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date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:35:56 +0100,    group: uk.legal        back       
Productivity of legislators   
How does one measure this ?

ISTM the worst method involves counting the number of measures passed or 
time spent in formal session

-- 
FERGUS O'ROURKE
www.irish-lawyer.com
(Not just law stuff)
date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:35:56 +0100   author:   Fergus O'Rourke

Re: Productivity of legislators   
Fergus O'Rourke wrote:
> How does one measure this ?
>
> ISTM the worst method involves counting the number of measures passed
> or time spent in formal session

In a mature functioning society, i would suggest the least laws passed the 
better. Laws need to be updated and amended for changing circumstances, 
around social values, technology and the ever growing  international nature 
of crime. But, outside of this, there is no reason why we couldnt have a 
decade or so of no new laws.

Of course, one act needs to be passed every year, because of the temporary 
nature of income tax, a built in annual expiration needs to be renewed.

Gaz
date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:29:09 +0100   author:   Gaz

Re: Productivity of legislators   
On 28 Sep, 11:29, "Gaz"  wrote:

>
> In a mature functioning society, i would suggest the least laws passed the
> better. Laws need to be updated and amended for changing circumstances,
> around social values, technology and the ever growing  international nature
> of crime. But, outside of this, there is no reason why we couldnt have a
> decade or so of no new laws.

Yes indeed! One thing that productivity does not tell you is quality.
I'd actually likely to see a lot of legislative activity - repealing
and tidying up the mess that parliament have made of the statute
books. I and friends have long hoped for a system when you can ask (of
any legislative provision) who is to blame for it. You can then index
that against (say) appeal cases trying to sort it out and score a big
minus to those who did not exercise proper quality control.

Francis
date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:31:27 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Francis Davey

Re: Productivity of legislators   
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 at 10:35:56, Fergus O'Rourke 
 wrote in uk.legal :

>How does one measure this ?

How about they be paid by the hour - and only for official political 
activities, e.g. Commons chamber attendance+committees, constituency 
work, etc.
>
>ISTM the worst method involves counting the number of measures passed or
>time spent in formal session
>

-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:15:56 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: Productivity of legislators   
"Paul Hyett" <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:sc7itzWI183IFwHT@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 at 10:35:56, Fergus O'Rourke 
>  wrote in uk.legal :
>
>>How does one measure this ?
>
> How about they be paid by the hour - and only for official political 
> activities, e.g. Commons chamber attendance+committees, constituency work, 
> etc.

In Ireland, we'd have to pay them more than at present, and not necessarily 
for doing the  right things. (mind you, what are the right things and who 
decides ?)

It would be a recipe for make-work schemes e.g. longer sessions of 
parliament with rows of snoring politicians
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:58:59 +0100   author:   Fergus O'Rourke

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