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date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:35:56 +0100,
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Productivity of legislators
How does one measure this ?
ISTM the worst method involves counting the number of measures passed or
time spent in formal session
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FERGUS O'ROURKE
www.irish-lawyer.com
(Not just law stuff)
date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:35:56 +0100
author: Fergus O'Rourke
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Re: Productivity of legislators
Fergus O'Rourke wrote:
> How does one measure this ?
>
> ISTM the worst method involves counting the number of measures passed
> or time spent in formal session
In a mature functioning society, i would suggest the least laws passed the
better. Laws need to be updated and amended for changing circumstances,
around social values, technology and the ever growing international nature
of crime. But, outside of this, there is no reason why we couldnt have a
decade or so of no new laws.
Of course, one act needs to be passed every year, because of the temporary
nature of income tax, a built in annual expiration needs to be renewed.
Gaz
date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 11:29:09 +0100
author: Gaz
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Re: Productivity of legislators
On 28 Sep, 11:29, "Gaz" wrote:
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> In a mature functioning society, i would suggest the least laws passed the
> better. Laws need to be updated and amended for changing circumstances,
> around social values, technology and the ever growing international nature
> of crime. But, outside of this, there is no reason why we couldnt have a
> decade or so of no new laws.
Yes indeed! One thing that productivity does not tell you is quality.
I'd actually likely to see a lot of legislative activity - repealing
and tidying up the mess that parliament have made of the statute
books. I and friends have long hoped for a system when you can ask (of
any legislative provision) who is to blame for it. You can then index
that against (say) appeal cases trying to sort it out and score a big
minus to those who did not exercise proper quality control.
Francis
date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:31:27 -0700 (PDT)
author: Francis Davey
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Re: Productivity of legislators
On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 at 10:35:56, Fergus O'Rourke
wrote in uk.legal :
>How does one measure this ?
How about they be paid by the hour - and only for official political
activities, e.g. Commons chamber attendance+committees, constituency
work, etc.
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>ISTM the worst method involves counting the number of measures passed or
>time spent in formal session
>
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Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:15:56 GMT
author: Paul Hyett lid
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Re: Productivity of legislators
"Paul Hyett" <pah@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:sc7itzWI183IFwHT@blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 at 10:35:56, Fergus O'Rourke
> wrote in uk.legal :
>
>>How does one measure this ?
>
> How about they be paid by the hour - and only for official political
> activities, e.g. Commons chamber attendance+committees, constituency work,
> etc.
In Ireland, we'd have to pay them more than at present, and not necessarily
for doing the right things. (mind you, what are the right things and who
decides ?)
It would be a recipe for make-work schemes e.g. longer sessions of
parliament with rows of snoring politicians
date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:58:59 +0100
author: Fergus O'Rourke
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