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date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:43:51 +0100,    group: uk.legal        back       
Re: 1 in 5 teachers are 'child abusers'.   
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:25:48 GMT, Palindrome  wrote:

>Mike wrote:
><snip>
>> To repeat a question I posed earlier - Should a female teacher be
>> allowed to cane a boy?  What, in either case, if the cane were applied
>> to the hands?  I like to know your opinion on this.
>> 
>
>Were this country to adopt social mores that found the beating children 
>at school acceptable, I would bother to consider whether it mattered 
>what sex inflicted it on what sex. But I consider the possibility of 
>that happening about the same as mothers being able to take their 
>daughters to the local NHS clinic for a bit of FGM.
>
>One solution could be to allow the child to nominate the member of 
>staff, from a list of the willing. It is, after all, their body.

Or, since caning was quite rare, it mainly being a deterrent, you
could have a roving "Pierrepoint" type of character, who would travel
up and down the country caning to order. That would be fairer, since
every miscreant of either gender would receive the same degree of
punishment and it could be very tightly controlled.

MM
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:43:51 +0100   author:   MM

Re: 1 in 5 teachers are 'child abusers'.   
MM wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:25:48 GMT, Palindrome  wrote:
> 
>> Mike wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> To repeat a question I posed earlier - Should a female teacher be
>>> allowed to cane a boy?  What, in either case, if the cane were applied
>>> to the hands?  I like to know your opinion on this.
>>>
>> Were this country to adopt social mores that found the beating children 
>> at school acceptable, I would bother to consider whether it mattered 
>> what sex inflicted it on what sex. But I consider the possibility of 
>> that happening about the same as mothers being able to take their 
>> daughters to the local NHS clinic for a bit of FGM.
>>
>> One solution could be to allow the child to nominate the member of 
>> staff, from a list of the willing. It is, after all, their body.
> 
> Or, since caning was quite rare, it mainly being a deterrent, you
> could have a roving "Pierrepoint" type of character, who would travel
> up and down the country caning to order. That would be fairer, since
> every miscreant of either gender would receive the same degree of
> punishment and it could be very tightly controlled.
> 
Presumably a deaf and blind one, so that he couldn't be influenced by 
factors such as the sex, colour, race, etc of the culprit. They could 
even have a "test bum" machine inserted into his schedule at random, to 
check consistency..

Does it have to be a human administering the punishment? Why not use a 
tazer? Just keep applying it until the kid wets themself, just to be fair..

--
Sue
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:01:46 GMT   author:   Palindrome

Re: 1 in 5 teachers are 'child abusers'.   
"MM"  wrote in message 
news:2tmue490os764507c04k5kh6phrvr1unrq@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:25:48 GMT, Palindrome  wrote:
>
>>Mike wrote:
>><snip>
>>> To repeat a question I posed earlier - Should a female teacher be
>>> allowed to cane a boy?  What, in either case, if the cane were applied
>>> to the hands?  I like to know your opinion on this.
>>>
>>
>>Were this country to adopt social mores that found the beating children
>>at school acceptable, I would bother to consider whether it mattered
>>what sex inflicted it on what sex. But I consider the possibility of
>>that happening about the same as mothers being able to take their
>>daughters to the local NHS clinic for a bit of FGM.
>>
>>One solution could be to allow the child to nominate the member of
>>staff, from a list of the willing. It is, after all, their body.
>
> Or, since caning was quite rare, it mainly being a deterrent, you
> could have a roving "Pierrepoint" type of character, who would travel
> up and down the country caning to order. That would be fairer, since
> every miscreant of either gender would receive the same degree of
> punishment and it could be very tightly controlled.

And one big advantage of creating such a post is that there would be many 
candidates who would pay 50k a year or more for the privilege of doing the 
job - in fact, the creation of several posts of that nature per local 
authority would make a big difference to the school budget.
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:09:57 +0100   author:   The Todal

Re: 1 in 5 teachers are 'child abusers'.   
The Todal wrote:
> "MM"  wrote in message 
> news:2tmue490os764507c04k5kh6phrvr1unrq@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:25:48 GMT, Palindrome  wrote:
>>
>>> Mike wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>> To repeat a question I posed earlier - Should a female teacher be
>>>> allowed to cane a boy?  What, in either case, if the cane were applied
>>>> to the hands?  I like to know your opinion on this.
>>>>
>>> Were this country to adopt social mores that found the beating children
>>> at school acceptable, I would bother to consider whether it mattered
>>> what sex inflicted it on what sex. But I consider the possibility of
>>> that happening about the same as mothers being able to take their
>>> daughters to the local NHS clinic for a bit of FGM.
>>>
>>> One solution could be to allow the child to nominate the member of
>>> staff, from a list of the willing. It is, after all, their body.
>> Or, since caning was quite rare, it mainly being a deterrent, you
>> could have a roving "Pierrepoint" type of character, who would travel
>> up and down the country caning to order. That would be fairer, since
>> every miscreant of either gender would receive the same degree of
>> punishment and it could be very tightly controlled.
> 
> And one big advantage of creating such a post is that there would be many 
> candidates who would pay 50k a year or more for the privilege of doing the 
> job - in fact, the creation of several posts of that nature per local 
> authority would make a big difference to the school budget. 
> 
> 
I think that you are missing the potential tourist income.. ;)

--
Sue
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:12:03 GMT   author:   Palindrome

Re: 1 in 5 teachers are 'child abusers'.   
"Palindrome"  wrote in message 
news:ToJHk.57183$h94.35230@fe12.news.easynews.com...
> The Todal wrote:
>> "MM"  wrote in message 
>> news:2tmue490os764507c04k5kh6phrvr1unrq@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:25:48 GMT, Palindrome  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike wrote:
>>>> <snip>
>>>>> To repeat a question I posed earlier - Should a female teacher be
>>>>> allowed to cane a boy?  What, in either case, if the cane were applied
>>>>> to the hands?  I like to know your opinion on this.
>>>>>
>>>> Were this country to adopt social mores that found the beating children
>>>> at school acceptable, I would bother to consider whether it mattered
>>>> what sex inflicted it on what sex. But I consider the possibility of
>>>> that happening about the same as mothers being able to take their
>>>> daughters to the local NHS clinic for a bit of FGM.
>>>>
>>>> One solution could be to allow the child to nominate the member of
>>>> staff, from a list of the willing. It is, after all, their body.
>>> Or, since caning was quite rare, it mainly being a deterrent, you
>>> could have a roving "Pierrepoint" type of character, who would travel
>>> up and down the country caning to order. That would be fairer, since
>>> every miscreant of either gender would receive the same degree of
>>> punishment and it could be very tightly controlled.
>>
>> And one big advantage of creating such a post is that there would be many 
>> candidates who would pay 50k a year or more for the privilege of doing 
>> the job - in fact, the creation of several posts of that nature per local 
>> authority would make a big difference to the school budget.
> I think that you are missing the potential tourist income.. ;)
>
As long as the caners and audiance are CRB checked. :-)


In case they drive steam engines.
date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:15:43 +0100   author:   mert1639

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