Hi
It may be that this isn't the best group for discussing the subject. If 
there is a better one (uk.media.home-cinema looks dead as does 
rec.video.dvd.players), let me know.
Is there much difference in the picture quality or operation between the 
Sony BDPS360 and BDPS560? From my research, the older BDPS550 had the 
advantage of a 7.1 analog output, but this is gone on the 560. Couldn't care 
less about WiFi.
It'd be driving a Panasonic HD (720p) projector with about 100" diagonal 
image, if that makes any difference.
Ta.

"Grumps"  wrote in message 
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> It'd be driving a Panasonic HD (720p) projector with about 100" diagonal 
> image, if that makes any difference.

 Can't it do better than that my old Panasonic can.

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David wrote:
> "Grumps"  wrote in message
> news:7l7s7fF3corqnU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>> It'd be driving a Panasonic HD (720p) projector with about 100"
>> diagonal image, if that makes any difference.
>
> Can't it do better than that my old Panasonic can.

Your old Panasonic what?
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Grumps wrote:
> Hi
> It may be that this isn't the best group for discussing the subject. If 
> there is a better one (uk.media.home-cinema looks dead as does 
> rec.video.dvd.players), let me know.
> Is there much difference in the picture quality or operation between the 
> Sony BDPS360 and BDPS560? From my research, the older BDPS550 had the 
> advantage of a 7.1 analog output, but this is gone on the 560. Couldn't care 
> less about WiFi.
> It'd be driving a Panasonic HD (720p) projector with about 100" diagonal 
> image, if that makes any difference.
> Ta.
> 
> 

I've no experince with the Sony stuff, but if you are looking for a 
top-end BD player, then you probably should consider the OPPO BDP-83.

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Grumps wrote:
> Couldn't care less about WiFi.

You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,

However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games console, and 
that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses, including BBCi player, 
which means you can watch such content full screen and on your telly !


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"Adrian"  wrote in message 
news:2c-dnVs5JJEEm3LXnZ2dnUVZ8kydnZ2d@brightview.com...
> David wrote:
>> "Grumps"  wrote in message
>> news:7l7s7fF3corqnU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>> It'd be driving a Panasonic HD (720p) projector with about 100"
>>> diagonal image, if that makes any difference.
>>
>> Can't it do better than that my old Panasonic can.
>
> Your old Panasonic what?
> -- 

Projector!

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"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
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> Grumps wrote:
>> Couldn't care less about WiFi.
>
> You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,
>
> However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games console, 
> and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses, including BBCi 
> player, which means you can watch such content full screen and on your 
> telly !
>
>

Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?

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In message <hcn8af$msm$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Ron Lowe 
 wrote
>
>I've no experince with the Sony stuff, but if you are looking for a 
>top-end BD player, then you probably should consider the OPPO BDP-83.
>


  I have a Sony (BDP-S350) and I'm not that impressed with it. It is SO 
SLOW loading BR disks and has a poor user interface.
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I would never have thought of using a "games" unit but now I have had
time to play with a Playstation 3 it is so flexible and does so many
things well, I would certainly buy one. One big annoyance for me as an
installer was that it would only output sound to one set of outputs at
a time so it was difficult to set it up as an audio "jukebox" and to
feed an HDMI TV etc all at once but the recent software download has
fixed that.
Very good Blue Ray player, and picture viewer and pretty good iPlayer
as well.

In message <hcnchg$79v$2@news.albasani.net>, David 
 writes
>
>
>"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:7l8muuF3bg1koU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Grumps wrote:
>>> Couldn't care less about WiFi.
>>
>> You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,
>>
>> However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games 
>>console,  and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses, 
>>including BBCi  player, which means you can watch such content full 
>>screen and on your  telly !
>>
>>
>
>Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?
>

The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.

You can get some players that are multi-region for DVD and a few that 
are for both DVD and BD, but they are definitely in the minority. Have a 
look at somewhere like www.multiregionmagic.co.uk (no connection, other 
than having bought a DVD player off them years ago, but thinking of 
getting a multi-region BD player off them at some stage).
-- 
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In article <o$B$JrBJL+7KFwMy@virgin.net>,
   Sean Black  wrote:
> In message <hcnchg$79v$2@news.albasani.net>, David 
>  writes
> >
> >
> >"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
> >news:7l8muuF3bg1koU1@mid.individual.net...
> >> Grumps wrote:
> >>> Couldn't care less about WiFi.
> >>
> >> You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,

Not if you connect with ethernet which is faster and far more reliable.

> >> However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games 
> >>console,  and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses, 
> >>including BBCi  player, which means you can watch such content full 
> >>screen and on your  telly !
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?
> >

> The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.

It has a few others like

No DTS Re-encode.
No 7.1 analogue outputs
Noisy
Horrible games remote control
Ugly and then some.
Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake. 

Some of these could have changed with the latest version I've not checked.

But its horses for courses there is no universal solution but I think the
OPPO BD83 gets closer than anything else.

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:36:35 +0000 (GMT), Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

>In article <o$B$JrBJL+7KFwMy@virgin.net>,
>   Sean Black  wrote:
>> In message <hcnchg$79v$2@news.albasani.net>, David 
>>  writes
>> >
>> >
>> >"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
>> >news:7l8muuF3bg1koU1@mid.individual.net...
>> >> Grumps wrote:
>> >>> Couldn't care less about WiFi.
>> >>
>> >> You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,
>
>Not if you connect with ethernet which is faster and far more reliable.
>
>> >> However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games 
>> >>console,  and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses, 
>> >>including BBCi  player, which means you can watch such content full 
>> >>screen and on your  telly !
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?
>> >
>
>> The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.
>
>It has a few others like
>
>No DTS Re-encode.
>No 7.1 analogue outputs
>Noisy
>Horrible games remote control
>Ugly and then some.
>Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake. 
>
>Some of these could have changed with the latest version I've not checked.
>
>But its horses for courses there is no universal solution but I think the
>OPPO BD83 gets closer than anything else.

I should think the PS3's power consumption would be considerably
higher than a dedicated BR player.

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On Nov 3, 8:36 am, Bob Latham <b...@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <o$B$JrBJL...@virgin.net>,
>    Sean Black  wrote:
>
> > In message <hcnchg$79...@news.albasani.net>, David
> >  writes
>
> > >"Mark Carver" <mark.car...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> > >news:7l8muuF3bg1koU1@mid.individual.net...
> > >> Grumps wrote:
> > >>> Couldn't care less about WiFi.
>
> > >> You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,
>
> Not if you connect with ethernet which is faster and far more reliable.
>
> > >> However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games
> > >>console,  and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses,
> > >>including BBCi  player, which means you can watch such content full
> > >>screen and on your  telly !
>
> > >Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?
>
> > The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.
>
> It has a few others like
>
> No DTS Re-encode.
> No 7.1 analogue outputs
> Noisy
> Horrible games remote control
> Ugly and then some.
> Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake.
>
> Some of these could have changed with the latest version I've not checked> But its horses for courses there is no universal solution but I think the
> OPPO BD83 gets closer than anything else.

But at £500 that's certainly at least £300 more than i'd be willing to
pay.

Sean Black wrote:
> In message <hcnchg$79v$2@news.albasani.net>, David
>  writes
>>
>>
>> "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:7l8muuF3bg1koU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Grumps wrote:
>>>> Couldn't care less about WiFi.
>>>
>>> You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for
>>> it, etc, However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games
>>> console,  and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses,
>>> including BBCi  player, which means you can watch such content full
>>> screen and on your  telly !
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?
>>
>
> The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.
>
> You can get some players that are multi-region for DVD and a few that
> are for both DVD and BD, but they are definitely in the minority.
> Have a look at somewhere like www.multiregionmagic.co.uk (no
> connection, other than having bought a DVD player off them years ago,
> but thinking of getting a multi-region BD player off them at some
> stage).

All the multi-region BD players I've seen are about £150 more than simple 
Zone B models, it may be cheaper to import a Zone A player from the US and 
have one of each.
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:23:23 -0000
"Adrian"  wrote:
>All the multi-region BD players I've seen are about £150 more than simple 
>Zone B models, it may be cheaper to import a Zone A player from the US and 
>have one of each.

It does make me wonder if BD zoning was a genuine attempt to combat piracy
or just a convenient way to make a bit of extra cash for the player
manufacturers.

B2003

Bob Latham wrote:

> Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake. 
> 

That's an issue I've got with something else - an original XBOX 
installed just for running XMBC.

At the moment it's very well hidden away when my young nephew visits, 
for otherwise he'll soon be pestering for playing games on it. This (and 
fan noise issues) almost invites me to consider recasing it in something 
more suitable ...

... but for the effort in doing that I may as well build myself a proper 
media PC server.

Or the other plan is to leave it as it is so that when he eventually 
sees it, those games on the XBOX will be so uncool he'll no longer have 
an interest in playing them!

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In message <50b4516d9fbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham 
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> writes
>In article <o$B$JrBJL+7KFwMy@virgin.net>,
>   Sean Black  wrote:
>> In message <hcnchg$79v$2@news.albasani.net>, David
>>  writes
>> >
>> >
>> >"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> >news:7l8muuF3bg1koU1@mid.individual.net...
>> >> Grumps wrote:
>> >>> Couldn't care less about WiFi.
>> >>
>> >> You might want to when it comes to getting software upgrades for it, etc,
>
>Not if you connect with ethernet which is faster and far more reliable.
>
>> >> However the best Blu-Ray player is reckoned to be the PS3 Games
>> >>console,  and that has the advantage of other 'multimedia' uses,
>> >>including BBCi  player, which means you can watch such content full
>> >>screen and on your  telly !
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Will this, and the others do Multi Region DVD and/or BD?
>> >
>
>> The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.
>
>It has a few others like
>
>No DTS Re-encode.
>No 7.1 analogue outputs

Route all my BD audio to my amp via HDMI, doesn't bitstream it (the new 
slimmer version does, I believe) only downside to that is I don't get 
the nice "True HD" or "DTS HD-MA" indicators lighting up on my amp :-) 
Still sounds the same though, so no problem.

>Noisy

I know a lot of people say this, but I must have got lucky, as it's 
pretty much silent, can't hear it at all unless I go right up to it. 
Maybe the fan isn't working ;-)

>Horrible games remote control

I've got the BD remote for it, which is fine.

>Ugly and then some.

Not bothered what it looks like.

>Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake.
>
It loads a hell of a lot quicker than the Samsung standalone that I had 
previously, it plays everything I've thrown at it with no problems at 
all (unlike the Sammy) and it's handy for streaming all sorts of 
downloaded stuff too. Far from just a "kid's games machine" IMO.

>Some of these could have changed with the latest version I've not checked.
>
>But its horses for courses there is no universal solution but I think the
>OPPO BD83 gets closer than anything else.
>

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In message <hcp7pc$54t$1@aioe.org>, boltar2003@yahoo.co.uk writes
>On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 12:23:23 -0000
>"Adrian"  wrote:
>>All the multi-region BD players I've seen are about £150 more than simple
>>Zone B models, it may be cheaper to import a Zone A player from the US and
>>have one of each.
>
>It does make me wonder if BD zoning was a genuine attempt to combat piracy
>or just a convenient way to make a bit of extra cash for the player
>manufacturers.
>
That's exactly what it is IMO. A lot of discs are region-free anyway.

I'd thought about going the two player route myself, but it'd be so much 
more hassle should anything go wrong with the Region A model and to be 
honest, I doubt you'd get much for £150 anyway, especially if you have 
to take import duty etc... into account.
-- 
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Bob Latham wrote:

>> The PS3 won't, which as far as I'm concerned is it's only downside.
> 
> It has a few others like
> 
> No DTS Re-encode.
> No 7.1 analogue outputs
> Noisy

Not particularly...

> Horrible games remote control

Not if you use the blu-ray remote. It looks like any normal Sony remote.

> Ugly and then some.

Well that's a matter of taste. There are too versions now as well.

> Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake. 

Everyone I know with a PS3 is in their 30s...

Mark wrote:

> 
> I should think the PS3's power consumption would be considerably
> higher than a dedicated BR player.
> 

Depends which version you have, the new slim version is less power-hungry.

>>> Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake.

>>Everyone I know with a PS3 is in their 30s...

Great games machine - get Uncharted 2

On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:38:12 +0000, chunkyoldcortina
 wrote:

>Mark wrote:
>
>> 
>> I should think the PS3's power consumption would be considerably
>> higher than a dedicated BR player.
>> 
>
>Depends which version you have, the new slim version is less power-hungry.

I'm sure it's less power hungry than its predecessor, but more power
hungry than a standalone player.  For example:

Latest PS3    = 70W
Sony BDP-S760 = 32W

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On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:02:39 +0000
Mark <i@dontgetlotsofspamanymore.invalid> wrote:
>I'm sure it's less power hungry than its predecessor, but more power
>hungry than a standalone player.  For example:
>
>Latest PS3    = 70W
>Sony BDP-S760 = 32W

Does the PS3 have a dedicated decoder chip or is it all done in software on
the main CPUs? If it doesn't then it would use more power to play a disc.

B2003

chunkyoldcortina wrote:

>> Horrible games remote control
> 
> Not if you use the blu-ray remote. It looks like any normal Sony remote.
> 


I *really* dislike the lack of a power button on the remote.

If the screen's been powered down, you have to try to remember an 
obscure sequence of keystrokes, ( pres-'n'-hold the PS button, X, X. : 
obvious, huh? )which sometimes doesn't work: it depends what state it 
was left in.

It's like trying to power-down a PC using the mouse, blind.

Like a PC, you can force a shutdown by holding the power button on the 
console till it beeps and finally gives in.

But really: I expect a power ( or stby ) button on the remote of a BD 
player!

-- 
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In article <hcpbn1$q17$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>,
   chunkyoldcortina  wrote:
> Bob Latham wrote:

> > Noisy

> Not particularly...

They are somewhat famous for being noisy.


> > Its a kid's games machine for heavens sake. 

> Everyone I know with a PS3 is in their 30s...

Physically? :-)

Bob.

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In article
,
   Mike  wrote:
> On Nov 3, 8:36 am, Bob Latham <b...@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > But its horses for courses there is no universal solution but I think
> > the OPPO BD83 gets closer than anything else.

> But at £500 that's certainly at least £300 more than I'd be willing to
> pay.

Indeed. The point I was trying to make was that the PS3 is wonderful if it
does all you want but if it doesn't then ...... 

Personally it would be either the OPPO or if I didn't wish to spend
anything like that money the LG BD390 offers a lot for the money which is
why the online stores sell their batches in an hour or two each time they
get some. 

As I said, horses for courses.


Bob.

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