In article , Pat Gardiner 
 writes
>On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:35:38 +0100, Malcolm
> wrote:
>
>>
>>You made an utterly disgraceful comparison which merely serves to show
>>exactly what kind of person you are and to what lengths your
>>self-confessed obsession has driven you.
>
>Malcolm, if you make that kind of dramatic allegation, you simply
>encourage all of my detractors to actually go back and check to see if
>I really did make such a comparison.
>
>They then find out, if they did not know already that you are just a
>blast of hot air on a cold island. In doing so, they get the very
>valid point I was actually making.
>
You deliberately linked Karadic to British vets. Your belated wriggling 
cannot change that.

>Screaming headlines get the attention once or twice, before everyone
>turns to a different publication.
>
This applies equally to your own "screaming" and often deliberately 
misleading, indeed lying, headlines, for example "Britain's bent 
government vets face extradition".

>They have only to check the rest of the Usenet to decide who is
>reliable and who is not.
>
Indeed.

>You are very close to being yesterday's fish and chip wrapper.
>
More childish nonsense.

-- 
Malcolm

On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:18:59 +0100, Malcolm
 wrote:

>
>In article , Pat Gardiner 
> writes
>>On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:59:11 +0100, Old Codger
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>You are an incompetent buffoon Pat.  Malcolm has told you he has a
>>>website.  The very simplest of Google searches finds it and, as Malcolm
>>>has stated, the information you require is on the first page.  If you
>>>can actually manage that most simple of searches, and it should be
>>>within the capacity of even you, you will have to agree that the
>>>awarding institution is amongst the most eminent.
>>
>>I know he has a website. The point is that he can take the website
>>down, or alter it at any time, just as he does with his posts here.
>>
>I never "take down" or "alter" my posts here. Another Pat lie.
>
>>I wanted him to confirm its existence here, where he can't tamper with
>>my quoting his post, with the information, that he says he got his
>>degree from Bristol and when.
>>
>>The reasons are obvious.
>
>ROFL!!!
>
>You just get weirder and weirder.
>
>> I'm now interested to see him do it.
>>
>>I will then tell you what was going on.
>
>More ROFL!!!
>
>>If he won't post, you will
>>live in additional ignorance.
>>
>>Oddly enough although I checked it out earlier this evening, at 2315
>>it was unavailable. I expect he is performing his first routine
>>maintenance since December 2006, but I have saved a copy.
>>
>Bwahahahahaha!!!!!
>
>I may not have altered the first page since December 2006 (which it 
>clearly states at the foot of the page so well done for being able to 
>read that) but there's another page (perhaps you didn't find it) which 
>equally clearly states that it was updated in March 2008. You'd better 
>go back and check. The website is available as I type this and, if it 
>was unavailable earlier, I suggest the fault was at your end as Demon 
>have not reported any problems with webpage access overnight.
>
>>If anyone emails me privately, I can send them a copy.
>
>ROFL!!!!!!!
>
>You funny little man :-))))))

Unless I'm very much mistaken this is a modern variation of a scam not
unknown in ancient Rome.

I would explain it in detail here, but for fear of it spreading
through the internet like another virus and becoming endemic in
somewhere further from the law than Britain.

On your bike Ogilvie. You have been rumbled and if I spot you trying
it on with anyone else, they will get a private email, telling them
exactly how to turn the tables.

Your stalking and abuse had a purpose. You are not so completely
stupid as you appear or you had picked it up from someone else and are
simply copying a get rich quick scheme.

Now hop it. No easy money from me.

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/

In article , Pat Gardiner 
 writes
>On Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:18:59 +0100, Malcolm
> wrote:
>>In article , Pat Gardiner
>> writes
>>
>>>If anyone emails me privately, I can send them a copy.
>>
>>ROFL!!!!!!!
>>
>>You funny little man :-))))))
>
>Unless I'm very much mistaken this is a modern variation of a scam not
>unknown in ancient Rome.
>
You are, as so often, "very much mistaken". So completely mistaken that 
it could only be you making the claim.

Anything you don't understand or can't cope with has to become "a scam", 
a conspiracy theory, or some other utter nonsense.

>I would explain it in detail here, but for fear of it spreading
>through the internet like another virus and becoming endemic in
>somewhere further from the law than Britain.
>
Pathetic nonsense yet again. There is nothing to explain. If you think 
there is, then you have made it up.

>On your bike Ogilvie. You have been rumbled and if I spot you trying
>it on with anyone else, they will get a private email, telling them
>exactly how to turn the tables.
>
What on earth are you talking about now? It's clearly rubbish, whatever 
it is. Just more blethering combined with your usual nasty little 
threats.

>Your stalking and abuse had a purpose. You are not so completely
>stupid as you appear or you had picked it up from someone else and are
>simply copying a get rich quick scheme.
>
More complete and utter balderdash from a master of it.

>Now hop it. No easy money from me.
>
What????

If you think I am trying to get money from you or anyone else, produce 
your proof. As you won't be able to, withdraw the claim.

Otherwise, it is very clear that you have realised that your wittering 
on about my PhD has merely made you look a fool and you are now trying 
to divert attention from your foolishness with more of your silly 
nonsense, this time about a non-existent "scam".

-- 
Malcolm

On Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:07:49 +0100, Derek Moody
 wrote:

>In article <489604e3$0$2526$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk>, Old Codger
><URL:mailto:oldcodger@anyoldwhere.net> wrote:
>> Malcolm wrote:
>> > 
>> > In article , Pat Gardiner 
>> >  writes
>
>> >> I will make sure the information is carefully preserved safe from
>
>> > shelves. Are you *really* that ignorant or just carried away with a 
>> > ridiculous sense of your own importance?
>> > 
>> The more I read of his posts the greater difficulty I have in believing 
>> anything he writes.  I have long considered him to be nothing more than 
>> a troll.  I am now coming to the conclusion that he is also a complete 
>> fraud.
>
>I doubt it's as cynical as that.  I assume he believes at least some of the
>tosh he retails but is simply incapable of understanding/assessing it.  It's
>very like arguing with Pearl/Lotus with the difference that Pat can handle
>arithmetic.

I'm capable enough with mathematics to work out that there are only
three of you left rash enough to post under a heading like that.

Once there were twenty or thirty posters with annual meetings in
Oxfordshire. The rest have their heads down and won't be getting
involved again in a disinformation campaign employing hatred and
defamation

They have gone , seemingly only to occasionally reappear to discuss
weather, but the minute Oz sends out a rallying call, some reappear.

So they are monitoring the group still, and sometimes contributing on
harmless subjects. They are worried and are taking the only logical
course - keeping quiet and uncontroversial.

You still have http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/faq/fmd/v2/index.html to
your collective credit, but in your name.

What's going on? Well I understand that some here have paid posts
under the Scottish Government. They must be a bit troubled to see
Salmond get involved.

..and that quote "The English can eat them if they like" is it right.
Was it really in a Scottish national paper and have I fairly reflected
the context?

Of course it is right and the contextual material is even more
alarming than I have suggested. 

Why haven't I quoted the URL? 

The text seems to have been lost in the process of newspaper
archiving, like so much material, much of which I have preserved and
secured both within and outside the UK with knowledgable friends.

I have the original URL and proof that I disseminated it with the full
text at the time of publication.

Is the Gardiner Hypothesis right?

It is certainly partly right, probably largely right and maybe even
completely right.

It is certainly right enough to ensure that a major enquiry will take
place and that there will be massive claims against anyone that by
their actions or inaction caused the deaths of so many people.

It is not very sensible to publicly attach yourself to a defamation
campaign against someone struggling to get the truth into the public
domain.

In answer to the question "Is Pat Gardiner a liar?" is obvious to
everyone here. 

If I was, such talented and numerous people would have caught me years
ago. The fact that they have to resort to abuse speaks for itself.

-- 
Regards
Pat Gardiner
Release the results of testing British pigs for MRSA and C.Diff now!
www.go-self-sufficient.com  and http://animal-epidemics.blogspot.com/



>
>Cheerio,

Pat Gardiner wrote:
> 
> In answer to the question "Is Pat Gardiner a liar?" is obvious to
> everyone here. 

Ideed.

-- 
Old Codger
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