On Nov 6, 3:41 pm, Bill Baka  wrote:
> dgk wrote:
> > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:33:36 -0600, "Edward Dolan" 
> > wrote:
>
> >> "Bill Baka"  wrote in message
> >>news:hctlr8$g7v$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> >>> Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>>> Bush will go down in history as a heroic president who began the war on
> >>>> Islamic extremism.
> >>> You are a flipping fruitcake if you buy into that. I'm losing any respect
> >>> for you on this Republican rant.
>
> >>> We shall soon see what kind of mess Obama is going to
> >>>> make of Afghanistan and Pakistan. He is going to bungle Iran too. It is
> >>>> what happens when you elect a man-child to the presidency.
> >>> Enough bullshit, Ed. Kennedy was only 43 when he got elected and he did OK
> >>> until Dallas. It was either a CIA motivated solution to him and Marilyn
> >>> Monroe or a well oiled job set up by LBJ, the one president I really
> >>> hated, party not withstanding.
> >> JFK, just like Obama, was too young and inexperienced to be president. He
> >> essentially bungled our relations with the Soviet Union and handled the
> >> Cuban invasion like an idiot. He should have supported the exiles with air
> >> power which would have made all the difference. He also got us into Vietnam
> >> with no idea of how to win the war. People in their 40s, at least in this
> >> country, are still babies. You have to be at least in your 50s in order to
> >> have any sense. In fact, I like our presidents to be in their 60s.
>
> > Before the Bay of Pigs, Russia was faced with Cuba being continuously
> > attacked by the US, and our nuclear missles were on their border. So
> > they moved missles into Cuba. After the resulting hysteria, we
> > promised to stop sending terrorists into Cuba, and took our missles
> > off Russia's border. You would have done what differently? Started a
> > nuclear war? That's a very likely outcome if we had sent planes into
> > Cuba.
>
> I followed it on the TV news after school or play time.
>
>
>
> > Perhaps Castro was not the best leader for Cuba, but since we were
> > responsible for Batista, that sort of nullfies our moral capital in
> > the matter. Just like being responsible for the Shah undermines any
> > moral objection we may have for Iran's current government.
>
> I think we should have helped Batista and kept the communists out, and
> then sent some people down there to see what we could do, shadow
> government or whatever.
>
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> > I believe JFK was killed to prevent him from withdrawing from Vietnam.
>
> I know that LBJ was the dimwit that decided to make it a full blown yet
> limited joke of a war.
>
> > We did, of course, start the whole war to PREVENT free unifying
> > elections from taking place as required by the 1954 Geneva Convention.
> > We, of course, being so dedicated to democracy, refused to sign those
> > accords because they promised free elections. Ho Chi Minh would have
> > won overwhelmingly.
>
> Politics off.
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They used to be enemies but now they need each other. To break with
the status quo is always hard and unpredictable.

That's why we can't have a real revolution here. But hey, we can have
in Cuba!

Any Banana Republic for that matter.