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date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:18:27 -0000,    group: uk.philosophy.atheism        back       
Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
Anyone ever noticed the way reality fails to penetrate the 'Daily 
Telegraph'? Foaming Catholic rent-boy Damian Thompson says -- in his usual 
whining and inflammatory manner -- that Richard Dawkins "calls the 
[Catholic] Church 'the greatest force for evil in the world'".

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100014886/richard-dawkinss-latest-attack-on-the-catholic-church-is-vicious-and-crazy-the-man-needs-help/

And, of course, when you check the source, you find that Dawkins doesn't...

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/richard_dawkins/2009/10/give_us_your_misogynists_and_bigots.html

Dawkins actually poses the question: "What major institution most deserves 
the title of greatest force for evil in the world?", and gives the following 
answer: "In a field of stiff competition, the Roman Catholic Church is 
surely up there among the leaders". You may not appreciate, or perceive, the 
difference, Damian Thompson, but it's real nevertheless. And it marks you 
out as *filth*... and your editors, too -- since they are the ones who allow 
this shit to appear...

SF.
date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:18:27 -0000   author:   Skill Fragments Skill

Re: Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:18:27 -0000, "Skill Fragments" <Skill
Fragments@ech.co.uk> wrote:

>Anyone ever noticed the way reality fails to penetrate the 'Daily 
>Telegraph'? Foaming Catholic rent-boy Damian Thompson says -- in his usual 
>whining and inflammatory manner -- that Richard Dawkins "calls the 
>[Catholic] Church 'the greatest force for evil in the world'".
>
>http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100014886/richard-dawkinss-latest-attack-on-the-catholic-church-is-vicious-and-crazy-the-man-needs-help/
>
>And, of course, when you check the source, you find that Dawkins doesn't...
>
>http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/richard_dawkins/2009/10/give_us_your_misogynists_and_bigots.html
>
>Dawkins actually poses the question: "What major institution most deserves 
>the title of greatest force for evil in the world?", and gives the following 
>answer: "In a field of stiff competition, the Roman Catholic Church is 
>surely up there among the leaders".

No can be.  The RCC and it's inherents are totally of love for one another as
God loves us.

Dawkins was an ass, and anyone who believes that crap is an asshole.

The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:07:22 -0500   author:   duke

Re: Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
duke wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:18:27 -0000, "Skill Fragments" <Skill
> Fragments@ech.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone ever noticed the way reality fails to penetrate the 'Daily 
>> Telegraph'? Foaming Catholic rent-boy Damian Thompson says -- in his usual 
>> whining and inflammatory manner -- that Richard Dawkins "calls the 
>> [Catholic] Church 'the greatest force for evil in the world'".
>>
>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100014886/richard-dawkinss-latest-attack-on-the-catholic-church-is-vicious-and-crazy-the-man-needs-help/
>>
>> And, of course, when you check the source, you find that Dawkins doesn't...
>>
>> http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/richard_dawkins/2009/10/give_us_your_misogynists_and_bigots.html
>>
>> Dawkins actually poses the question: "What major institution most deserves 
>> the title of greatest force for evil in the world?", and gives the following 
>> answer: "In a field of stiff competition, the Roman Catholic Church is 
>> surely up there among the leaders".
> 
> No can be.  The RCC and it's inherents are totally of love for one another as
> God loves us.
> 
> Dawkins was an ass, and anyone who believes that crap is an asshole.
> 
> The Dukester, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****

... and religion is the perfect from of superstition.

regards, Ian
date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:46:07 +0000   author:   Ian Smith

Re: Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
> duke wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:18:27 -0000, "Skill Fragments" <Skill
>> Fragments@ech.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone ever noticed the way reality fails to penetrate the 'Daily
>>> Telegraph'? Foaming Catholic rent-boy Damian Thompson says -- in
>>> his usual whining and inflammatory manner -- that Richard Dawkins
>>> "calls the [Catholic] Church 'the greatest force for evil in the
>>> world'". 
>>> http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100014886/richard-dawkinss-latest-attack-on-the-catholic-church-is-vicious-and-crazy-the-man-needs-help/
>>>
>>> And, of course, when you check the source, you find that Dawkins
>>> doesn't... 
>>> http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/richard_dawkins/2009/10/give_us_your_misogynists_and_bigots.html
>>>
>>> Dawkins actually poses the question: "What major institution most
>>> deserves the title of greatest force for evil in the world?", and
>>> gives the following answer: "In a field of stiff competition, the
>>> Roman Catholic Church is surely up there among the leaders".
>>
>> No can be.  The RCC and it's inherents are totally of love for one
>> another as God loves us.
>>
>> Dawkins was an ass, and anyone who believes that crap is an asshole.

Dawkins writes:
"The RC Church really does teach the dotty notion of transubstantiation, it 
really does teach that only men, not women, are capable of performing the 
trick, it really does tell lies about the alleged inefficacy of condoms to 
prevent the spread of AIDS, it really does promote prejudice against 
homosexuals, and it really does cover up the crime of sexually molesting 
children. If any apologist wishes to deny any of these factual claims, let 
them do so. Simply to hurl abuse at me is not good enough. Deny the charges 
or shut up."

Heh!

http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/richard_dawkins/2009/10/give_us_your_misogynists_and_bigots.html

SF.
date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:52:51 -0000   author:   Skill Fragments Skill

Re: Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
From platitudes.org.uk


"Smelly poos with knobs on to Richard Dawkins. He's a complete loony. I, on 
the other hand am a Catholic, with the following perfectly sensible beliefs.
1. Everything requires an explanation, including the observable universe.
2. The observable universe was created by an unobservable Invisible Magic 
Friend. This explains the observable universe.
3. The Invisible Magic Friend has existed for all eternity and therefore 
requires no explanation. This is entirely consistent with point 1.
4. The Invisible Magic Friend comes in three lumps: Father, Son and mum Holy 
Ghost.
5. There is an Invisible Magic Baddy called the Devil, who's constantly 
tempting people to do bad things and stop being Catholics.
5. Every baby is born a sinner, stained with the sin of Eve, who ate a piece 
of fruit on the command of the Devil, then disguised as a talking snake.
6. The Invisible Magic Friend revealed himself to a bunch of Middle Eastern 
Semitic tribes starting about 700 B.C.E. All the other gods of the Persians, 
Romans, Egyptians, Greeks, Norse and Indian were just made up. Only the god 
of Abraham is the real Invisible Magic Friend.
7. We were all condemned to eternal damnation by the all loving Invisible 
Magic Friend because of the talking snake incident and it's too good for us 
if you ask me.
8. The Invisible Magic Friend sent an Invisible Magic Messenger, with 
invisible magic white wings, called Gabriel to tell a young woman in 
Palestine that she was pregnant thanks to the third lump of the Invisible 
Magic Friend who had impregnated her with the extra chromosomes needed to 
conceive, and the child would be called Emmanuel, so she called him Jesus.
9. Mary's fiancé, Joseph was a bit miffed at Mary being pregnant and having 
to remain a virgin for the rest of her life, but she explained about the 
third lump of the Invisible Magic Friend so he married her anyway.
10. Jesus did all sorts of amazing things: turning water into wine, walking 
on water, redoing the Elisha feeding thousands trick, spitting on people to 
cure them, transforming into something, raising from the dead.
11. Jesus got a bit too uppity so the Romans crucified him.
12. Two days later, he rose from the dead in accordance with the prophecy 
that he'd rise three days later.
13. Jesus' death was actually a sacrifice of the second lump of the 
Invisible Magic Friend to all three lumps of the Invisible Magic Friend. 
This sacrifice was adequate compensation for the talking snake affair and 
you now only had to spend eternity in agony if, on average, you aren't 
terribly nice while you inhabit the observable universe or until recently, 
you weren't a Catholic.
14. Before going up into the sky on a cloud, Jesus said, "Peter, I'm leaving 
you in charge of the observable universe. Here are some magic powers."
15. Peter went to Rome and gave his magic powers to lots of other people.
16. Only people with external genitalia can have magic powers (obviously).
17. The magic powers consist of: turning ordinary water into magic water, 
turning ordinary oil into magic oil, forgiving people's sins by saying three 
Hail Marys as an alternative to eternal damnation, turning bread and wine 
into the flesh and blood of the second lump of the Invisible Magic Friend, 
consuming him, thus recreating the original sacrifice 2,000 years ago, and 
in the case of being top priest, being infallible. All this, is best done in 
the language of the Roman Empire.
18. Deliberately not having as many children as possible is a sin, unless 
you're one of the men with magic powers who mustn't ever touch anything 
hairy, wobbly or dangly, or even think about touching anything hairy, wobbly 
or dangly.
19. Having sex for fun is a sin.
20. When men with magic powers are discovered buggering altar boys, the 
appropriate action is to move them where there are some new boys and make 
the victims promise never to tell anyone because it was all their fault 
anyway, the little teasers. This turns you from just being Most Reverend 
into being Eminent.
21. Poofs are an inherent moral evil and a greater danger to the planet than 
global warming.
Thank the Invisible Magic Friend I'm not one of those dribbling loonies like 
Richard Dawkins."

-----

SF.
date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:00:39 -0000   author:   Skill Fragments Skill

Re: Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:52:51 +0000, Skill Fragments wrote:
<snip>
> Heh!
> 
> http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/richard_dawkins/2009/10/
give_us_your_misogynists_and_bigots.html
> 
> SF.

Nice find!
date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:08:24 -0500   author:   polymer

Re: Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
"duke"  wrote in message 
news:pbfje5lda6q457ilooidrev5o43uo52cf4@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 01:18:27 -0000, "Skill Fragments" <Skill
> Fragments@ech.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Anyone ever noticed the way reality fails to penetrate the 'Daily
>>Telegraph'? Foaming Catholic rent-boy Damian Thompson says -- in his usual
>>whining and inflammatory manner -- that Richard Dawkins "calls the
>>[Catholic] Church 'the greatest force for evil in the world'".
>>
>>http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100014886/richard-dawkinss-latest-attack-on-the-catholic-church-is-vicious-and-crazy-the-man-needs-help/
>>
>>And, of course, when you check the source, you find that Dawkins 
>>doesn't...
>>
>>http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/richard_dawkins/2009/10/give_us_your_misogynists_and_bigots.html
>>
>>Dawkins actually poses the question: "What major institution most deserves
>>the title of greatest force for evil in the world?", and gives the 
>>following
>>answer: "In a field of stiff competition, the Roman Catholic Church is
>>surely up there among the leaders".
>
> No can be.  The RCC and it's inherents are totally of love for one another 
> as
> God loves us.

And that is why the Catholic priests make love to little boys!

>Dawkins was an ass, and anyone who believes that crap is an asshole.

Why are Catholics such dirty mouthed ranters?
Apparently you can't handle science and logic!

> The Dukester, American-American
> *****
> "The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
> Pope Paul VI
> *****
date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:16:02 -0000   author:   Bill M

Re: Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
polymer wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:52:51 +0000, Skill Fragments wrote:
> <snip>
>
> Nice find!

I actually think that people should save the following -- and post it in 
response to every message that our resident witless drivelling gobshite Duke 
sends here...

"The RC Church really does teach the dotty notion of transubstantiation, it
really does teach that only men, not women, are capable of performing the
trick, it really does tell lies about the alleged inefficacy of condoms to
prevent the spread of AIDS, it really does promote prejudice against
homosexuals, and it really does cover up the crime of sexually molesting
children. If any apologist wishes to deny any of these factual claims, let
them do so. Simply to hurl abuse ... is not good enough. Deny the charges
or shut up."

Do people wanna keep a copy on their desktop ready for Pukey-boy's next 
post...?

SF.
date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:16:48 -0000   author:   Skill Fragments Skill

Re: Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
On Oct 29, 9:07 am, duke  wrote the usual X-tian
crapola

 The Pukester, a true AmeriKKKan-AmeriKKKan
date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:44:40 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Ken

Re: Yet again: a Catholic *makes shit up* about Dawkins...   
On 29 Oct, 17:07, duke  wrote:

> No can be.  The RCC and it's inherents are totally of love for one another as
> God loves us.

That's just spin. The church has protected it's paedophile priests or
do you count their actions as love too?

Throughout history the church has  been responsible for numerous
abuses from murder and torture through to falsely accusing musicians
of playing devil's music.

The Catholic church can't hide behind the pretense that it loves
people and then go round giving lists of all the people it doesn't
like.

> Dawkins was an ass, and anyone who believes that crap is an asshole.

Dawkins is shows that the church does not live up to its PA. He shows
behind the curtain. He doesn't tell anyone what to believe in  but
presents the argument and lets people decide. He's far too considerate
to organised religion who love to put words in his mouth as this has
shown again.
date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:07:57 -0700 (PDT)   author:   sdm_sax

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