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date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:54:00 -0500,    group: uk.sci.astronomy        back       
Ot heartbreak   
The following was forwarded to me by my son-in-law and as a dad and 
grandfather I cannot help myself I am forwarding this every way I 
can...please take a little time to help make this brave young girls wish 
come true beyond even her dream....David




Riley Philpot is a 9 year old little girl who has been battling a rare form 
of cancer since she was 6.  Her cancer has returned and she is currently in 
the hospital.  Make A Wish Foundation was contacted and Riley's wish was not 
a trip to Disney World.  It is to have the mailman dump a bag of "a million" 
Get Well cards at her door when she returns!!  Please take the time to send 
a Get Well card to Riley.  Thank you so much!  You do not have to know this 
little girl to make this wish come true.  If this was your child, and a 
simple wish like this was asked, a stamp is not much.  I hope that you smile 
as you drop it in the mail.  Please forward this to anyone who you think 
will help this dream come true.  I do not know when she will return from the 
hospital, but let's attempt to have your card in the mail by October 16th.



Here is her name and address:

Riley Philpot

206 Slaney Loop Road

Winterville, NC 28590



And please keep her in your prayers as well.
date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:54:00 -0500   author:   David Staup

Re: Ot heartbreak   
On Oct 14, 7:54 pm, "David Staup"  wrote:
> The following was forwarded to me by my son-in-law and as a dad and
> grandfather I cannot help myself I am forwarding this every way I
> can...please take a little time to help make this brave young girls wish
> come true beyond even her dream....David

I am reporting this as spam. A similar begging letter is running in a
parallel thread.
date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 04:16:59 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Chris.B

Re: Ot heartbreak   
"Chris.B"  wrote in message 
news:d48a1d68-89df-46a3-96d6-1b855a205d59@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 14, 7:54 pm, "David Staup"  wrote:
> The following was forwarded to me by my son-in-law and as a dad and
> grandfather I cannot help myself I am forwarding this every way I
> can...please take a little time to help make this brave young girls wish
> come true beyond even her dream....David

I am reporting this as spam. A similar begging letter is running in a
parallel thread.

wow I am just amazed at the rancor and hate this has caused.

let me tell you a short story... in 99 or 2000 I spent a month in Scotland 
with 2 other americans (Business) one weekend we traveled to Glasgow for 
some clubbing (bar hopping). there were people on the streets with cans for 
donations for kids charities and each time I was approached I dropped a 
couple of bucks worth into the can while the others with me, Scots included, 
were saying "already gave". after several tins had been added to by me one 
of the group asked "why do you give each time" my answer was only this...." 
it's for the kids"
I have absolutely no guilt in this "spamming" if that's what you want to 
think it is because ....It's for a kid ... so blow it out your ass
date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 09:42:16 -0500   author:   David Staup

Re: Ot heartbreak   
David Staup  wrote
>"Chris.B"  wrote in message 
>news:d48a1d68-89df-46a3-96d6-1b855a205d59@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>On Oct 14, 7:54 pm, "David Staup"  wrote:
>> The following was forwarded to me by my son-in-law and as a dad and
>> grandfather I cannot help myself I am forwarding this every way I
>> can...please take a little time to help make this brave young girls wish
>> come true beyond even her dream....David
>
>I am reporting this as spam. A similar begging letter is running in a
>parallel thread.
>
>wow I am just amazed at the rancor and hate this has caused.
>
What?
>let me tell you a short story... in 99 or 2000 I spent a month in Scotland 
>with 2 other americans (Business) one weekend we traveled to Glasgow for 
>some clubbing (bar hopping). there were people on the streets with cans for 
>donations for kids charities and each time I was approached I dropped a 
>couple of bucks worth into the can while the others with me, Scots included, 
>were saying "already gave". after several tins had been added to by me one 
>of the group asked "why do you give each time" my answer was only this...." 
>it's for the kids"
>I have absolutely no guilt in this "spamming" if that's what you want to 
>think it is because ....It's for a kid ... so blow it out your ass
>
You appear to confuse practical help with sentimentality.
I do volunteer work for a local community charity and give 10-15 hours 
a week of my time, but they don't get any money off me, not even the
poor little kids.
I'm a heartless bastard aren't I? 
-- 
Roger Hunt
date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:25:57 +0100   author:   Roger Hunt

Re: Ot heartbreak   
David Staup wrote:
> "Chris.B"  wrote in message 
> news:d48a1d68-89df-46a3-96d6-1b855a205d59@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>On Oct 14, 7:54 pm, "David Staup"  wrote:
>>> The following was forwarded to me by my son-in-law and as a dad and
>>> grandfather I cannot help myself I am forwarding this every way I
>>> can...please take a little time to help make this brave young girls wish
>>> come true beyond even her dream....David
> 
>> I am reporting this as spam. A similar begging letter is running in a
>> parallel thread.
> 
> wow I am just amazed at the rancor and hate this has caused.

I'm amazed at the number of people that think this is a real story.

Its a viral email thats been going around for literally decades. It gets 
updated periodically so that the age, illness, gender, location etc of 
the subject fit in with some current ongoing issue. I've even seen 
versions in print-form. Please don't fall for it.

> let me tell you a short story... 

let me augment it

> couple of bucks worth into the can while the others with me, Scots included, 
> were saying "already gave".

I give regularly through my payroll. The recipients benefit from a 
pretax donation, and my company doubles it, benefiting them even more.

> it's for the kids"

So the collectors alleged. They would however have been far better to 
hand out Gift-aid forms and ask donors to give a quid a month via GAYE.

> I have absolutely no guilt in this "spamming" if that's what you want to 
> think it is because ....It's for a kid ... 

Unfortunately, its not.
date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:02:56 +0100   author:   Mark McIntyre

Re: Ot heartbreak   
"Mark McIntyre"  wrote in message 
news:Cr3Cm.58440$Gs.18392@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com...
> David Staup wrote:
>> "Chris.B"  wrote in message 
>> news:d48a1d68-89df-46a3-96d6-1b855a205d59@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>>On Oct 14, 7:54 pm, "David Staup"  wrote:
>>>> The following was forwarded to me by my son-in-law and as a dad and
>>>> grandfather I cannot help myself I am forwarding this every way I
>>>> can...please take a little time to help make this brave young girls 
>>>> wish
>>>> come true beyond even her dream....David
>>
>>> I am reporting this as spam. A similar begging letter is running in a
>>> parallel thread.
>>
>> wow I am just amazed at the rancor and hate this has caused.
>
> I'm amazed at the number of people that think this is a real story.
>
> Its a viral email thats been going around for literally decades. It gets 
> updated periodically so that the age, illness, gender, location etc of the 
> subject fit in with some current ongoing issue. I've even seen versions in 
> print-form. Please don't fall for it.
>
>> let me tell you a short story...
>
> let me augment it
>
>> couple of bucks worth into the can while the others with me, Scots 
>> included, were saying "already gave".
>
> I give regularly through my payroll. The recipients benefit from a pretax 
> donation, and my company doubles it, benefiting them even more.
>
>> it's for the kids"
>
> So the collectors alleged. They would however have been far better to hand 
> out Gift-aid forms and ask donors to give a quid a month via GAYE.
>
>> I have absolutely no guilt in this "spamming" if that's what you want to 
>> think it is because ....It's for a kid ...
>
> Unfortunately, its not.

The original request came through my son in law from a fraternity brother he 
knows and who is one of the young ladies doctors...you are of course allowed 
to believe what you want... but I ask YOU why would there not have been a 
request for a donation if this was anything more than as presented ???

it must truley suck to see the world through your eyes  You have my sympathy 
and pity

I sent a card and personally feel good about ... and even if I later find it 
IS a scam will still feel better for having made a very small sacrafice in 
the hope of brightening a childs life.
date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:55:59 -0500   author:   David Staup

Re: Ot heartbreak   
"Roger Hunt"  wrote in message 
news:gJptXWAFCJ2KFw3Q@nospam.demon.co.uk...
> David Staup  wrote
>>"Chris.B"  wrote in message
>>news:d48a1d68-89df-46a3-96d6-1b855a205d59@v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>>On Oct 14, 7:54 pm, "David Staup"  wrote:
>>> The following was forwarded to me by my son-in-law and as a dad and
>>> grandfather I cannot help myself I am forwarding this every way I
>>> can...please take a little time to help make this brave young girls wish
>>> come true beyond even her dream....David
>>
>>I am reporting this as spam. A similar begging letter is running in a
>>parallel thread.
>>
>>wow I am just amazed at the rancor and hate this has caused.
>>
> What?
>>let me tell you a short story... in 99 or 2000 I spent a month in Scotland
>>with 2 other americans (Business) one weekend we traveled to Glasgow for
>>some clubbing (bar hopping). there were people on the streets with cans 
>>for
>>donations for kids charities and each time I was approached I dropped a
>>couple of bucks worth into the can while the others with me, Scots 
>>included,
>>were saying "already gave". after several tins had been added to by me one
>>of the group asked "why do you give each time" my answer was only 
>>this...."
>>it's for the kids"
>>I have absolutely no guilt in this "spamming" if that's what you want to
>>think it is because ....It's for a kid ... so blow it out your ass
>>
> You appear to confuse practical help with sentimentality.
> I do volunteer work for a local community charity and give 10-15 hours
> a week of my time, but they don't get any money off me, not even the
> poor little kids.
> I'm a heartless bastard aren't I?
> -- 
> Roger Hunt

Roger,
> I'm a heartless bastard aren't I?

of course not... giving of ones time is more of a commitment and shows just 
the opposite... My wife and I gave approximately 100 hours per month before 
I was disabled and also donated through payroll deductions.  I understand 
others might not be able to give as much ...giving is a personal choice 
...tis only those who can and don't that I would consider heartless

my only question is this...do you do your volunteer work because you're 
sentimental or because you enjoy helping???

help comes in many forms and sometimes it's only a small sentimental gesture 
that helps the most.

what is with you people?   jeeze

sorry that's actually two questions
date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 16:02:14 -0500   author:   David Staup

Re: Ot heartbreak   
David Staup wrote:
> The original request came through my son in law from a fraternity brother he 
> knows and who is one of the young ladies doctors...you are of course allowed 
> to believe what you want... 

I'm sorry to remain cynical but the request is quite often said to come 
from a friend of a friend who knows someone who saw it, thats part of 
the cleverness.

I suggest you read this page:
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/jasmine-thomas-charity-hoax.html
and this one
http://www.hoax-slayer.com/search.php?zoom_query=donated

 > but I ask YOU why would there not have been a
 > request for a donation if this was anything more than as presented ???

You don't understand the concept of a viral email. The purpose is simply 
to pollute the email system with billions of messages forwarded with 
good intentions. Another common one is fake warnings about some sort of 
scam.

> it must truley suck to see the world through your eyes  You have my sympathy 
> and pity

I suggest you visit a taxidermist.
date: Fri, 16 Oct 2009 22:55:58 +0100   author:   Mark McIntyre

Re: Ot heartbreak   
David,

You protest too much.

Get off your high horse and drink your milk.

Next time a beggar tries to con some money out of you, do the decent
thing.

Go into a baker and buy them a roll or a bun.

I hope you survive the experience!  :-)
date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 23:39:51 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Chris.B

Re: Ot heartbreak   
"Chris.B"  wrote in message 
news:7fa6156d-de90-4453-98bc-934de6e21452@p36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> David,
>
> You protest too much.
>
> Get off your high horse and drink your milk.
>
> Next time a beggar tries to con some money out of you, do the decent
> thing.
>
> Go into a baker and buy them a roll or a bun.
>
> I hope you survive the experience!  :-)


you are of course allowed to believe what you want...
date: Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:58:03 -0500   author:   David Staup

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