Policeman charged over death
A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:13:30 +0100
author: Diddly Doo
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Re: Policeman charged over death
"Diddly Doo" wrote in message news:gbqd8u$uar$1@aioe.org...
>A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
>driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>
> Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
How can 'back-stage wrangling' affect a jury's decision?
Ret.
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:57:51 +0100
author: Ret.
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Re: Policeman charged over death
On 29 Sep, 12:57, "Ret." wrote:
> "Diddly Doo" wrote in messagenews:gbqd8u$uar$1@aioe.org...
> >A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
> >driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>
> > Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
>
> How can 'back-stage wrangling' affect a jury's decision?
>
Because the charge will be frigged, and the judge will direct the jury
that they can't consider this that and the other when reaching their
verdict, the prosecution won't try very hard, and the defence will be
given every accomodation.
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:38:07 -0700 (PDT)
author: Jethro
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Re: Policeman charged over death
Ret. wrote:
>
> "Diddly Doo" wrote in message
> news:gbqd8u$uar$1@aioe.org...
>> A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
>> driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>>
>> Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
>
> How can 'back-stage wrangling' affect a jury's decision?
>
Haven't you heard of "Jury Knobbling"?
Alternatively, the CPS could drop the case due to (undisclosed)
technical reasons.
--
Mike
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:38:30 +0000
author: Mike
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Re: Policeman charged over death
"Mike" wrote in message
news:48e0cc48$0$515$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
> Ret. wrote:
>>
>> "Diddly Doo" wrote in message
>> news:gbqd8u$uar$1@aioe.org...
>>> A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
>>> driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>>>
>>> Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
>>
>> How can 'back-stage wrangling' affect a jury's decision?
>>
> Haven't you heard of "Jury Knobbling"?
>
> Alternatively, the CPS could drop the case due to (undisclosed)
> technical reasons.
>
> --
> Mike
>
Not in the public interest or no evidence presented due to the lack of it.
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:50:29 +0100
author: Airmax
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Re: Policeman charged over death
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:38:30 +0000, Mike
wrote:
>Ret. wrote:
>>
>> "Diddly Doo" wrote in message
>> news:gbqd8u$uar$1@aioe.org...
>>> A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
>>> driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>>>
>>> Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
>>
>> How can 'back-stage wrangling' affect a jury's decision?
>>
>Haven't you heard of "Jury Knobbling"?
>
>Alternatively, the CPS could drop the case due to (undisclosed)
>technical reasons.
At least someone is starting to take notice of the carnage due to
police pursuits, which this vehicle had been engaged in.
MM
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:04:54 +0100
author: MM
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Re: Policeman charged over death
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:57:51 +0100, "Ret." wrote:
>
>"Diddly Doo" wrote in message news:gbqd8u$uar$1@aioe.org...
>>A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
>>driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>>
>> Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
>
>How can 'back-stage wrangling' affect a jury's decision?
>
What evidence is permitted to be introduced and a judge's direction
and summing up can all have a bearing on a jury verdict. I hope that
doesn't happen but after a similar case a few years ago I don't hold
out much hope.
I recall a comment at the time that the constable in that case was
charged with the most serious possible offence because it was more
likely he would get off. A risky tactic but more difficult to prove so
more likely to lead to an acquittal. Which is what happened. There is
no doubt he killed a man. There is no doubt he was speeding even
though he had been ordered not to. The jury refused to convict on
causing death by dangerous driving and were not offered a lesser
offence.
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:22:57 +0100
author: Alang
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Re: Policeman charged over death
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:13:30 +0100, Diddly Doo wrote:
>A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
>driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>
>Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>
Or more likely the guilty verdict, as in several other cases.
--
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date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:01:40 +0100
author: Alex Heney
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Re: Policeman charged over death
"Airmax" wrote in message
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> "Mike" wrote in message
> news:48e0cc48$0$515$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
>> Ret. wrote:
>>>
>>> "Diddly Doo" wrote in message
>>> news:gbqd8u$uar$1@aioe.org...
>>>> A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
>>>> driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>>>>
>>>> Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
>>>
>>> How can 'back-stage wrangling' affect a jury's decision?
>>>
>> Haven't you heard of "Jury Knobbling"?
>>
>> Alternatively, the CPS could drop the case due to (undisclosed)
>> technical reasons.
>>
>> --
>> Mike
>>
>
> Not in the public interest or no evidence presented due to the lack of it.
What lack of evidence ?
Fortunately therehere were a number of eyewitnesses.
--
Joe Lee
>
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:45:47 +0100
author: Joe Lee invalid@noaddress
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Re: Policeman charged over death
"Joe Lee" <invalid@noaddress> wrote in message
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> "Airmax" wrote in message
> news:u4mdncUXWt6yQH3VnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "Mike" wrote in message
>> news:48e0cc48$0$515$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
>>> Ret. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Diddly Doo" wrote in message
>>>> news:gbqd8u$uar$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
>>>>> driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
>>>>
>>>> How can 'back-stage wrangling' affect a jury's decision?
>>>>
>>> Haven't you heard of "Jury Knobbling"?
>>>
>>> Alternatively, the CPS could drop the case due to (undisclosed)
>>> technical reasons.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike
>>>
>>
>> Not in the public interest or no evidence presented due to the lack of
>> it.
>
> What lack of evidence ?
> Fortunately therehere were a number of eyewitnesses.
>
> --
> Joe Lee
>>
There were number of eyewitnesses to the shooting of seven bullets to the
head on the tube also.
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:48:02 +0100
author: Airmax
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Re: Policeman charged over death
"Airmax" wrote in message
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> "Joe Lee" <invalid@noaddress> wrote in message
> news:48e15aa7$0$26079$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>>
>> "Airmax" wrote in message
>> news:u4mdncUXWt6yQH3VnZ2dnUVZ8svinZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>> "Mike" wrote in message
>>> news:48e0cc48$0$515$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
>>>> Ret. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Diddly Doo" wrote in message
>>>>> news:gbqd8u$uar$1@aioe.org...
>>>>>> A policeman has actually been charged with causing death by dangerous
>>>>>> driving after a crash which left a 16 year old girl dead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sit back and wait for the not guilty after some back stage wrangling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/7641856.stm
>>>>>
>>>>> How can 'back-stage wrangling' affect a jury's decision?
>>>>>
>>>> Haven't you heard of "Jury Knobbling"?
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, the CPS could drop the case due to (undisclosed)
>>>> technical reasons.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>
>>> Not in the public interest or no evidence presented due to the lack of
>>> it.
>>
>> What lack of evidence ?
>> Fortunately therehere were a number of eyewitnesses.
>>
>> --
>> Joe Lee
>>>
> There were number of eyewitnesses to the shooting of seven bullets to the
> head on the tube also.
That's true, but from what I know of this case I believe he will be found
guilty as charged.
--
Joe Lee
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:59:47 +0100
author: Joe Lee invalid@noaddress
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Re: Policeman charged over death
Alang wrote:
>
> I recall a comment at the time that the constable in that case was
> charged with the most serious possible offence because it was more
> likely he would get off. A risky tactic but more difficult to prove so
> more likely to lead to an acquittal. Which is what happened. There is
> no doubt he killed a man. There is no doubt he was speeding even
> though he had been ordered not to. The jury refused to convict on
> causing death by dangerous driving and were not offered a lesser
> offence.
Thing is that the most serious possible charge here would have been
"murder". Followed by "manslaughter"...
Interestingly when it's a police officer killed by a driver the charge
often is "murder".
date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 20:08:01 GMT
author: Mark Evans
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