I have finally got around to experimenting (with some sub-domains) with the
C mail servers, and hence the various webmail interfaces. 

Suppose I go to the insecure logon page:

  http://blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk.mail.aaisp.net.uk/ 


There I'm asked for the email address and password.  So, it appears I have
to type something like:

  mailboxname@blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk

into the address field.  Since I'm on a webpage whose URL is specific to me,
it seems to me that it would be sensible only to have to type:

  mailboxname

in that field.  But this doesn't seem to work.



Having said that, I really don't want to have to type anything into the
email address field.  What would be a lot more useful would be being able to
store a set of mailbox-specific URLs in my bookmarks, eg like:

http://blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk.mail.aaisp.net.uk/fast.cgi?bx=mailboxname


Does something like this already exist?

(I know I could look at the source of the login page and try to work out
what the 'action' taken by the form is for either SquirrelMail or RoundCube
login, but I'm a long way from being an expert at what all that means, and
in any case I'd like a /supported/ method of doing this rather than one I
work out for myself, in case you change the internal workings. 


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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
> I have finally got around to experimenting (with some sub-domains) with the
> C mail servers, and hence the various webmail interfaces. 
> 
> Suppose I go to the insecure logon page:
> 
>   http://blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk.mail.aaisp.net.uk/ 
> 
> 
> There I'm asked for the email address and password.  So, it appears I have
> to type something like:
> 
>   mailboxname@blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk
> 
> into the address field.  Since I'm on a webpage whose URL is specific to me,
> it seems to me that it would be sensible only to have to type:
> 
>   mailboxname
> 
> in that field.  But this doesn't seem to work.
> 


N, it needs to be the email address.

> Having said that, I really don't want to have to type anything into the
> email address field.  What would be a lot more useful would be being able to
> store a set of mailbox-specific URLs in my bookmarks, eg like:
> 
> http://blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk.mail.aaisp.net.uk/fast.cgi?bx=mailboxname
> 
> 
> Does something like this already exist?

No, but I could look in to it...

> (I know I could look at the source of the login page and try to work out
> what the 'action' taken by the form is for either SquirrelMail or RoundCube
> login, but I'm a long way from being an expert at what all that means, and
> in any case I'd like a /supported/ method of doing this rather than one I
> work out for myself, in case you change the internal workings. 
> 
> 

-- 
Andrew

Andrew Hearn  wrote:

> Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:

> > Having said that, I really don't want to have to type anything into the
> > email address field.  What would be a lot more useful would be being
> > able to store a set of mailbox-specific URLs in my bookmarks, eg like:
> > 
> >
http://blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk.mail.aaisp.net.uk/fast.cgi?bx=mailboxname
> > 
> > 
> > Does something like this already exist?
> 
> No, but I could look in to it...

I'd be very grateful...

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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
> Andrew Hearn  wrote:
> 
>> Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
> 
>>> Having said that, I really don't want to have to type anything into the
>>> email address field.  What would be a lot more useful would be being
>>> able to store a set of mailbox-specific URLs in my bookmarks, eg like:
>>>
>>>
> http://blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk.mail.aaisp.net.uk/fast.cgi?bx=mailboxname
>>>
>>> Does something like this already exist?
>> No, but I could look in to it...
> 
> I'd be very grateful...
> 

Something line this?

 http://g.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk/front.php?email=you@domain

(It's only for testing at the moment, and only on the G server)

Andrew Hearn  wrote:

> Something line this?
> 
>  http://g.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk/front.php?email=you@domain
> 
> (It's only for testing at the moment, and only on the G server)

Something like that indeed.  

I know about the A, B and C servers, but what's G?  If this makes it into
real use, would we need to know which server we were on to use it? 

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In article <hcv0jm$bpa$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "Andrew Hearn" 
wrote:

> 
> Something line this?
> 
>  http://g.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk/front.php?email=you@domain
> 
> (It's only for testing at the moment, and only on the G server)

Works for me :-)

How about allowing the inclusion of the password in the link as an 
option?  This would save having to use an unknown keyboard (with 
possible keylogger present?) when using a USB stick on a public machine. 
The link can be hidden, using %nn, etc. as with the account page.  

Might be an idea to allow preselection of the Webmail program and 
optional use of the secure link?

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Jeremy Nicoll - news posts wrote:
> Andrew Hearn  wrote:
> 
>> Something line this?
>>
>>  http://g.hopeless.aaisp.net.uk/front.php?email=you@domain
>>
>> (It's only for testing at the moment, and only on the G server)
> 
> Something like that indeed.  
> 
> I know about the A, B and C servers, but what's G?  If this makes it into
> real use, would we need to know which server we were on to use it? 
> 


I've added password to this, the front.php file is now gone, as it's
incorporated in to the front page of webmail (see the notes at the bottom)

eg:
http://blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk.mail.aaisp.net.uk/?email=you@whatever.com&password=xxx

The 'C' email service is infact multiple machines, D, E, F, G,
H.hopeless as well as a bunch of spam checking servers - you don't
really need to know about the servers, as DNS directs you to the one to
use.

Hope this helps.

Andrew.

In article <hdgr1i$i6d$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "Andrew Hearn" 
wrote:
 
> I've added password to this, the front.php file is now gone, as it's
> incorporated in to the front page of webmail (see the notes at the bottom)
> 
> eg:
> http://blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk.mail.aaisp.net.uk/?
email=you@whatever.com&password=xxx

Works fine for me, thanks.  Now I'm waiting to try it from a foreign 
connection :-)

> The 'C' email service is infact multiple machines, D, E, F, G,
> H.hopeless as well as a bunch of spam checking servers - you don't
> really need to know about the servers, as DNS directs you to the one to
> use.

Sometimes, when working directly, I've found leaving the translation of 
mail.mydomain by AAISP results in a route that fails to go through to 
the C email service (.19) resulting in a timeout (this also confirmed by 
tracert). Locally translating it to the address of one of the other 
members of the C cluster (.14 to .18) works fine.  Maybe this is fixed 
now but it's nice to have the option...

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John W
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Andrew Hearn  wrote:

> I've added password to this, the front.php file is now gone, as it's
> incorporated in to the front page of webmail (see the notes at the bottom)
> 
> eg:
>
http://blue.wingsandbeaks.org.uk.mail.aaisp.net.uk/?email=you@whatever.com&password=xxx
> 
> The 'C' email service is infact multiple machines, D, E, F, G, H.hopeless
> as well as a bunch of spam checking servers - you don't really need to
> know about the servers, as DNS directs you to the one to use.
> 
> Hope this helps.

Thank you very much!

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