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date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:31:27 +0100,    group: uk.gov.social-security        back       
New Deal For Musicians   
Interesting ! What's next?
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Jobseekers/programmesandservices/DG_173732

New Deal for musicians can help musicians and composers get into
careers in all types of music, whether self-employed or working under
a contract.
New Deal for musicians

New Deal for musicians is part of the compulsory Jobcentre Plus New
Deal programme for people who are claiming Jobseeker’s Allowance. It
has the full support of the music industry; you'll be able to speak to
people who work in the industry and get:

    * advice on your chances of succeeding in the music industry
    * support in using music industry open-learning materials

How it works

To take part in New Deal for musicians, you must be taking part in New
Deal 25 plus or New Deal for young people, and at the end of the
'gateway' stage.

You should discuss joining New Deal for musicians with your Jobcentre
Plus personal adviser if you:

    * are already a musician or composer
    * have music qualifications
    * have already worked in the music industry
    * live in an area with few or no music facilities

You must also be serious about a career in music and you must have
some experience as an instrumentalist, singer, song writer or
composer, or DJ.

You could be into any kind of music such as jazz, folk, classical,
rock, pop, dance, blues, country and western, opera, rap, brass band
and indie/alternative. You may be looking for work as a solo artist or
in a band, chamber group or orchestra.
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date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:31:27 +0100   author:   mogga

Re: New Deal For Musicians   
mogga wrote:
> Interesting ! What's next?
> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Jobseekers/programmesandservices/DG_173732
> 
> New Deal for musicians can help musicians and composers get into
> careers in all types of music, whether self-employed or working under
> a contract.
> New Deal for musicians
> 
> New Deal for musicians is part of the compulsory Jobcentre Plus New
> Deal programme for people who are claiming Jobseeker’s Allowance. It
> has the full support of the music industry; you'll be able to speak to
> people who work in the industry and get:
> 
>     * advice on your chances of succeeding in the music industry
>     * support in using music industry open-learning materials
> 
> How it works
> 
> To take part in New Deal for musicians, you must be taking part in New
> Deal 25 plus or New Deal for young people, and at the end of the
> 'gateway' stage.
> 
> You should discuss joining New Deal for musicians with your Jobcentre
> Plus personal adviser if you:
> 
>     * are already a musician or composer
>     * have music qualifications
>     * have already worked in the music industry
>     * live in an area with few or no music facilities
> 
> You must also be serious about a career in music and you must have
> some experience as an instrumentalist, singer, song writer or
> composer, or DJ.
> 
> You could be into any kind of music such as jazz, folk, classical,
> rock, pop, dance, blues, country and western, opera, rap, brass band
> and indie/alternative. You may be looking for work as a solo artist or
> in a band, chamber group or orchestra.

It's been around for a few years but it's due to come to an end this 
month with the introduction of the flexible New Deal.

http://www.nme.com/news/the-zutons/43489
date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:21:18 +0100   author:   Robbie

Re: New Deal For Musicians   
Robbie wrote:
> mogga wrote:
>> Interesting ! What's next?
>> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Jobseekers/programmesandservices/DG_173732 
>>
>>
>> New Deal for musicians can help musicians and composers get into
>> careers in all types of music, whether self-employed or working under
>> a contract.
>> New Deal for musicians
>>
>> New Deal for musicians is part of the compulsory Jobcentre Plus New
>> Deal programme for people who are claiming Jobseeker’s Allowance. It
>> has the full support of the music industry; you'll be able to speak to
>> people who work in the industry and get:
>>
>>     * advice on your chances of succeeding in the music industry
>>     * support in using music industry open-learning materials
>>
>> How it works
>>
>> To take part in New Deal for musicians, you must be taking part in New
>> Deal 25 plus or New Deal for young people, and at the end of the
>> 'gateway' stage.
>>
>> You should discuss joining New Deal for musicians with your Jobcentre
>> Plus personal adviser if you:
>>
>>     * are already a musician or composer
>>     * have music qualifications
>>     * have already worked in the music industry
>>     * live in an area with few or no music facilities
>>
>> You must also be serious about a career in music and you must have
>> some experience as an instrumentalist, singer, song writer or
>> composer, or DJ.
>>
>> You could be into any kind of music such as jazz, folk, classical,
>> rock, pop, dance, blues, country and western, opera, rap, brass band
>> and indie/alternative. You may be looking for work as a solo artist or
>> in a band, chamber group or orchestra.
> 
> It's been around for a few years but it's due to come to an end this 
> month with the introduction of the flexible New Deal.
> 
> http://www.nme.com/news/the-zutons/43489

I thought the gov had privatised this with the x-factor?

Mike
date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:04:03 +0100   author:   Mike

Re: New Deal For Musicians   
On 5 Oct, 08:04, Mike 
wrote:
> Robbie wrote:
> > mogga wrote:
> >> Interesting ! What's next?
> >>http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Jobseekers/programmesandservic..> >> New Deal for musicians can help musicians and composers get into
> >> careers in all types of music, whether self-employed or working under
> >> a contract.
> >> New Deal for musicians
>
> >> New Deal for musicians is part of the compulsory Jobcentre Plus New
> >> Deal programme for people who are claiming Jobseeker’s Allowance. It
> >> has the full support of the music industry; you'll be able to speak to
> >> people who work in the industry and get:
>
> >>     * advice on your chances of succeeding in the music industry
> >>     * support in using music industry open-learning materials
>
> >> How it works
>
> >> To take part in New Deal for musicians, you must be taking part in New
> >> Deal 25 plus or New Deal for young people, and at the end of the
> >> 'gateway' stage.
>
> >> You should discuss joining New Deal for musicians with your Jobcentre
> >> Plus personal adviser if you:
>
> >>     * are already a musician or composer
> >>     * have music qualifications
> >>     * have already worked in the music industry
> >>     * live in an area with few or no music facilities
>
> >> You must also be serious about a career in music and you must have
> >> some experience as an instrumentalist, singer, song writer or
> >> composer, or DJ.
>
> >> You could be into any kind of music such as jazz, folk, classical,
> >> rock, pop, dance, blues, country and western, opera, rap, brass band
> >> and indie/alternative. You may be looking for work as a solo artist or
> >> in a band, chamber group or orchestra.
>
> > It's been around for a few years but it's due to come to an end this
> > month with the introduction of the flexible New Deal.
>
> >http://www.nme.com/news/the-zutons/43489
>
> I thought the gov had privatised this with the x-factor?
>
> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Its sort of a pre-X-factor thing. I recall that many areas had
qualifying music shops where parents could buy their children (or
themselves) musical instruments at 0% interest under a government
scheme.

Martin  <><
date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 00:47:08 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: New Deal For Musicians   
"Robbie"  wrote in message >
> It's been around for a few years but it's due to come to an end this month 
> with the introduction of the flexible New Deal.
>

Could this mean they are going to moderate their approach, actually give the 
claimant some say in what type of work s/he wants to do. I think New Deal is 
to blame in part for the mass unemployment we have now, that and 
immigration.
date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 13:20:38 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: New Deal For Musicians   
On 5 Oct, 13:20, "Niteawk"  wrote:
> "Robbie"  wrote in message >
> > It's been around for a few years but it's due to come to an end this month
> > with the introduction of the flexible New Deal.
>
> Could this mean they are going to moderate their approach, actually give the
> claimant some say in what type of work s/he wants to do. I think New Deal is
> to blame in part for the mass unemployment we have now, that and
> immigration.

Flexible new deal gives the claimant less say in what type of work.
There is a bit more flexibility in the training by providers and
payment is a bit different too.
Flexible new deal also covers more areas and more people.
Oh, and if Cameron scraps it as he's suggested he would, there'll be
contract end payments too. Contract size of at least 5 years that I
know of, could get expensive.

Martin  <><
date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 06:16:09 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: New Deal For Musicians   
wrote in message 
news:a9d9d061-c2bf-4fb2-88bc-777532f1bd9c@p15g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
> On 5 Oct, 13:20, "Niteawk"  wrote:
>> "Robbie"  wrote in message >
>> > It's been around for a few years but it's due to come to an end this 
>> > month
>> > with the introduction of the flexible New Deal.
>>
>> Could this mean they are going to moderate their approach, actually give 
>> the
>> claimant some say in what type of work s/he wants to do. I think New Deal 
>> is
>> to blame in part for the mass unemployment we have now, that and
>> immigration.
>
> Flexible new deal gives the claimant less say in what type of work.
> There is a bit more flexibility in the training by providers and
> payment is a bit different too.

This is what pisses me off with the government, another word the bastards 
have taken from the English language to bastardise, so now flexible means 
inflexible, shower of cunts or what.

> Flexible new deal also covers more areas and more people.
> Oh, and if Cameron scraps it as he's suggested he would, there'll be
> contract end payments too. Contract size of at least 5 years that I
> know of, could get expensive.
>

Dont worry, any draconian measures they have in place to screw the 
unemployed, they will keep them. I dont believe for one minute he will do 
anything to change the current system, if anything he will add to by sending 
the sick to attend your mindless CV courses. Making the likes of A4e even 
richer.
date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 15:29:16 +0100   author:   Niteawk

Re: New Deal For Musicians   
mart2306@hotmail.com wrote:
> On 5 Oct, 08:04, Mike 
> wrote:
>> Robbie wrote:
>>> mogga wrote:
>>>> Interesting ! What's next?
>>>> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/Jobseekers/programmesandservic...
>>>> New Deal for musicians can help musicians and composers get into
>>>> careers in all types of music, whether self-employed or working under
>>>> a contract.
>>>> New Deal for musicians
>>>> New Deal for musicians is part of the compulsory Jobcentre Plus New
>>>> Deal programme for people who are claiming Jobseeker’s Allowance. It
>>>> has the full support of the music industry; you'll be able to speak to
>>>> people who work in the industry and get:
>>>>     * advice on your chances of succeeding in the music industry
>>>>     * support in using music industry open-learning materials
>>>> How it works
>>>> To take part in New Deal for musicians, you must be taking part in New
>>>> Deal 25 plus or New Deal for young people, and at the end of the
>>>> 'gateway' stage.
>>>> You should discuss joining New Deal for musicians with your Jobcentre
>>>> Plus personal adviser if you:
>>>>     * are already a musician or composer
>>>>     * have music qualifications
>>>>     * have already worked in the music industry
>>>>     * live in an area with few or no music facilities
>>>> You must also be serious about a career in music and you must have
>>>> some experience as an instrumentalist, singer, song writer or
>>>> composer, or DJ.
>>>> You could be into any kind of music such as jazz, folk, classical,
>>>> rock, pop, dance, blues, country and western, opera, rap, brass band
>>>> and indie/alternative. You may be looking for work as a solo artist or
>>>> in a band, chamber group or orchestra.
>>> It's been around for a few years but it's due to come to an end this
>>> month with the introduction of the flexible New Deal.
>>> http://www.nme.com/news/the-zutons/43489
>> I thought the gov had privatised this with the x-factor?
>>
>> Mike- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
> 
> Its sort of a pre-X-factor thing. I recall that many areas had
> qualifying music shops where parents could buy their children (or
> themselves) musical instruments at 0% interest under a government
> scheme.
> 
> Martin  <><

And 8 mths later they were all gathering dust ....

Mike
date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:19:32 +0100   author:   Mike

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