I've seen somewhere, and I can't remember where, a reference to the use
of buried steel containers as underground storage. It may have been
here, if so apologies for forgetting who posted the info.

I'm tempted to consider this as an option for new tractor and tool
storage. I don't want to have much showing above ground and one
possibility is a cut and cover on the earth berm in front of the
existing barn.

Has anyone any experience of this? Any guesses about longevity? I was
thinking of coating the containers with Delta membrane to facilitate
drainage and installing a land drain around three sides to prevent the
containers from floating in the clay if we have a long rainy season.

On Nov 2, 6:40 pm, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> I've seen somewhere, and I can't remember where, a reference to the use
> of buried steel containers as underground storage. It may have been
> here, if so apologies for forgetting who posted the info.
>
> I'm tempted to consider this as an option for new tractor and tool
> storage. I don't want to have much showing above ground and one
> possibility is a cut and cover on the earth berm in front of the
> existing barn.
>
> Has anyone any experience of this? Any guesses about longevity? I was
> thinking of coating the containers with Delta membrane to facilitate
> drainage and installing a land drain around three sides to prevent the
> containers from floating in the clay if we have a long rainy season.

Hi, Steve,

I've considered this alternative myself.  I can buy used Hi-cubes for
under 1800.00 USD.   The company will set them in place on my site for
that.  They are aluminum....and I can get longer ones for just a few
dollars more.   I'm thinking of setting them in a square-perimeter
format....so as to create four walls...with two end entrances,
exits.....Total cost to me would be under $20,000.....so that's cheap
by today's building standards.  The inner area would initially be
open, but would serve all our needs here in our climate in the
meantime.  The containers I can buy are all used, but they all have
solid oak flooring...they're all Aluminum...and they look great.
This is just my take....but you're more than welcome to build on this
idea.   I've already drawn it up..   For now, just a goal...but I
think it would enable me to keep things sorted, safe and in the
dry....while allowing me to build an arena to play in the wintertime.
( I want to learn how to rope cattle.)
In the warm and dry.   LOL.   This concept is something I haven't
shared with anybody else, so consider it as just "hot talk or "dreams"
right now.   Regardless,  if I can buy these used APL Containers for
that kind of money, ...and build on this.....it would give me all
kinds of other opportunities to make a quid or two.   You, too.

All the best,

Burkie

Dear Steve:    If you could just find a level place to set your first
container....-with the prospect of adding on, in the future, find the
supplier that will work with you.....I don't think you'll ever be more
happy.   Electrify them...as you go.
You can't begin to build a building for the cost involved......and
don't get the benefits for doing so.   I need to be doing this
myself...so please don't consider me be a preacher.   If, I had the
money, they would all be here now.

Take care,

Burkie

By the way, our new woodstove sure feels good tonight!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------On Nov 2, 10:08 pm, Burkie  wrote:
> On Nov 2, 6:40 pm, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
>
> > I've seen somewhere, and I can't remember where, a reference to the use
> > of buried steel containers as underground storage. It may have been
> > here, if so apologies for forgetting who posted the info.
>
> > I'm tempted to consider this as an option for new tractor and tool
> > storage. I don't want to have much showing above ground and one
> > possibility is a cut and cover on the earth berm in front of the
> > existing barn.
>
> > Has anyone any experience of this? Any guesses about longevity? I was
> > thinking of coating the containers with Delta membrane to facilitate
> > drainage and installing a land drain around three sides to prevent the
> > containers from floating in the clay if we have a long rainy season.
>
> Hi, Steve,
>
> I've considered this alternative myself.  I can buy used Hi-cubes for
> under 1800.00 USD.   The company will set them in place on my site for
> that.  They are aluminum....and I can get longer ones for just a few
> dollars more.   I'm thinking of setting them in a square-perimeter
> format....so as to create four walls...with two end entrances,
> exits.....Total cost to me would be under $20,000.....so that's cheap
> by today's building standards.  The inner area would initially be
> open, but would serve all our needs here in our climate in the
> meantime.  The containers I can buy are all used, but they all have
> solid oak flooring...they're all Aluminum...and they look great.
> This is just my take....but you're more than welcome to build on this
> idea.   I've already drawn it up..   For now, just a goal...but I
> think it would enable me to keep things sorted, safe and in the
> dry....while allowing me to build an arena to play in the wintertime.
> ( I want to learn how to rope cattle.)
> In the warm and dry.   LOL.   This concept is something I haven't
> shared with anybody else, so consider it as just "hot talk or "dreams"
> right now.   Regardless,  if I can buy these used APL Containers for
> that kind of money, ...and build on this.....it would give me all
> kinds of other opportunities to make a quid or two.   You, too.
>
> All the best,
>
> Burkie

Burkie wrote:

> 
> By the way, our new woodstove sure feels good tonight!
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
How cold is it there? By the way we killed our two wethers and the 
bigger one was 55kg on the hooks, butcher thought he was rather large. 
He wasnt as fat as I was expecting which was good. Cooked some chops in 
the wood stove - oven with sweet chile sauce, garlic, onion and apricots 
and pineapple and they were rather nice. Wish I had written down the 
recipe as now have forgotten all of  what I did.
Weather was nice and warm here today as the cold south westerly wind 
(off the south pole)we have been having lately finally eased off.
Gave the horses a spring clean and tick wash.
L

In message <1j8kxmb.1rf40hz1bhjs8wN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, Steve Firth 
<%steve%@malloc.co.uk> writes
>I've seen somewhere, and I can't remember where, a reference to the use
>of buried steel containers as underground storage. It may have been
>here, if so apologies for forgetting who posted the info.

There is a current thread in uk.d-i-y where bringing soil up over a 
shipping container was suggested to enhance security.
>
>I'm tempted to consider this as an option for new tractor and tool
>storage. I don't want to have much showing above ground and one
>possibility is a cut and cover on the earth berm in front of the
>existing barn.

Retaining the soil either side of the entrance might prove tricky. 
Perhaps the lattice structure seen on steep road embankments?
>
>Has anyone any experience of this? Any guesses about longevity? I was
>thinking of coating the containers with Delta membrane to facilitate
>drainage and installing a land drain around three sides to prevent the
>containers from floating in the clay if we have a long rainy season.

WW2 bomb shelters in *Anderson* steel should give a clue:-)

regards

-- 
Tim Lamb

On 2009-11-03, lynz <lynz@exxtra.co.invalid> wrote:
> Burkie wrote:
>
>> 
>> By the way, our new woodstove sure feels good tonight!
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
> How cold is it there? By the way we killed our two wethers and the 
> bigger one was 55kg o

Wow! Friend brought an old ram to local meat factory, it killed out
at 56kg, and broke the line at a weak spot. Since then, very large
animals are killed last thing in evening

> n the hooks, butcher thought he was rather large. 
> He wasnt as fat as I was expecting which was good. Cooked some chops in 
> the wood stove - oven with sweet chile sauce, garlic, onion and apricots 
> and pineapple and they were rather nice. Wish I had written down the 

Your old boot would taste good with those attachments. What breed was
the sheep?.

> recipe as now have forgotten all of  what I did.
> Weather was nice and warm here today as the cold south westerly wind 
> (off the south pole)we have been having lately finally eased off.
> Gave the horses a spring clean and tick wash.
> L


-- 
Greymaus....
 \/\
    \?

On 2009-11-03, Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
> I've seen somewhere, and I can't remember where, a reference to the use
> of buried steel containers as underground storage. It may have been
> here, if so apologies for forgetting who posted the info.
>
> I'm tempted to consider this as an option for new tractor and tool
> storage. I don't want to have much showing above ground and one
> possibility is a cut and cover on the earth berm in front of the
> existing barn.
>
> Has anyone any experience of this? Any guesses about longevity? I was
> thinking of coating the containers with Delta membrane to facilitate
> drainage and installing a land drain around three sides to prevent the
> containers from floating in the clay if we have a long rainy season.

On the Island of Ireland, anything like this is going to attract a
lot of attention... Maybe in the Mainland also. (There was a rumor
when I was young that there had been an IRA bunker somewhere near
this house, I dug for years to find it, finally asked an old man, and
he said that the contents had been discreetly sent on to the relevent
authorities around 1933)

-- 
Greymaus....
 \/\
    \?

On Nov 3, 2:55 am, lynz <l...@exxtra.co.invalid> wrote:
> Burkie wrote:
>
> > By the way, our new woodstove sure feels good tonight!
> > -----------------------------------------------------------------------> How cold is it there? By the way we killed our two wethers and the
> bigger one was 55kg on the hooks, butcher thought he was rather large.
> He wasnt as fat as I was expecting which was good. Cooked some chops in
> the wood stove - oven with sweet chile sauce, garlic, onion and apricots
> and pineapple and they were rather nice. Wish I had written down the
> recipe as now have forgotten all of  what I did.
> Weather was nice and warm here today as the cold south westerly wind
> (off the south pole)we have been having lately finally eased off.
> Gave the horses a spring clean and tick wash.
> L

What a great combo!   We really like to use and mix some fruit in with
our veggies   Apples, peaches, pears, oranges, whatever.   We throw
them all together on a grill with the meat as it's being grilled.  It
all tastes wonderful.   Just topdress with some selected spices and
you will enjoy it all.   All you need is one good electric skillet.
The bigger, the better.  Seasoned to your own taste.   Lots of fun,
and the left-overs can be refrigerated and eaten later.   No fuss, no
muss.   No waste, either.   Just like you're Hillary Benn is
advocating now.   (Thank God for that for a change!)

Burkie

greymausg@mail.com wrote:
> On 2009-11-03, lynz <lynz@exxtra.co.invalid> wrote:
>> Burkie wrote:
>>
>>> By the way, our new woodstove sure feels good tonight!
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
> 
>> n the hooks, butcher thought he was rather large. 
>> He wasnt as fat as I was expecting which was good. Cooked some chops in 
>> the wood stove - oven with sweet chile sauce, garlic, onion and apricots 
>> and pineapple and they were rather nice. Wish I had written down the 
> 
> Your old boot would taste good with those attachments. What breed was
> the sheep?.


Think he was a Romney Suffolk cross. We dont have any pure breds.