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date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:41:25 +0100,    group: uk.net.web.authoring        back       
Anyone got *opinions* or *Do's Dont's* re: WAP issues?   
I'm going to take a look into WAP accessibility tomorrow and the method(s) 
of redirecting an iPhone. Does anybody want to throw anything useful in?

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date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:41:25 +0100   author:   dE|_

Re: Anyone got *opinions* or *Do's Dont's* re: WAP issues?   
dE|_ wrote:
> I'm going to take a look into WAP accessibility tomorrow and the method(s) 
> of redirecting an iPhone. Does anybody want to throw anything useful in?
> 
No, but if you anything interesting I would be happy to sponge off your 
work ;-)

I have a wml page set up per the instructions in "HTML for the World 
Wide Web" by Elizabeth Castro.  I get some hits on it every month but 
have no knowledge of what they are using or if they even get to see 
anything for that matter.

-- 
TK
http://www.wejuggle2.com/
There is compensation for being old.
That is not having to worry about getting old.
date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:29:53 -0500   author:   TK

Re: Anyone got *opinions* or *Do's Dont's* re: WAP issues?   
In uk.net.web.authoring, "dE|_"  wrote:

>I'm going to take a look into WAP accessibility tomorrow and the method(s) 
>of redirecting an iPhone. Does anybody want to throw anything useful in?

The iPhone uses Safari and isn't reliant on WAP.  Not sure if you were
implying it was.  For the iPhone you just need to make sure you know how
big the screen is and can handle the page being rotated to landscape.  You
can detect the phone and deliver different style sheets.

http://www.bravenewcode.com/wptouch/ is an amazingly good plugin for
wordpress which makes the blog really useable on the iphone.  You could
check their code for what and how they do it.

-- 
Tony Evans
Saving trees and wasting electrons since 1993
blog -> http://perceptionistruth.com/
olmr -> http://www.onelinemoviereviews.co.uk/
[ anything below this line wasn't written by me ]
date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:23:16 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Anyone got *opinions* or *Do's Dont's* re: WAP issues?   
"dE|_"  wrote in message 
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> I'm going to take a look into WAP accessibility tomorrow and the method(s) 
> of redirecting an iPhone. Does anybody want to throw anything useful in?

Don't most phones these days accept HTML? Obviously you might want to change 
the content/style of your site if it's visited by a mobile but even that's 
fraught as I know some devices are capable of displaying for more than we 
sometimes give credit for.

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date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:18:47 +0100   author:   +mrcakey

Re: Anyone got *opinions* or *Do's Dont's* re: WAP issues?   
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:23:16 +0100, Tony 
wrote:

>>I'm going to take a look into WAP accessibility tomorrow and the method(s) 
>>of redirecting an iPhone. Does anybody want to throw anything useful in?
>
>The iPhone uses Safari and isn't reliant on WAP.  Not sure if you were
>implying it was.  For the iPhone you just need to make sure you know how
>big the screen is and can handle the page being rotated to landscape.  You
>can detect the phone and deliver different style sheets.

Remember that they won't run flash either. :(

B*stards...
-- 
Geoff Berrow
It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Put thecat out to email
date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 11:26:16 +0100   author:   Geoff Berrow

Re: Anyone got *opinions* or *Do's Dont's* re: WAP issues?   
"+mrcakey"  wrote in message 
news:h8vj9e$89u$1@news.albasani.net...
> "dE|_"  wrote in message 
> news:9xusm.290894$RV1.44228@newsfe26.ams2...
>> I'm going to take a look into WAP accessibility tomorrow and the 
>> method(s) of redirecting an iPhone. Does anybody want to throw anything 
>> useful in?
>
> Don't most phones these days accept HTML? Obviously you might want to 
> change the content/style of your site if it's visited by a mobile but even 
> that's fraught as I know some devices are capable of displaying for more 
> than we sometimes give credit for.

Yes, I am going to run my initial test on crackguitar (as usual) with a mini 
version. ie cut the masses of worldwide tuition out and just keep local 
business promo, making for a small screen nav menu.
Script guy Ben says he's come across a bit of PHP that sits on every page 
and talks to the browser about personal issues but I've not got cracking 
yet.

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======= dE|_ =======
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www.crackguitar.com
Fender~Photoshop~Markup
date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:41:25 +0100   author:   dE|_

By the way Geoff   
"Geoff Berrow"  wrote in message 
news:00o6b5tb9nhooaaih4h9kv8dkgg2mm2l3i@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:23:16 +0100, Tony 
> wrote:
>
>>>I'm going to take a look into WAP accessibility tomorrow and the 
>>>method(s)
>>>of redirecting an iPhone. Does anybody want to throw anything useful in?
>>
>>The iPhone uses Safari and isn't reliant on WAP.  Not sure if you were
>>implying it was.  For the iPhone you just need to make sure you know how
>>big the screen is and can handle the page being rotated to landscape.  You
>>can detect the phone and deliver different style sheets.
>
> Remember that they won't run flash either. :(
>
> B*stards...

Nice one for keeping out of the last thread mate >:(
date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:28:47 +0100   author:   dE|_

Re: Anyone got *opinions* or *Do's Dont's* re: WAP issues?   
"Tony"  wrote in message 
news:h8uga8$gm4$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> In uk.net.web.authoring, "dE|_"  wrote:
>
>>I'm going to take a look into WAP accessibility tomorrow and the method(s)
>>of redirecting an iPhone. Does anybody want to throw anything useful in?
>
> The iPhone uses Safari and isn't reliant on WAP.  Not sure if you were
> implying it was.  For the iPhone you just need to make sure you know how
> big the screen is and can handle the page being rotated to landscape.  You
> can detect the phone and deliver different style sheets.
<snip the WordPress help>

http://www.iphonecompatible.net/design-tips-tools/iphone-safari-screen-dimensions-layout/

I doubt sites containing glamorous sized display images are going to work 
down to 356w by changing the style sheet, unless the display is any good at 
it's own image resizing. eg; img {size: 33%}

The single best CSS controllable method then would be entirely sheet defined 
BGimages of appropriate sizes behind transparent gifs giving no resize 
quality loss. Anybody gone that far yet?

(My biggest problem with CrackG is I don't think I can just swap a style 
sheet for the software generated drop-menu. I'd rather create a brief nav 
strip for a window that small anyway.)

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======= dE|_ =======
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www.crackguitar.com
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date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 14:03:10 +0100   author:   dE|_

Re: By the way Geoff   
On Fri, 18 Sep 2009 13:28:47 +0100, "dE|_"
 wrote:

>
>Nice one for keeping out of the last thread mate >:( 

I play bass in a bluegrass band - what makes you think I know anything
about tablature?  :P
-- 
Geoff Berrow
It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Put thecat out to email
date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:29:24 +0100   author:   Geoff Berrow

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