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date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:54:07 GMT,    group: uk.rec.fishing.game        back       
Between the two Big Faeries   
I had managed to finish work early, which meant I wouldn't be walking 
in the dark. It didn't work that way, a two car pile up on the 
Kingston Bridge put paid to that.

I finally arrived at White Cairn farm and walked up the path, past the 
Duck Loch to the end of the Sandy Loch, in the area between the two 
Big Faeries, to where Bob (bordertroot) was camped beneath the Bare 
Hill of the Roaring Stags.

Is that too cryptic for you? OK then.

I arrived at Finchairn farm on Loch Awe side, parked the car, geared 
up and started the walk up the track. Through the first gate, turn 
right, through the next and take the track leading off to the left, 
easy enough except I took the wrong track that soon disappeared so it 
was across country in the gathering gloom until I found the right 
track. There is nothing like a bit of fun to start a trip. The track 
meandered here and there, up and down, with some parts under water. In 
the dark I didn't know how deep these areas were so it was up the 
banking and by-pass them. Eventually, with the aid of the GPS and the 
co-ordinates given to me by Bob, I found where I had to leave the path 
and cut across the moor to the campsite. By this time I was saturated 
in sweat, tired and looking forward to sleep. I put on the head torch; 
I hadn't needed it until now as it was easy following the track, and 
set off into the unknown. Following what I thought was a path, with 
the GPS and the map for comfort, I eventually came to a small, deep, 
stream with no apparent crossing point that I could see in the dark. 
The GPS was showing the campsite just on the far side so I walked, 
staggered would be a better description, for a bit upstream but the 
ground was flat so the river stayed the same width and depth. It was 
back down to the start and see if I could get across at the loch. Six 
feet from where I was standing, I found the crossing, over I went and 
up the mound on the far side and down to the loch shore where I would 
find Bob. I found a boat but no tent, I swung my head from right to 
left but all I was getting was reflection from the mist that was lying 
everywhere by now. I shouted into the gloom, "Bob!!!", nothing, I 
shouted twice more, "Hellooooo!!!!". My voice echoed back to me from 
some distant hill, still no Bob. I zoomed the GPS in, the campsite was 
showing up just to my left, three paces, something like a black hump 
showed up on the edge of the point, a flash at the back and a few 
steps nearer, and I had found the tent, and not a sound. Half an hour 
later my tent was up, I was in the sleeping bag and trying to get to 
sleep with the adrenaline still pumping through my system. It was past 
midnight.

Saturday 24th July

So to the fishing. Bob woke me at seven thirty, not that I hadn't 
already been awake, I am always awake with the first light of a new 
day. The sleeping bag hood soon puts paid to that and I soon fall 
asleep again.

I dressed and got out of the tent to a pleasant morning and an even 
pleasanter introduction to Bob, bordertroot from the Wild Fishing 
Forum. We sat and ate breakfast chatting and getting to know each 
other as we had never met before.

I left the route decision to Bob as this was his territory and I had 
never fished the area. We walked back across the swamp I had 
negotiated last night, keeping to the higher ground where the ground 
was drier, and reached the track. We turned left and started to climb 
steeply stopping briefly to watch a group of three anglers crossing 
the moor towards our tents. The three of them, two men and what 
appeared to be a woman, carried on past and our minds were a little 
easier. We carried on and, over the rise, we came to our first loch, 
Loch a'Chaorainn. Cutting down and across we fished the bank nearest 
us. The weather was sunny with a light breeze; water temperature was 
16ºC and air 20ºC when we started. I missed two fish, one to the Iron 
Blue #12 on the middle dropper and one to the Dry Fly #14 on the bob. 
This was only my second outing this year so reactions were slow. 
Finally, I got one all of two inches on the Iron Blue, then one of 4oz 
on the HillLoch Nymph on the point, which I had to retrieve with the 
forceps as it had taken it well in. I had seen nothing rising except 
for the ones to my flies as I carried on down the bank. Then it 
happened, the Dry Fly disappeared in a splash, I lifted the rod and I 
knew right away that this was a good, if not very good fish. I let it 
run a few times and it bored under the rod bending it right over. Bob 
came down for a look as I pulled a brown trout of 1¼lbs into the 
shore. Picture taken he was duly released.

Reaching the end of the loch we studied the map before setting off for 
our next destination, Loch na Creige Maolaich. After following a deer 
path we found one going up hill and, after a stiff climb, came to the 
loch at its outflow. To the left was sheer cliff but to the right a 
point and decent banks for fishing. Bob decided to have a few casts in 
the shallow bay and I moved round to the point. With the breeze coming 
from the left I fished out and down the bank moving a few yards or so 
after a few casts in the one area. A fish slashed at the Iron Blue 
just under the surface. I felt its weight, then nothing. A small 
indentation to my right was the area for my next cast and as soon as 
the flies touched the water it exploded under the flies. Two fish, 
both about 4oz, latched onto the Dry Fly and the Iron Blue. I played 
them into the shore beside me but the one on the Dry Fly slipped off. 
After trying to get a picture of the second one, it wouldn't stay at 
peace, I released it too. We fished on round the loch but I never 
touched another fish.

Our third and final loch for the day was Loch Cam. It was a shorter 
climb this time, although it didn't feel any easier. The loch at this 
point is split into two arms. The one we took, to the left, was the 
shallower weedy one, but it didn't produce any fish for me.

That was that. The sun was dropping and we had a couple of miles to 
trek back to the tents and supper. We found a deer path and followed 
it back to the track and then it was an easier stroll down the hill on 
the track we had climbed earlier that day. We chatted over supper then 
we both headed for our tents and sleep. I was exhausted.

Bob was up bright and early next morning, which is more than can be 
said for the weather, from four o'clock it had been sheeting down with 
strong winds to accompany it. As he was heading out early, and had the 
farthest distance to go, we said our farewells clad in waterproofs. It 
was a pleasure meeting and fishing with him and I hope we can do it 
again sometime.

I had breakfast; packed the tent and rucksack; checked the area for 
missed rubbish and left. The little stream by this time was an 
embryonic river. The stepping-stones were under six inches of water. 
After a bit of a sprauchle I managed to get across with just a slight 
dampness round the cuff of one boot. I now headed back down the path I 
had walked up in the dark. It was flowing with water and I half 
expected to pass some salmon migrating to their spawning beds. The 
bits I had to walk round were now even fuller with water, and deep. 
Now that it was daylight I could see the path I should have come up on 
Friday night and was soon at the car.

Writing this at the computer I don't know which part of me aches the 
most feet, legs or shoulders. The company was excellent as was the 
fishing, but I think it needs a week to do it justice. Maybe next 
time.


-- 


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      Sandy
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date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 20:54:07 GMT   author:   Sandy Birrell

Re: Between the two Big Faeries   
In article <PzJbm.61671$OO7.30938@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Sandy Birrell
<URL:mailto:news@ftscotland.co.uk> wrote:

Nice story, how bad are the midges this year?

> Writing this at the computer I don't know which part of me aches the 
> most feet, legs or shoulders.

I've not been bothering the trout much this season but I have been doing some
long pre-dawn walks along the coast in order to get a lure out at first light
for the bass.  Those rocks leave an awful lot of bruises in the dark and the
slippery ones cause other strains.  Iow I know how you feel ;-)

>                               The company was excellent as was the 
> fishing, but I think it needs a week to do it justice. Maybe next 
> time.

Ah, the next one: always the best trip.

Cheerio,

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date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 14:32:53 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Between the two Big Faeries   
In message <PzJbm.61671$OO7.30938@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Sandy 
Birrell  writes
>I had managed to finish work early, which meant I wouldn't be walking 
>in the dark. It didn't work that way, a two car pile up on the Kingston 
>Bridge put paid to that.
>
>I finally arrived at White Cairn farm and walked up the path, past the 
>Duck Loch to the end of the Sandy Loch, in the area between the two Big 
>Faeries, to where Bob (bordertroot) was camped beneath the Bare Hill of 
>the Roaring Stags.

< Excellent trip report snipped>

Sandy - you deserved a great few days after that effort.

Well done
-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 20:49:20 +0100   author:   Bill Grey

Re: Between the two Big Faeries   
Bill Grey wrote:
> In message <PzJbm.61671$OO7.30938@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Sandy
> Birrell  writes
> > I had managed to finish work early, which meant I wouldn't be
> > walking in the dark. It didn't work that way, a two car pile up
> > on the Kingston Bridge put paid to that.
> > 
> > I finally arrived at White Cairn farm and walked up the path,
> > past the Duck Loch to the end of the Sandy Loch, in the area
> > between the two Big Faeries, to where Bob (bordertroot) was
> > camped beneath the Bare Hill of the Roaring Stags.
> 
> < Excellent trip report snipped>
> 
> Sandy - you deserved a great few days after that effort.
> 
> Well done


I've put some pictures up on my website of this trip.

http://www.ftscotland.co.uk/gallery/ederline/ederline.html

-- 


Don`t Worry, Be Happy

      Sandy
-- 

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date: Fri, 21 Aug 2009 20:50:11 GMT   author:   Sandy Birrell

Re: Between the two Big Faeries   
In message <7MDjm.70514$OO7.48942@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Sandy 
Birrell  writes
>>  Sandy - you deserved a great few days after that effort.
>>  Well done
>
>
>I've put some pictures up on my website of this trip.
>
>http://www.ftscotland.co.uk/gallery/ederline/ederline.html
>
>--

Ederline certainly looks like a remote location with what must be truly 
wild brownies.

I take issue with your taking photos of the caught fish  even though you 
returned them.  There are differing schools of thought regarding the 
release of brown trout.  I feel they should, if possible, never leave 
the water if they are to be released.

I have been told by someone very knowledgeable on the matter, that trout 
suffer for being out of the water for more than - say- 15 seconds!

Anyway, thanks for letting us share your pohotographs.
-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 10:43:40 +0100   author:   Bill Grey

Re: Between the two Big Faeries   
In article , Bill Grey
<URL:mailto:wdg@graigroad.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> I take issue with your taking photos of the caught fish  even though you 
> returned them.  There are differing schools of thought regarding the 
> release of brown trout.  I feel they should, if possible, never leave 
> the water if they are to be released.

Ideally, maybe, but brownies are tougher than most fish.  I've caught
identifiable fish several times over several months at least, without signs
of deterioration, and a couple of times I've taken one twice on the same
day.

In coarse fishing on ponds some fish are caught many times over with little
detectable injury.

Otoh some fish -are- very susceptible to handling damage - apparently
mackerel almost never survive being touched which is why the specimens in
sealife aquariums always look so poorly.

At a guess, the looser the scales and the softer the slime the more likely a
fish is to suffer physical damage. Brownies are usually well jacketed
whilst seatrout of the same size are decidedly fragile.

And grayling, if handled correctly, are nowhere near as likely to die as
everyone claims.

> I have been told by someone very knowledgeable on the matter, that trout 
> suffer for being out of the water for more than - say- 15 seconds!

> Anyway, thanks for letting us share your pohotographs.

Aol.

Cheerio,

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date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:24:00 +0100   author:   Derek Moody

Re: Between the two Big Faeries   
"Bill Grey"  wrote in message 
news:GFAxeZBM37jKFwab@graigroad.demon.co.uk...
> In message <7MDjm.70514$OO7.48942@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Sandy 
> Birrell  writes
>>>  Sandy - you deserved a great few days after that effort.
>>>  Well done
>>
>>
>>I've put some pictures up on my website of this trip.
>>
>>http://www.ftscotland.co.uk/gallery/ederline/ederline.html
>>
>>--
>
> Ederline certainly looks like a remote location with what must be 
> truly wild brownies.
>
> I take issue with your taking photos of the caught fish  even though 
> you returned them.  There are differing schools of thought regarding 
> the release of brown trout.  I feel they should, if possible, never 
> leave the water if they are to be released.
>
> I have been told by someone very knowledgeable on the matter, that 
> trout suffer for being out of the water for more than - say- 15 
> seconds!
>
> Anyway, thanks for letting us share your pohotographs.
> -- 
> Bill Grey
>


The majority of fish never come out of the water Bill. I pull them 
into a shallow spot where I can picture them then I grab the hook and 
release them, I fish barbless. If I do lift them out they are only 
pictured then released in as short a time as I can manage. There have 
only been a few times that I have had to hold fish in the water to 
recover before letting them swim away. Anytime I have a problem 
getting a picture and it is taking too long I forget it and just 
release the fish.

Most fish can survive a time out of water and be returned successfully 
as long as their gills are kept damp and their skin isn't allowed to 
dry out. How else are hatcheries able to strip fish year after year if 
they die every time  :)


-- 


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      Sandy
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date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 08:58:27 GMT   author:   Sandy Birrell

Re: Between the two Big Faeries   
In message <Tw7km.70972$OO7.56969@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Sandy 
Birrell  writes
>
>The majority of fish never come out of the water Bill. I pull them into 
>a shallow spot where I can picture them then I grab the hook and 
>release them, I fish barbless. If I do lift them out they are only 
>pictured then released in as short a time as I can manage. There have 
>only been a few times that I have had to hold fish in the water to 
>recover before letting them swim away. Anytime I have a problem getting 
>a picture and it is taking too long I forget it and just release the fish.

Glad to hear it Sandy, though the two photos in your gallery do show the 
fish out of the water even if the tails are still in. It's obvious 
you've tried to do the decent thing:-)
>
>Most fish can survive a time out of water and be returned successfully 
>as long as their gills are kept damp and their skin isn't allowed to 
>dry out. How else are hatcheries able to strip fish year after year if 
>they die every time  :)

I won't argue the point, as I said, I was given my information by a well 
informed person and I respect his opinion.
-- 
Bill Grey
date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 16:23:44 +0100   author:   Bill Grey

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