On Thu, 08 Oct 2009 03:26:06 -0700, Aardvark wrote:

 >   The Ping-Pong Ball and The Sun.
 >
 >  [A mind experiment--Therefore, if
 >  you do not have a mind, forget it.]
 >
 > Imagine a magical ping-pong ball
 > which is only affected by gravity.
 > That is its only quality. (Therefore
 > it can travel inside the Sun without
 > being destroyed.) Now...
 >
 > This ping-pong ball is approaching
 > the surface of the Sun. As it does so
 > the pull of the Sun's gravity gradually
 > increases on the ping-pong ball.
 >
 >   [When it is at the Sun's surface,
 >   the pull of the Sun's gravity on
 >   the ping-pong ball will be at its
 >   maximum.]
 >
 > The instant the ping-pong ball plunges
 > past the surface of the Sun, the pull of
 > the Sun's gravity on the ping-pong ball
 > will begin to decrease.
 >
 >   [This is because as the ping-pong ball
 >   travels closer and closer to the center
 >   of the Sun: the mass pulling on the
 >   ping-pong ball is decreasing, all the time
 >   that there will be a growing amount of
 >   Sun-mass behind it pulling back on it.]
 >
 > Once the ping-pong ball reaches the center
 > of the Sun it will achieve gravity equilibrium
 > and lie forever suspended there (at the exact
 > center of a great hollow).
 >
 >      Conclusions from the above
 >          thought experiment:
 >
 > There is either a huge cavity at the center
 > of the Sun, or certainly a cavernous region
 > therein where there isn't as much Sun-
 > matter as there must be surrounding it.
 > According to the current laws of gravity.

This is nonsense!

Just because there is no gravity
as the center of the sun DOES NOT
mean that there is NO PRESSURE!

 > However, current theory says that the center
 > of the Sun (of every star) is the place where
 > the greatest amount of pressure exists. In
 > fact: It is at the center of every star that the
 > fusion that keeps a star "going" is taking
 > place--exactly because this is the region of
 > the highest amount of gravitational pressures!

Yessence!

 >  These are two self-excluding viewpoints:
 >
 > One of them can be correct while the other
 > one is not. But both of them cannot be
 > correct at the same time: Either gravity exists
 > AND the center of the Sun (of every star) is
 > hollow. Or fusion DOES indeed take place
 > at the center of the stars because the center
 > of every star is its region of maximun
 > pressure--and therefore the effect of
 > gravity is "somehow" negated/voided
 > inside the stars.                               *
 >
 > Which is it? SEE:
 >
 > http://physics.sdrodrian.com
 >
 > S D Rodrian
 > http://sdrodrian.com
 > http://physics.sdrodrian.com
 > http://mp3.sdrodrian.com
 >
 > * Of course, once The Great Thinkers
 > (who once thought the world was flat,
 > that the universe revolved around the
 > Earth, that Dark Matter and Dark Energy
 > explained the observable deficiencies
 > of gravity, that the entire universe
 > erupted from a magic bean, and that
 > it was constructed of vibrating strings
 > tuned into existence by unimaginably
 > tiny mathematicians)... once The Great
 > Thinkers think on this self-contradiction
 > awhile I'm sure they will be able to
 > come up with any number of their usual
 > outrageously reality-denying/logic-
 > twisting solutions to this puzzle.

Yes.

 > ... when they could just visit:
 > http://physics.sdrodrian.com
 >
 > And WHY have none of them even
 > thought about this self-contradiction
 > (when it's so impertinently obvious)...?
 >
 > Well, because we teach our so-called
 > Great Thinkers to learn by rote: "2times3
 > is33...2times4is104...4times5is55..."
 > and so on. And we not only require
 > that they do not challenge the validity
 > of what we are "teaching them" but
 > we actually demand that they accept it
 > all as The Indisputable Truth Eternal:

YES!

 > Can you imagine what would happen
 > if when the Great Professor is mumbling
 > "7times3is859..." to his class a student
 > were to get up and exclaim: "Professor,
 > you, sir, are an ignorant baboon: 7 X 3
 > is 21." Now: What grade do you believe
 > such a mere student would get? And
 > what student does not understand this?

They ALL do.

It's' the only way to get
to be a professor yourself.

I appreciate you understanding of
what passes for academic reality.

 > By the way: The dramatization above is
 > an exaggeration for purposes of illustration
 > only. [This disclaimer is always required
 > when addressing former students of all
 > such universities, I'm sorry to say. SDR]
 >
 > Ah! O well ...
 >
 > ******************************
 >
 > On Oct 8, 1:12 am, Virgil  wrote:
 >
 >> Newton proves a long time ago that the
 >> gravitational attraction at its
 >> center due to a body with radially symmetric
 >> mass distribution is always zero.
 >> Note that this is the case even though that
 >> mass distribution has mass at it center.
 >
 > Newton "conveniently" leaves out the
 > matter of "pressures" at that center, just
 > as exactly what gravity might be was
 > something he knew was beyond his field
 > of knowledge:

Yes.  Newton is the original "non fingo" kid.

He and Coulomb fucked everything up
for hundreds of years . . . already!

 > If you propose that there is ANY pressure
 > at all at the Sun's center, then you will
 > need to explain where such pressure
 > comes from... considering that the "left
 > inner wall surface" [of my proposed
 > hollow at the Sun's center] is under MORE
 > gravitational pull from the left wall than
 > from the right wall (on the other side of
 > that hollow): There may be as much mass
 > in the right wall as in the left wall, yes,
 > but the mass of the left wall is obviously
 > closer to the "left inner wall surface."

On the other hand, there is MORE
"right wall surface" pulling the
other way.  I think it all evens out.

 > You may stuff as much mass as you
 > like at the Sun's center--just explain
 > the mechanism which does the "stuffing."

That's elementary.

 > For what's the use of merely noting one
 > has spotted a phenomenon--without also
 > attempting to explain it, when explaining
 > phenomena is the highest aim of science.

Yessence!

 >   NOTE: Einstein's mind was of a clever
 >   but lazy nature, thereby (the moronic
 >   mathematical fudge factor so-called
 >   "cosmological constant"). You have
 >   to understand that relativity only
 >   describes gravity in the way it is seen
 >   to work; Einstein too never goes so far
 >   as to even try to explain by what means
 >   it might be working. And so it remains.
 >   [The so-called "graviton" is merely a
 >   theoretical proposal ... it is a physical
 >   impossibility, but it's the only thing
 >   they have--It is in Einstein's mind that
 >   it is a physical impossibility because it
 >   would require instantaneous action
 >   at impossible distances, a problem
 >   which itself drove Einstein to come up
 >   with gravity as a strictly geometrical
 >   description instead of a "real" (physical)
 >   solution as might be provided by a
 >   possible graviton. Like Newton, Einstein
 >   recognized that explaining what gravity
 >   actually was... was quite beyond his field
 >   of knowledge.]

YES!  Einstein was an IDIOT WANKER
who set physics back 100 YEARS!
We still have not recovered!

 > Today we can see the problems of lacking
 > a real/actual understanding of what gravity
 > actually is when everywhere we look gravity
 > seems to misbehave; The galaxies do not
 > behave as if they were perfectly observing
 > the laws of gravity (acording to which they
 > should all be flying apart).

???? How does the ATTRACTIVE FORCE of gravity
cause REPULSION to make things FLY APART ????


 >Not to mention
 > the problem of the Sun & the Ping-Pong ball.

No problem at all!

 > *******************************
 >
 > On Oct 7, 11:07 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
 >> Aardvark wrote:
 >> > Once the ping-pong ball reaches the center
 >> > of the Sun it will achieve gravity equilibrium
 >> > and lie forever suspended there (at the exact
 >> > center of a great hollow).
 >>
 >> You must have assumed friction on your
 >> magic ping-pong ball.

So there is no oscillation about the center?

 > Actually no: I imagined that, according to
 > Newton, once it reached the exact center
 > of the Sun it struck an identical ping-pong
 > ball coming at it with the same force (where
 > they both magically combined into a single
 > bigger ping-pong ball). I'm used to dealing
 > with these questions: When I told my little
 > nephew the story of Pinocchio he seemed
 > much more interested in knowing WHY the
 > toy-maker had made him with a bellows-
 > mechanism for talking; How did he know
 > Pinocchio was going to be doing any talking!
 >
 >>  This next paragraph is without merit.
 >
 > Gee, I wonder why--
 >
 >> > According to the current laws of gravity.
 >
 >>    Nope.
 >
 > Any particular reason why not?
 >
 >>> In fact: It is at the center of every star that the
 >> > fusion that keeps a star "going" is taking
 >> > place--exactly because this is the region of
 >> > the highest amount of gravitational pressures!

 >> Because the temperature pressure and density
 >> are high enough for fusion reactions to take place.
 >
 > You seem to know this. And yet it eludes you
 > that my post is all about challenging you to tell me
 > where that "high enough" pressure is coming from!
 >
 > *************************************
 >
 > On Oct 8, 12:12 am, johnreed wrote:
 >
 >> The ping pong ball cannot be. And if it were
 >> the pressure of the mass it has penetrated
 >> will crush it not attract it.
 >
 > It is a magic ping-pong ball. You missed that
 > didn't you!
 >
 >> Have a good time. johnreed
 >
 > Man! You have no idea!
 >
 > ********************************
 >
 > On Oct 8, 2:41 am, "AndyW" wrote:
 >
 >> ... were the heck did the big hollow
 >> come from???
 >
 > There's always one in every crowd. This
 > is why I'd rather shoot myself in the foot
 > than teach!
 >
 > ***************************
 >
 > On Oct 8, 3:11 am, "Peter Webb" wrote:
 > SDR wrote:
 >>>  [When it is at the Sun's surface,
 >>>  the pull of the Sun's gravity on
 >>>  the ping-pong ball will be at its
 >>>  maximum.]
 >>> The instant the ping-pong ball plunges
 >>> past the surface of the Sun, the pull of
 >>> the Sun's gravity on the ping-pong ball
 >>> will begin to decrease.

Yes, that's true.

 >> It is always true if the body has constant
 >> density, but the Sun doesn't.
 >
 > Another Pinocchio explanation required.
 >
 > You also missed the fact that the highest
 > gravitational pull "down" is NOT at the
 > surface of a sphere but a little bit up from
 > it (since at the surface part of that pull
 > will be defrayed from the sphere's sides).

Nonsense.  The sun's sides are pulling too.

 > *********************************
 >
 > On Oct 7, 11:42 pm, "Androcles" wrote:
 >
 >> Define "surface" of a plasma density gradient.
 >
 > Sure: Soon as yer notice a change in that density.
 >
 >> Define "surface" of a plasma density gradient.
 >
 > Sure: Soon as yer notice a change in that density.
 >
 >> >  [This is because as the ping-pong ball
 >> >  travels closer and closer to the center
 >> >  of the Sun: the mass pulling on the
 >> >  ping-pong ball is decreasing, all the time
 >> >  that there will be a growing amount of
 >> >  Sun-mass behind it pulling back on it.]

Yes.

 >> No it won't. This is because the density gradient
 >> is non-homogeneous.

????

 > Yes it is, if I so command it: This being a
 > thought experiment of mine, I can make of it
 > anything I wish. Even a giraffe. Live with it.
 >
 >> Oh... I thought you said there was a fuckin'
 >> ping pong ball there...
 >
 > Read my post again: It's about this ping-pong
 > ball slowly making its way there. Albeit, I
 > don't recall saying it started having sex once
 > it got there: You made that part up.
 >
 >> Make up your non-existent mind.
 >
 > I made it up: Now it exists! That was easy.
 >
 >> ... any hollow magic ping pong ball will
 >> be crushed.
 >
 > Not if my magic is strong enough. And
 > I have VERY nice thoughts--My magic is
 > therefore unstoppable! [Frankly, I don't
 > believe you've quite grasped the concept
 > of "magic."]
 >
 >> ...  magic ping pong balls
 >> don't even make it to the bottom
 >> of my kitchen sink, they FLOAT.
 >
 > I take it you have spent a lot of time
 > plunging magic ping-pong balls into your
 > sink then: May I suggest a girl-friend.
 > She'll smack you up the side of yer head:
 > Fix'ya right up.
 >
 > All right now, I knew this is where I'd
 > eventually end up: Listen up! Once there
 > was a toy maker named Geppetto ...
 >
 > S D Rodrian
 > http://sdrodrian.com
 > http://physics.sdrodrian.com
 > http://mp3.sdrodrian.com
 >

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