Pat's Note: This outbreak seems to be causing a great deal of concern
in Canada. Over 5000 news reports.

Now, my old friends the Hamilton Spectator are reporting. They are
vetrrans of local  MRSA and C.Diff outbreaks in local hopsitals and
this journal has been making the pace in investigative journalism into
any cover-ups.

This could be the third human epidemic in a series linked to pigs. The
now closed plant did handle pork as well as other meats

If there is a link to their pigs and the mutated  PMWS outbreak, they
should spot it - and may be prepared to publish.

Some Listeria stains are found in pigs and do persist in pork
processing environments.

The essential class actions are starting. They won't miss any link to
massive use of antibiotics to handle pig disease locally if ther is
one.

If there is a link, they will be on Defra's doorstep with class
actions on a truly global scale. 

They won't be settled out of court with a gagging clause, that is for
sure.

http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/425810

Two more firms jointly launch class action against Maple Leaf

Two more law firms have come together to launch a $100-million
national class-action lawsuit against Maple Leaf Foods on behalf of
consumers who bought ready-to-eat meats on the recall list.

Ottawa resident Cezanne Bilodeau is the named representative plaintiff
on the new lawsuit filed today in Toronto.

"Cezanne and her son purchased and consumed four different cold meat
products on the recall list and they have been experiencing symptoms
of cramps and nausea for approximately the last four or five days,"
said lawyer Ted Charney of Toronto-based firm Falconer Charney LLP,
which is launching the suit jointly with Sutts Strosberg LLP. "And
they have gone to the doctor and had blood tests done."

Bilodeau could not immediately be reached for comment and the
statement of claim was not immediately available.

None of these allegations have been proven in court.

Charney said his firm's website has received more than 10,000 hits
after posting information about the lawsuit.

"People from across the country have completed applications indicating
that they are experiencing similar symptoms from consuming products on
the recall list," he said. "Others are very concerned because they and
their families have consumed the products, and they don't know if they
are going to develop the symptoms."

"There are going to be many stories to tell from this," Charney said.
"It's what we call just the tip of the iceberg."

Charney said he hopes to join this lawsuit together with the four
separate lawsuits filed Monday and Tuesday by Regina-based Merchant
Law Group, but it is too early to tell whether that would happen.

Darren Williams, a lawyer based in the Vancouver office of Merchant
Law, said today that the firm had not yet decided whether to join them
all together. 

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

On Aug 27, 2:15 pm, Pat Gardiner 
wrote:
> Pat's Note: This outbreak seems to be causing a great deal of concern
> in Canada. Over 5000 news reports.
>
> Now, my old friends the Hamilton Spectator are reporting. They are
> vetrrans of local  MRSA and C.Diff outbreaks in local hopsitals and
> this journal has been making the pace in investigative journalism into
> any cover-ups.
>
> This could be the third human epidemic in a series linked to pigs. The
> now closed plant did handle pork as well as other meats
>
> If there is a link to their pigs and the mutated  PMWS outbreak, they
> should spot it - and may be prepared to publish.
>
> Some Listeria stains are found in pigs and do persist in pork
> processing environments.
>
> The essential class actions are starting. They won't miss any link to
> massive use of antibiotics to handle pig disease locally if ther is
> one.
>
> If there is a link, they will be on Defra's doorstep with class
> actions on a truly global scale.
>
> They won't be settled out of court with a gagging clause, that is for
> sure.
>
> http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/425810
>
> Two more firms jointly launch class action against Maple Leaf
>
> Two more law firms have come together to launch a $100-million
> national class-action lawsuit against Maple Leaf Foods on behalf of
> consumers who bought ready-to-eat meats on the recall list.
>
> Ottawa resident Cezanne Bilodeau is the named representative plaintiff
> on the new lawsuit filed today in Toronto.
>
> "Cezanne and her son purchased and consumed four different cold meat
> products on the recall list and they have been experiencing symptoms
> of cramps and nausea for approximately the last four or five days,"
> said lawyer Ted Charney of Toronto-based firm Falconer Charney LLP,
> which is launching the suit jointly with Sutts Strosberg LLP. "And
> they have gone to the doctor and had blood tests done."
>
> Bilodeau could not immediately be reached for comment and the
> statement of claim was not immediately available.
>
> None of these allegations have been proven in court.
>
> Charney said his firm's website has received more than 10,000 hits
> after posting information about the lawsuit.
>
> "People from across the country have completed applications indicating
> that they are experiencing similar symptoms from consuming products on
> the recall list," he said. "Others are very concerned because they and
> their families have consumed the products, and they don't know if they
> are going to develop the symptoms."
>
> "There are going to be many stories to tell from this," Charney said.
> "It's what we call just the tip of the iceberg."
>
> Charney said he hopes to join this lawsuit together with the four
> separate lawsuits filed Monday and Tuesday by Regina-based Merchant
> Law Group, but it is too early to tell whether that would happen.
>
> Darren Williams, a lawyer based in the Vancouver office of Merchant
> Law, said today that the firm had not yet decided whether to join them
> all together.
>
> --
> Regards
> Pat Gardiner
> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.com andhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

Pat:   The affected people must be the main concern.   That the
"authorities" and I say that with complete disdain, have tried to
cover it up, which you said was happening, and it was, will now try to
cover this all up.   That isn't possible anymore.  We have our
election going on, the whole schmow. but the Truth is not being
presented by our media.   People here are pissed off .   They are
asking to know who to vote for, and they don't want to vote for the
candidates that we have.   You can write off this Democratic Fal-de-
ral and the next-to happen Republican fiasco.
Americans will make their minds us on their own.   No amount of
political subterfuge is going to influence us.
In fact, it's pissing people off.   The amount of money being spent is
ridiculous, in comparison to the problems that exist in this country
now.

Burkie

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:35:26 -0700 (PDT), Burkie 
wrote:

>On Aug 27, 2:15 pm, Pat Gardiner 
>wrote:
>> Pat's Note: This outbreak seems to be causing a great deal of concern
>> in Canada. Over 5000 news reports.
>>
>> Now, my old friends the Hamilton Spectator are reporting. They are
>> vetrrans of local  MRSA and C.Diff outbreaks in local hopsitals and
>> this journal has been making the pace in investigative journalism into
>> any cover-ups.
>>
>> This could be the third human epidemic in a series linked to pigs. The
>> now closed plant did handle pork as well as other meats
>>
>> If there is a link to their pigs and the mutated  PMWS outbreak, they
>> should spot it - and may be prepared to publish.
>>
>> Some Listeria stains are found in pigs and do persist in pork
>> processing environments.
>>
>> The essential class actions are starting. They won't miss any link to
>> massive use of antibiotics to handle pig disease locally if ther is
>> one.
>>
>> If there is a link, they will be on Defra's doorstep with class
>> actions on a truly global scale.
>>
>> They won't be settled out of court with a gagging clause, that is for
>> sure.
>>
>> http://www.thespec.com/News/BreakingNews/article/425810
>>
>> Two more firms jointly launch class action against Maple Leaf
>>
>> Two more law firms have come together to launch a $100-million
>> national class-action lawsuit against Maple Leaf Foods on behalf of
>> consumers who bought ready-to-eat meats on the recall list.
>>
>> Ottawa resident Cezanne Bilodeau is the named representative plaintiff
>> on the new lawsuit filed today in Toronto.
>>
>> "Cezanne and her son purchased and consumed four different cold meat
>> products on the recall list and they have been experiencing symptoms
>> of cramps and nausea for approximately the last four or five days,"
>> said lawyer Ted Charney of Toronto-based firm Falconer Charney LLP,
>> which is launching the suit jointly with Sutts Strosberg LLP. "And
>> they have gone to the doctor and had blood tests done."
>>
>> Bilodeau could not immediately be reached for comment and the
>> statement of claim was not immediately available.
>>
>> None of these allegations have been proven in court.
>>
>> Charney said his firm's website has received more than 10,000 hits
>> after posting information about the lawsuit.
>>
>> "People from across the country have completed applications indicating
>> that they are experiencing similar symptoms from consuming products on
>> the recall list," he said. "Others are very concerned because they and
>> their families have consumed the products, and they don't know if they
>> are going to develop the symptoms."
>>
>> "There are going to be many stories to tell from this," Charney said.
>> "It's what we call just the tip of the iceberg."
>>
>> Charney said he hopes to join this lawsuit together with the four
>> separate lawsuits filed Monday and Tuesday by Regina-based Merchant
>> Law Group, but it is too early to tell whether that would happen.
>>
>> Darren Williams, a lawyer based in the Vancouver office of Merchant
>> Law, said today that the firm had not yet decided whether to join them
>> all together.
>>
>> --
>> Regards
>> Pat Gardiner
>> Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!www.go-self-sufficient.com andhttp://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>
>Pat:   The affected people must be the main concern.  

This deserves  a detailed reply.

Like most Brits, I have an immediate distaste for medical negligence
claims and the "American" system that goes with them

We have the NHS and all claims come out of our pockets as taxpayers in
the end. Anyone injured for any reason does get basic free provision
for life.

However, your system of suing the pants off anyone making or  creating
medical mistakes does have its good points. It gets things changed
fast.

> That the
>"authorities" and I say that with complete disdain, have tried to
>cover it up, which you said was happening, and it was, will now try to
>cover this all up.   That isn't possible anymore.  

It is possible in England. Our system has failed to work, worse it has
gone bent. I followed all the normal complaints procedures very
politely, even to the extent of giving evidence to our Parliament .

Because of this I was threatened with my wife in our own home. I would
have gone into instant political asylum until,the culprit has been
caught and taken before the Courts, but it did not happen.

For personal reasons you all know about, I was unable to travel and
had to stay here and face the criminals down. The police told me to
make my complaints public as it would be the only way "you will be
safe."

There is a Parliamentary Committee meeting shortly to enquire into the
mess in English pig farming.  I should and would have been there if it
was possible. But anyway would not give evidence to an institution
that fails to protect its own witnesses.

I would have told them the story of the hidden epidemic of PMWS and
the role played by their vets.

But it will not happen. Instead they will get a carefully
choreographed well coached chorus blaming illegal meat imports and
foreign competition. 

Disease will just get a passing mention, proably along the lines that
compensation for culls should be increased. It will be a farce.

This is not democracy. This is international crime run by corrupt
government employees.

>We have our
>election going on, the whole schmow. but the Truth is not being
>presented by our media.   People here are pissed off .   They are
>asking to know who to vote for, and they don't want to vote for the
>candidates that we have.   You can write off this Democratic Fal-de-
>ral and the next-to happen Republican fiasco.
>Americans will make their minds us on their own.   No amount of
>political subterfuge is going to influence us.
>In fact, it's pissing people off.   The amount of money being spent is
>ridiculous, in comparison to the problems that exist in this country
>now.

I would probably be an American now had I gone into political asylum.
A bloody awkward one probably.

As it is, I could not possibly comment except to note that your
government failed to test the pigs for MRSA and it was only your hard
work that got them tested at all.

Didn't you get a visit from a former acting Colonel of the Marines?

...and your phone tapped?

Perhaps you have not yet sunk to the depths yet and there is still
some hope for you.

But the price of freedom is eternal vigilance

That was Jefferson.

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/
>
>Burkie