I am thinking about changing my ISP.  At the moment I use the news
server belonging to my present ISP.  I use Forte Agent as newsreader.
If I change to another ISP is it guaranteed they will have a news
server, or are there independent news servers that I could use?

Any advice appreciated.

Scott

"Scott"  wrote in message 
news:3fhme59ebiq9vbm5lhga3vatof68jj2sfe@4ax.com...
>I am thinking about changing my ISP.  At the moment I use the news
> server belonging to my present ISP.  I use Forte Agent as newsreader.
> If I change to another ISP is it guaranteed they will have a news
> server, or are there independent news servers that I could use?
>
> Any advice appreciated.

Many ISPs don't have news-servers any more (if they ever had them at all).
Mine still does (Plusnet) but I also subscribe to the excellent German 
news-server, news.individual.net
http://www.individual.net/
Cost - 10 euros per year, very cheap.
And they have interfaces for Forte Agent, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, 
Opera - you name it, it's probably there.
Very quick service - new posts appear almost instantaneously.
It's run by the Free University of Berlin.

George

"George Weston"  wrote in message 
news:7l0vteF391rt8U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Scott"  wrote in message 
> news:3fhme59ebiq9vbm5lhga3vatof68jj2sfe@4ax.com...
>>I am thinking about changing my ISP.  At the moment I use the news
>> server belonging to my present ISP.  I use Forte Agent as newsreader.
>> If I change to another ISP is it guaranteed they will have a news
>> server, or are there independent news servers that I could use?
>>
>> Any advice appreciated.
>
> Many ISPs don't have news-servers any more (if they ever had them at all).
> Mine still does (Plusnet) but I also subscribe to the excellent German 
> news-server, news.individual.net
> http://www.individual.net/
> Cost - 10 euros per year, very cheap.
> And they have interfaces for Forte Agent, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, 
> Opera - you name it, it's probably there.
> Very quick service - new posts appear almost instantaneously.
> It's run by the Free University of Berlin.
>
>
There are free News Servers as well use Google to search, I'm using 
news.albasani.net and no problems.

-- 
Regards,
David

FREESAT HD  as it is now it is a joke.

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:16:38 -0000, "George Weston"
 wrote:
>"Scott"  wrote in message 
>news:3fhme59ebiq9vbm5lhga3vatof68jj2sfe@4ax.com...

>>I am thinking about changing my ISP.  At the moment I use the news
>>server belonging to my present ISP.  I use Forte Agent as newsreader.
>>If I change to another ISP is it guaranteed they will have a news
>>server, or are there independent news servers that I could use?

>Many ISPs don't have news-servers any more (if they ever had them at all).
>Mine still does (Plusnet) but I also subscribe to the excellent German 
>news-server, news.individual.net
>http://www.individual.net/
>Cost - 10 euros per year, very cheap.

And there are some free ones, too:

<http://www.eternal-september.org/>

<http://news.solani.org/>

<http://albasani.net/>

<http://www.aioe.org/> (no need to register, but does have several
restrictions).

Some Usenet providers also offer 'block accounts' that don't expire,
which can work out pretty cheap if you don't use Usenet much:

<http://www.astraweb.com/>

<http://www.usenet-news.net/>

Also, <http://www.simonews.com/> - block accounts expire after five
years.
-- 
Martin Jay

"Scott"  wrote in message news:3fhme59ebiq9vbm5lhga3vatof68jj2sfe@4ax.com...
>I am thinking about changing my ISP.  At the moment I use the news
> server belonging to my present ISP.  I use Forte Agent as newsreader.
> If I change to another ISP is it guaranteed they will have a news
> server, or are there independent news servers that I could use?
>
> Any advice appreciated.
>
> Scott
I use http://www.eternal-september.org/ it's free and reliable,
but in saying that the server was down at about 1800 last night :-(

-- 
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:16:38 -0000, "George Weston"
 wrote:

>
>"Scott"  wrote in message 
>news:3fhme59ebiq9vbm5lhga3vatof68jj2sfe@4ax.com...
>>I am thinking about changing my ISP.  At the moment I use the news
>> server belonging to my present ISP.  I use Forte Agent as newsreader.
>> If I change to another ISP is it guaranteed they will have a news
>> server, or are there independent news servers that I could use?
>>
>> Any advice appreciated.
>
>Many ISPs don't have news-servers any more (if they ever had them at all).
>Mine still does (Plusnet) but I also subscribe to the excellent German 
>news-server, news.individual.net
>http://www.individual.net/
>Cost - 10 euros per year, very cheap.
>And they have interfaces for Forte Agent, Outlook Express, Thunderbird, 
>Opera - you name it, it's probably there.
>Very quick service - new posts appear almost instantaneously.
>It's run by the Free University of Berlin.
>
>George 
>
This sounds good.  Without wanting to plough through 35,000
newsgroups, can I assume that all the mainstream groups will be
covered?  Obviously this group is or I would not be reading this!

"Scott"  wrote in message 
news:jiome5h0c3v4qhf0s4a49ge9seuj31r5mq@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:16:38 -0000, "George Weston"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Scott"  wrote in message
>>news:3fhme59ebiq9vbm5lhga3vatof68jj2sfe@4ax.com...
>>>I am thinking about changing my ISP.  At the moment I use the news
>>> server belonging to my present ISP.  I use Forte Agent as newsreader.
>>> If I change to another ISP is it guaranteed they will have a news
>>> server, or are there independent news servers that I could use?
>>>
>>> Any advice appreciated.
>>
>>Many ISPs don't have news-servers any more (if they ever had them at all).
>>Mine still does (Plusnet) but I also subscribe to the excellent German
>>news-server, news.individual.net
>>http://www.individual.net/
>>Cost - 10 euros per year, very cheap.
>>And they have interfaces for Forte Agent, Outlook Express, Thunderbird,
>>Opera - you name it, it's probably there.
>>Very quick service - new posts appear almost instantaneously.
>>It's run by the Free University of Berlin.
>>
>>George
>>
> This sounds good.  Without wanting to plough through 35,000
> newsgroups, can I assume that all the mainstream groups will be
> covered?  Obviously this group is or I would not be reading this!
>
There's no chance you could do your own research, is there?  You've had bags 
of help

John

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:28:25 -0000, "John Nice"
<johnDOTniceATbtinternetDOTcom> wrote:

>
>"Scott"  wrote in message 
>news:jiome5h0c3v4qhf0s4a49ge9seuj31r5mq@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:16:38 -0000, "George Weston"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Scott"  wrote in message
>>>news:3fhme59ebiq9vbm5lhga3vatof68jj2sfe@4ax.com...
>>>>I am thinking about changing my ISP.  At the moment I use the news
>>>> server belonging to my present ISP.  I use Forte Agent as newsreader.
>>>> If I change to another ISP is it guaranteed they will have a news
>>>> server, or are there independent news servers that I could use?
>>>>
>>>> Any advice appreciated.
>>>
>>>Many ISPs don't have news-servers any more (if they ever had them at all).
>>>Mine still does (Plusnet) but I also subscribe to the excellent German
>>>news-server, news.individual.net
>>>http://www.individual.net/
>>>Cost - 10 euros per year, very cheap.
>>>And they have interfaces for Forte Agent, Outlook Express, Thunderbird,
>>>Opera - you name it, it's probably there.
>>>Very quick service - new posts appear almost instantaneously.
>>>It's run by the Free University of Berlin.
>>>
>>>George
>>>
>> This sounds good.  Without wanting to plough through 35,000
>> newsgroups, can I assume that all the mainstream groups will be
>> covered?  Obviously this group is or I would not be reading this!
>>
>There's no chance you could do your own research, is there?  You've had bags 
>of help
>
Fair point.  I'll download the file tomorrow (apparently it is a large
file) and start going through it.  I am having problems with my
internet connection but I am sure it will be time well spent.

On 30/10/09 22:53, Scott wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:28:25 -0000, "John Nice"
> <johnDOTniceATbtinternetDOTcom>  wrote:
>
>>
>> "Scott"  wrote in message
>> news:jiome5h0c3v4qhf0s4a49ge9seuj31r5mq@4ax.com...

[snip]

>>>> Many ISPs don't have news-servers any more (if they ever had them at all).
>>>> Mine still does (Plusnet) but I also subscribe to the excellent German
>>>> news-server, news.individual.net
>>>> http://www.individual.net/
>>>> Cost - 10 euros per year, very cheap.
>>>> And they have interfaces for Forte Agent, Outlook Express, Thunderbird,
>>>> Opera - you name it, it's probably there.
>>>> Very quick service - new posts appear almost instantaneously.
>>>> It's run by the Free University of Berlin.
>>>>
>>>> George
>>>>
>>> This sounds good.  Without wanting to plough through 35,000
>>> newsgroups, can I assume that all the mainstream groups will be
>>> covered?  Obviously this group is or I would not be reading this!
>>>
>> There's no chance you could do your own research, is there?  You've had bags
>> of help
>>
> Fair point.  I'll download the file tomorrow (apparently it is a large
> file) and start going through it.  I am having problems with my
> internet connection but I am sure it will be time well spent.

One point with regard to news.individual.net is that they don't carry 
binary groups, which may or may not concern you.

I never use binaries so NiN suits my needs perfectly. They even upped my 
daily posting limit from 100 to 200 when I was involved in a 
particularly "heavy" discussion..!

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
> On 30/10/09 22:53, Scott wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 22:28:25 -0000, "John Nice"
>> <johnDOTniceATbtinternetDOTcom>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Scott"  wrote in message
>>> news:jiome5h0c3v4qhf0s4a49ge9seuj31r5mq@4ax.com...
>
> [snip]
>
>>>>> Many ISPs don't have news-servers any more (if they ever had them
>>>>> at all). Mine still does (Plusnet) but I also subscribe to the
>>>>> excellent German news-server, news.individual.net
>>>>> http://www.individual.net/
>>>>> Cost - 10 euros per year, very cheap.
>>>>> And they have interfaces for Forte Agent, Outlook Express,
>>>>> Thunderbird, Opera - you name it, it's probably there.
>>>>> Very quick service - new posts appear almost instantaneously.
>>>>> It's run by the Free University of Berlin.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> This sounds good.  Without wanting to plough through 35,000
>>>> newsgroups, can I assume that all the mainstream groups will be
>>>> covered?  Obviously this group is or I would not be reading this!
>>>>
> One point with regard to news.individual.net is that they don't carry
> binary groups, which may or may not concern you.
>
> I never use binaries so NiN suits my needs perfectly. They even upped
> my daily posting limit from 100 to 200 when I was involved in a
> particularly "heavy" discussion..!
>
I used to use it, didn't know there was a posting limited!

I stopped because there was a particularly convoluted way of paying the fee 
IIRC.

The Bt newsserver (not available free of course to outsiders) is slow ISTM, 
or it could be Outlook Express which is a useless newsreader!. But it 
contains all the groups I use.

In article , jasee 
 writes
>The Bt newsserver (not available free of course to outsiders) is slow ISTM,
>or it could be Outlook Express which is a useless newsreader!. But it
>contains all the groups I use.
>
>

I have used ....  freenews.netfront.net  since having to dump Tiscali 
and move to the dreadful mypostoffice.co.uk.....

freenews.netfront.net carries binaries and allows posting

FWIW

Rex in  Norwich
-- 
Rex J Atkins, AMIBE
E-Mail  herlikon@mypostoffice.co.uk

In message , jasee 
 writes

>The Bt newsserver (not available free of course to outsiders) is slow ISTM,

Since it was outsourced to Giganews there's a limit of 3 connections, 
with each connection rate limited to something around 64k.

>or it could be Outlook Express which is a useless newsreader!. But it
>contains all the groups I use.

Me too. I don't do binaries much, but for text groups, which is its main 
use for me, I find it excellent.
-- 
Ian

"Ian Cummings"  wrote in message 
news:pkiaZaI2eJ8KFwks@btinternet.com...
> In message , jasee 
>  writes
>
>>The Bt newsserver (not available free of course to outsiders) is slow 
>>ISTM,
>
> Since it was outsourced to Giganews there's a limit of 3 connections, with 
> each connection rate limited to something around 64k.
>
>>or it could be Outlook Express which is a useless newsreader!. But it
>>contains all the groups I use.
>
> Me too. I don't do binaries much, but for text groups, which is its main 
> use for me, I find it excellent.

Never used anything else.
OE works for me.

George

On 03/11/09 21:33, George Weston wrote:
> "Ian Cummings"  wrote in message
> news:pkiaZaI2eJ8KFwks@btinternet.com...
>> In message, jasee
>>   writes
>>
>>> The Bt newsserver (not available free of course to outsiders) is slow
>>> ISTM,
>>
>> Since it was outsourced to Giganews there's a limit of 3 connections, with
>> each connection rate limited to something around 64k.
>>
>>> or it could be Outlook Express which is a useless newsreader!. But it
>>> contains all the groups I use.
>>
>> Me too. I don't do binaries much, but for text groups, which is its main
>> use for me, I find it excellent.
>
> Never used anything else.
> OE works for me.

I used it until I dumped Windows in favour of Linux and was forced to 
look for an alternative. Thunderbird is to me far superior and far more 
configurable. Would never go back to OE now.

Ivor