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date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:16:11 +0100,    group: uk.business.telework        back       
RFD: remove uk.business.telework   
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                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following changes
in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:

             delete moderated newsgroup uk.business.telework

Newsgroup line:
uk.business.telework    Teleworkers and their employers (Moderated)


      *** ALL DISCUSSION MUST TAKE PLACE IN UK.NET.NEWS.CONFIG ***

This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Further procedural details are given below.

RATIONALE: remove uk.business.telework

The moderated newsgroup uk.business.telework has not had any posts
since 2005 on groups.google.co.uk or news.demon.co.uk, except for
the one by the proponent detailed below.

It should be noted that a previous attempt to remove the group -
in 2005 - failed as the attempt to remove the group sparked some
life into it, which has now died down.

An attempt to contact the moderator via uk-business-telework-request
(at) usenet.org.uk resulted in a 'bounce' stating that
ukbt-mods@sandj.demon.co.uk is undeliverable.   Mailing the moderation
address uk-business-telework (at) usenet.org.uk also resulted in a
'bounce'.  On Tuesday, 29th September, the proponent posted to the
group, bypassing the moderation system, looking for volunteers; none
have come forward.

The group is clearly 'dead'.  Removing it seems the only viable option.

END RATIONALE


PROPOSAL: remove uk.business.telework

That the newsgroup uk.business.telework be rmgroup'ed.


CHARTER: uk.business.telework

uk.business.telework is a moderated newsgroup for the discussion
and dissemination of information in the field of telework, as it
relates to the United Kingdom.

The term 'telework' concerns the use of information and communication
technologies (ICTs) to enable work to be carried out at a distance
from where it is needed or where it may have conventionally taken
place. Such a role may include (but is not limited to) :

    * Home-based telework, or telecommuting.
    * Mobile telework.
    * Telecentres.
    * Telecottages.
    * Relocated business functions.
    * Outsourcing.
    * Dispersed team working.
    * Governments, researchers and other interested individuals.

It is intended that the emphasis of newsgroup discussions will
concern 'work-related' issues as opposed to 'technical' issues which
may be more suitably answered in another newsgroup, however, this
does not preclude technical issues from being raised if they relate
to the field of telework.

This group will not accept postings which are:

    * related to specific hardware or software problems,
    * binaries,
    * solicitations for employment or job offers (which are more suitable
      for the uk.job.* hierarchies),
    * of a direct and commercial nature, which includes postings offering
      commercial products or services, or those containing self-promotion
      material,
    * not in English,
    * crossposted to more than 4 other newsgroups.

Moderation policy: uk.business.telework

uk.business.telework employs a combination of human and robomoderation.

The robomoderator will initially screen all posts, automatically
rejecting *any* article which:

    * is crossposted to more than 4 other newsgroups
    * contains encoded binary files

The robomoderator will then forward all new poster's submissions
to the moderation team, who will review them for compliance with
the group's charter. If the moderation team approves their first
post, the poster will be added to the robomoderators 'white list'.

Individuals who are placed on the 'white list' will have all further
posts automatically accepted by the robomoderator, unless the article
fails the robomoderators initial screening (above).

From time to time individuals may violate the charter of the
newsgroup, in which case they will be removed from the robomoderator's
'white list' and all further posts forwarded to the moderation team
for review.

The moderation team will reply to individuals regarding articles
which have been rejected. However posters should be aware that if
they are using an invalid Reply To: address, they should clearly
state a valid address for correspondence within the article itself,
in such circumstances the moderation team will make no extra effort
to communicate with the poster.

The moderation team may cancel articles which have been posted to
the group, due to forgery and errors in moderation scripts.  Appeal
of rejected submissions: uk.business.telework If you feel your
article has been wrongly rejected you should reword your post and
re-submit to the submission address .

If this article is also rejected, you may appeal directly to the
support team at  where
your article will be considered for acceptance. If a majority of
the ubt-team decides to accept the article, it will be forwarded
to the newsgroup. If the article is rejected again, the person
appealing the rejection will be sent a summary of the ubt-team's
ruling.  Structure: uk.business.telework The ubt-team is made up
of four moderators who are collectively known as the 'moderation
team' and five facilitators who are collectively known as the
'support-team'. They provide expertise and help with administrative
tasks and other services which may be required to assist the
moderation team.

Anyone may volunteer for the moderation team, should a position
become available. Appointments can only be made by a majority
decision of the full ubt-team.

Moderators may also be removed by a majority decision of the full
ubt-team. Moderators wishing to retire/resign should make a statement
to this effect on the newsgroup, giving at least one months notice
so that a replacement may be appointed.

Positions on the support team are usually made by invitation only,
to ensure a good mix of skills/experience is available in support
of the group. However you may wish to register your interest with
the ubt-team, so your skills/experience may be considered in the
event of any vacancy.

Submission advice: uk.business.telework
Submissions may be posted directly through your news reader software
(which will then be forwarded to the moderation team), or mailed
directly to our submission address .

Please try to use a descriptive 'subject' field in your article,
and only quote relevant text in follow-ups. Try starting a new
thread, by changing the subject field when a topic has begun to
wander. Please observe reasonable netiquette on signatures.  Moderation
submission address

    uk-business-telework@usenet.org.uk

The formal arrangements for modification established when the group
was created have collapsed, and the moderation has now been taken
over by Simon Reed, with the approval of the last remaining moderator
from the original team. It is anticipated that a formal review of
the charter will follow. The current moderator is

Simon Reed
    

Moderator contact address

    uk-business-telework-request@usenet.org.uk

END CHARTER

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes.  In this phase of
the process, any potential problems with the proposal should be raised
and resolved.  The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 10
days, starting from when this RFD is posted to uk.net.news.announce
(i.e. until October 15th) after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be
posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.
Alternatively, the proposal may proceed by the fast-track method.  Please
do not attempt to vote until this happens.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the "Guidelines for Group Creation
within the UK Hierarchy" as published regularly in uk.net.news.announce
and is available from http://www.usenet.org.uk/guidelines.html (the UK
Usenet website).  Please refer to this document if you have any questions
about the process.

DISTRIBUTION:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
        uk.net.news.announce
        uk.net.news.config
        uk.business.telework

Proponent:
        Mike Bristow <mike(at)urgle.com>

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date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:16:11 +0100   author:   Mike Bristow mike(at)urgle.com

Re: RFD: remove uk.business.telework   
On 04 Oct 2009 Mike Bristow <mike(at)urgle.com> wrote in
news:rfd1-uk.business.telework-remove-20091004191611$0114@gradwell.ne
t: 

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
>                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
> 
> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following
> changes in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:
> 
>              delete moderated newsgroup uk.business.telework

Minor pedandtic quibble, that's normally phrased as remove ... not 
delete ... .

> PROPOSAL: remove uk.business.telework
> 
> That the newsgroup uk.business.telework be rmgroup'ed.

Agreed.

-- 
Graham Drabble
http://www.drabble.me.uk/
date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:10:26 +0100   author:   Graham Drabble

Re: RFD: remove uk.business.telework   
Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:10:26 
 uk.net.news.config 
Graham Drabble 

>> PROPOSAL: remove uk.business.telework
>>
>> That the newsgroup uk.business.telework be rmgroup'ed.
>
>Agreed.

FT for me.

-- 
Wm...
Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 01:50:56 +0100   author:   Wm...

Re: RFD: remove uk.business.telework   
In article <rfd1-uk.business.telework-remove-20091004191611$0114@gradwell.net>,
	Mike Bristow <mike> wrote:
>
>                      REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>
> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following changes
> in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:
>
>              delete moderated newsgroup uk.business.telework
[snip]

There has been little discussion of this RFD, but I suspect this
is due to the proposal being uncontentious - all the commentry so
far has been supportive.

At the moment I expect I will apply for a fast track when the initial 10
day period has passed - but discussion might change my mind.

Cheers,

-- 
Please help Imogen May keep talking - www.imogenmay.com
date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:42:43 +0100   author:   Mike Bristow

Re: RFD: remove uk.business.telework   
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:42:43 +0100, Mike Bristow 
wrote:

>At the moment I expect I will apply for a fast track when the initial 10
>day period has passed - but discussion might change my mind.

Do it.  I can't imagine there'll be any objections.

FWIW, I /thought/ I'd previously replied to your original post
supporting the proposal - dunno where that went.
date: Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:29:07 +0100   author:   .m

Re: RFD: remove uk.business.telework   
On Fri, 09 Oct 2009 18:29:07 +0100, .m  
wrote:

>On Fri, 9 Oct 2009 16:42:43 +0100, Mike Bristow 
>wrote:
>
>>At the moment I expect I will apply for a fast track when the initial 10
>>day period has passed - but discussion might change my mind.
>
>Do it.  I can't imagine there'll be any objections.

and one more agreement (and I did occasionally post to the groups
years ago)

Tim
-- 
Tim Sharrock   (tim@sharrock.org.uk)
date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:30:42 +0100   author:   Tim Sharrock

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