You lot will have to concentrate, I think you have really upset Defra
now. It is probably all this talk of weather and sloes and things.

You are supposed to be going over all silly about how marvelous
British vets are, in comparison to the filthy foreign ones who send us
contaminated corned beef tins stuffed with bushmeat.

If you cannot manage a cogent argument, you are supposed to stalk and
disseminate deliberate fabrications.

Unless I am very much mistaken, it is no longer possible to search the
archives of uk.business agriculture properly using Google Groups.
Those formative years are unavailable. It was if the Politburp never
existed.

Possibly, I am mistaken, they can't be as bad as the Chinese, or can
they? 

Britain is the world's first, only and undoubtedly last vetocracy.  It
is possible.

We will probably never know the truth. It is probably just a glitch.

Anyway, full records of those years of animal disease are stored off
shore and can be made available at the touch of a button or the wink
of an eye.

So all  those years of posts by the Politburo are only temporarily
unavailable. 

Fret not. Your role in the decade of disasters will be fully
recognised.

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

On Aug 30, 11:24 am, Pat Gardiner
 wrote:
> You lot will have to concentrate, I think you have really upset Defra
> now. It is probably all this talk of weather and sloes and things.
>
> You are supposed to be going over all silly about how marvelous
> British vets are, in comparison to the filthy foreign ones who send us
> contaminated corned beef tins stuffed with bushmeat.
>
> If you cannot manage a cogent argument, you are supposed to stalk and
> disseminate deliberate fabrications.
>
> Unless I am very much mistaken, it is no longer possible to search the
> archives of uk.business agriculture properly using Google Groups.
> Those formative years are unavailable. It was if the Politburp never
> existed.
>
> Possibly, I am mistaken, they can't be as bad as the Chinese, or can
> they?
>
> Britain is the world's first, only and undoubtedly last vetocracy.  It
> is possible.
>
> We will probably never know the truth. It is probably just a glitch.
>
> Anyway, full records of those years of animal disease are stored off
> shore and can be made available at the touch of a button or the wink
> of an eye.
>
> So all  those years of posts by the Politburo are only temporarily
> unavailable.
>
> Fret not. Your role in the decade of disasters will be fully
> recognised.
>
> --
> Regards
> Pat Gardiner
> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.com andhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

Pat:   Just type in the date, specifically, what you want to look up
and study the Googlegroups Search capablility.

It still works.

Burkie

On Aug 30, 11:24 am, Pat Gardiner
 wrote:
> You lot will have to concentrate, I think you have really upset Defra
> now. It is probably all this talk of weather and sloes and things.
>
> You are supposed to be going over all silly about how marvelous
> British vets are, in comparison to the filthy foreign ones who send us
> contaminated corned beef tins stuffed with bushmeat.
>
> If you cannot manage a cogent argument, you are supposed to stalk and
> disseminate deliberate fabrications.
>
> Unless I am very much mistaken, it is no longer possible to search the
> archives of uk.business agriculture properly using Google Groups.
> Those formative years are unavailable. It was if the Politburp never
> existed.
>
> Possibly, I am mistaken, they can't be as bad as the Chinese, or can
> they?
>
> Britain is the world's first, only and undoubtedly last vetocracy.  It
> is possible.
>
> We will probably never know the truth. It is probably just a glitch.
>
> Anyway, full records of those years of animal disease are stored off
> shore and can be made available at the touch of a button or the wink
> of an eye.
>
> So all  those years of posts by the Politburo are only temporarily
> unavailable.
>
> Fret not. Your role in the decade of disasters will be fully
> recognised.
>
> --
> Regards
> Pat Gardiner
> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.com andhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

Johnathan Miller Search Results:

http://groups.google.com/group/uk.business.agriculture/browse_thread/thread/e9bab77639007ff1/5c1b8e35c8a54304?lnk=gst&q=Jonathan+Miller#5c1b8e35c8a54304

That will help refresh your memory.

Burkie

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:04:43 -0700 (PDT), Burkie 
wrote:

>On Aug 30, 11:24 am, Pat Gardiner
> wrote:
>> You lot will have to concentrate, I think you have really upset Defra
>> now. It is probably all this talk of weather and sloes and things.
>>
>> You are supposed to be going over all silly about how marvelous
>> British vets are, in comparison to the filthy foreign ones who send us
>> contaminated corned beef tins stuffed with bushmeat.
>>
>> If you cannot manage a cogent argument, you are supposed to stalk and
>> disseminate deliberate fabrications.
>>
>> Unless I am very much mistaken, it is no longer possible to search the
>> archives of uk.business agriculture properly using Google Groups.
>> Those formative years are unavailable. It was if the Politburp never
>> existed.
>>
>> Possibly, I am mistaken, they can't be as bad as the Chinese, or can
>> they?
>>
>> Britain is the world's first, only and undoubtedly last vetocracy.  It
>> is possible.
>>
>> We will probably never know the truth. It is probably just a glitch.
>>
>> Anyway, full records of those years of animal disease are stored off
>> shore and can be made available at the touch of a button or the wink
>> of an eye.
>>
>> So all  those years of posts by the Politburo are only temporarily
>> unavailable.
>>
>> Fret not. Your role in the decade of disasters will be fully
>> recognised.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> Pat Gardiner
>> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.com andhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>
>Pat:   Just type in the date, specifically, what you want to look up
>and study the Googlegroups Search capablility.
>
>It still works.

I'm still working on it. Last night the most useful facilities were
missing. 

On the assumption that what you say is correct (I'm sure that you are
right if you say so.) this is not really of much help if someone in
Patagonia wishes to research a particular subject

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>
>Burkie

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:01:23 +0100, Pat Gardiner
 wrote:

>On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:04:43 -0700 (PDT), Burkie 
>wrote:
>
>>On Aug 30, 11:24 am, Pat Gardiner
>> wrote:
>>> You lot will have to concentrate, I think you have really upset Defra
>>> now. It is probably all this talk of weather and sloes and things.
>>>
>>> You are supposed to be going over all silly about how marvelous
>>> British vets are, in comparison to the filthy foreign ones who send us
>>> contaminated corned beef tins stuffed with bushmeat.
>>>
>>> If you cannot manage a cogent argument, you are supposed to stalk and
>>> disseminate deliberate fabrications.
>>>
>>> Unless I am very much mistaken, it is no longer possible to search the
>>> archives of uk.business agriculture properly using Google Groups.
>>> Those formative years are unavailable. It was if the Politburp never
>>> existed.
>>>
>>> Possibly, I am mistaken, they can't be as bad as the Chinese, or can
>>> they?
>>>
>>> Britain is the world's first, only and undoubtedly last vetocracy.  It
>>> is possible.
>>>
>>> We will probably never know the truth. It is probably just a glitch.
>>>
>>> Anyway, full records of those years of animal disease are stored off
>>> shore and can be made available at the touch of a button or the wink
>>> of an eye.
>>>
>>> So all  those years of posts by the Politburo are only temporarily
>>> unavailable.
>>>
>>> Fret not. Your role in the decade of disasters will be fully
>>> recognised.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards
>>> Pat Gardiner
>>> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.com andhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>>
>>Pat:   Just type in the date, specifically, what you want to look up
>>and study the Googlegroups Search capablility.
>>
>>It still works.
>
>I'm still working on it. Last night the most useful facilities were
>missing. 
>
>On the assumption that what you say is correct (I'm sure that you are
>right if you say so.) this is not really of much help if someone in
>Patagonia wishes to research a particular subject

As promised, I have been doing some more work. It does seem that the
archives are indeed no longer available to the world in what is a
major animal  disease crisis.

I did the following:

1.	Search for "uk.business.agriculture"
2.	Go to "Advanced Search"
3.	Put "PMWS" in the very first box
4.	Put "uk.business.agriculture" in the fifth box down
5.	Hit the search box
6.	You get what seems a normal listing of appropriate posts to
ukba
7.	Hit the "Sort by Date" button
8.	You get 10 pages of results, when we all know that there
should be thousands. There is a pattern. All are from this month -
August except the very last two.

Now I did a lot more digging about. The postings seem to be there,
simply not accessible normally.

What is going on? Does anyone have any idea?

Just think the collective wisdom of the Politburo missing from the
world stage!

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

On Aug 31, 11:48 am, Pat Gardiner
 wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:01:23 +0100, Pat Gardiner
>
>
>
>  wrote:
> >On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:04:43 -0700 (PDT), Burkie 
> >wrote:
>
> >>On Aug 30, 11:24 am, Pat Gardiner
> >> wrote:
> >>> You lot will have to concentrate, I think you have really upset Defra
> >>> now. It is probably all this talk of weather and sloes and things.
>
> >>> You are supposed to be going over all silly about how marvelous
> >>> British vets are, in comparison to the filthy foreign ones who send us
> >>> contaminated corned beef tins stuffed with bushmeat.
>
> >>> If you cannot manage a cogent argument, you are supposed to stalk and
> >>> disseminate deliberate fabrications.
>
> >>> Unless I am very much mistaken, it is no longer possible to search the
> >>> archives of uk.business agriculture properly using Google Groups.
> >>> Those formative years are unavailable. It was if the Politburp never
> >>> existed.
>
> >>> Possibly, I am mistaken, they can't be as bad as the Chinese, or can
> >>> they?
>
> >>> Britain is the world's first, only and undoubtedly last vetocracy.  It
> >>> is possible.
>
> >>> We will probably never know the truth. It is probably just a glitch.
>
> >>> Anyway, full records of those years of animal disease are stored off
> >>> shore and can be made available at the touch of a button or the wink
> >>> of an eye.
>
> >>> So all  those years of posts by the Politburo are only temporarily
> >>> unavailable.
>
> >>> Fret not. Your role in the decade of disasters will be fully
> >>> recognised.
>
> >>> --
> >>> Regards
> >>> Pat Gardiner
> >>> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.comandhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>
> >>Pat:   Just type in the date, specifically, what you want to look up
> >>and study the Googlegroups Search capablility.
>
> >>It still works.
>
> >I'm still working on it. Last night the most useful facilities were
> >missing.
>
> >On the assumption that what you say is correct (I'm sure that you are
> >right if you say so.) this is not really of much help if someone in
> >Patagonia wishes to research a particular subject
>
> As promised, I have been doing some more work. It does seem that the
> archives are indeed no longer available to the world in what is a
> major animal  disease crisis.
>
> I did the following:
>
> 1.      Search for "uk.business.agriculture"
> 2.      Go to "Advanced Search"
> 3.      Put "PMWS" in the very first box
> 4.      Put "uk.business.agriculture" in the fifth box down
> 5.      Hit the search box
> 6.      You get what seems a normal listing of appropriate posts to
> ukba
> 7.      Hit the "Sort by Date" button
> 8.      You get 10 pages of results, when we all know that there
> should be thousands. There is a pattern. All are from this month -
> August except the very last two.
>
> Now I did a lot more digging about. The postings seem to be there,
> simply not accessible normally.
>
> What is going on? Does anyone have any idea?
>
> Just think the collective wisdom of the Politburo missing from the
> world stage!
>
> --
> Regards
> Pat Gardiner
> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.com andhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

Don't worry, Pat.   They are there.   The EU Took Them.

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 19:34:53 -0700 (PDT), Burkie 
wrote:

>On Aug 31, 11:48 am, Pat Gardiner
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 13:01:23 +0100, Pat Gardiner
>>
>>
>>
>>  wrote:
>> >On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 03:04:43 -0700 (PDT), Burkie 
>> >wrote:
>>
>> >>On Aug 30, 11:24 am, Pat Gardiner
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> You lot will have to concentrate, I think you have really upset Defra
>> >>> now. It is probably all this talk of weather and sloes and things.
>>
>> >>> You are supposed to be going over all silly about how marvelous
>> >>> British vets are, in comparison to the filthy foreign ones who send us
>> >>> contaminated corned beef tins stuffed with bushmeat.
>>
>> >>> If you cannot manage a cogent argument, you are supposed to stalk and
>> >>> disseminate deliberate fabrications.
>>
>> >>> Unless I am very much mistaken, it is no longer possible to search the
>> >>> archives of uk.business agriculture properly using Google Groups.
>> >>> Those formative years are unavailable. It was if the Politburp never
>> >>> existed.
>>
>> >>> Possibly, I am mistaken, they can't be as bad as the Chinese, or can
>> >>> they?
>>
>> >>> Britain is the world's first, only and undoubtedly last vetocracy.  It
>> >>> is possible.
>>
>> >>> We will probably never know the truth. It is probably just a glitch.
>>
>> >>> Anyway, full records of those years of animal disease are stored off
>> >>> shore and can be made available at the touch of a button or the wink
>> >>> of an eye.
>>
>> >>> So all  those years of posts by the Politburo are only temporarily
>> >>> unavailable.
>>
>> >>> Fret not. Your role in the decade of disasters will be fully
>> >>> recognised.
>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Regards
>> >>> Pat Gardiner
>> >>> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.comandhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>>
>> >>Pat:   Just type in the date, specifically, what you want to look up
>> >>and study the Googlegroups Search capablility.
>>
>> >>It still works.
>>
>> >I'm still working on it. Last night the most useful facilities were
>> >missing.
>>
>> >On the assumption that what you say is correct (I'm sure that you are
>> >right if you say so.) this is not really of much help if someone in
>> >Patagonia wishes to research a particular subject
>>
>> As promised, I have been doing some more work. It does seem that the
>> archives are indeed no longer available to the world in what is a
>> major animal  disease crisis.
>>
>> I did the following:
>>
>> 1.      Search for "uk.business.agriculture"
>> 2.      Go to "Advanced Search"
>> 3.      Put "PMWS" in the very first box
>> 4.      Put "uk.business.agriculture" in the fifth box down
>> 5.      Hit the search box
>> 6.      You get what seems a normal listing of appropriate posts to
>> ukba
>> 7.      Hit the "Sort by Date" button
>> 8.      You get 10 pages of results, when we all know that there
>> should be thousands. There is a pattern. All are from this month -
>> August except the very last two.
>>
>> Now I did a lot more digging about. The postings seem to be there,
>> simply not accessible normally.
>>
>> What is going on? Does anyone have any idea?
>>
>> Just think the collective wisdom of the Politburo missing from the
>> world stage!
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> Pat Gardiner
>> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.com andhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>
>Don't worry, Pat.   They are there.   The EU Took Them.

Ah! The EU.

What you do about the EU is to find the thickest vet that is on the
list for a nice little trip abroad and you send them to Brussels,
where he or she agrees to something incredibly stupid.

The Continentals sensibly ignore or modify the new regulation in
application. In Britain, it is used to enhance the powers of Britain's
corrupt veterinary industry, by using the criminal law to strut the
countryside and intimidate the farmers.

Any complaints are blamed on Brussels or the EU. 

Since, the English, in particular, detest the EU, Britain's corrupt
vets live to terrorise the countryside, run protection rackets and
subvert democracy for another day.

It's a good system for extortion. Al Capone would be proud of it.

It is too late for anyone to join the bandwagon.

They slipped up badly with mutated PMWS and the world's justice system
is coming to get them to account for their actions. 

If the British can't control them, world organisations will have to do
the job.

This story is not going to go away. The use of antibiotics in British
pigs needs explanation. There isn't one that will bear scrutiny.

Anyway, the business of the missing searches on Google is going to
need some explaining too. Google gave undertakings that Usenet
postings would be held for at least 20 years.

I'm sure that there are plenty of solutions and that there is more
than enough expertise around to make the archives  of ukba available
in a useable form even if Google continue to withold the seraches.

I could ask around the Usenet. There are plenty of people with
technical ability that share my distaste for ukba and would have every
reason to make sure the records remain available.

Let's see what happens.

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/