guitierrez  wrote:
> "Fish Supper"  wrote in
> news:sfOdncFV6JuT1GDXnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com: 
> 
> 
> > They could start by accepting only the number of tickets which are
> > requested by official supporters clubs and making sure the tickets
> > are
> > handed out to the OSCs. If there is trouble, 
> 
> I think we have passed the point of regulating for the 'what ifs'.
> There 
> can be no more trouble - end of story. All tickets must be allocated
> by 
> seat number and can only be picked up at Ibrox in person once a valid 
> passport is shown. This will be copied and held on file and can then
> be 
> accessed via PDA by stewards - paid for by the club - and
> cross-referenced 
> to ensure that those who picked up the tickets are those who present 
> themselves at the stadium. Anyone who has no ticket - or who has a
> ticket 
> not allocated to them will be set aside and transported the the
> airport by 
> Strathclyde Police (again, there at the club's expense).

The club cannot stop someone travelling to whatever country and causing
trouble though

"Moody Marco"  wrote in message 
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> guitierrez  wrote:
>> "Fish Supper"  wrote in
>> news:sfOdncFV6JuT1GDXnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com:
>>
>>
>> > They could start by accepting only the number of tickets which are
>> > requested by official supporters clubs and making sure the tickets
>> > are
>> > handed out to the OSCs. If there is trouble,
>>
>> I think we have passed the point of regulating for the 'what ifs'.
>> There
>> can be no more trouble - end of story. All tickets must be allocated
>> by
>> seat number and can only be picked up at Ibrox in person once a valid
>> passport is shown. This will be copied and held on file and can then
>> be
>> accessed via PDA by stewards - paid for by the club - and
>> cross-referenced
>> to ensure that those who picked up the tickets are those who present
>> themselves at the stadium. Anyone who has no ticket - or who has a
>> ticket
>> not allocated to them will be set aside and transported the the
>> airport by
>> Strathclyde Police (again, there at the club's expense).
>
> The club cannot stop someone travelling to whatever country and causing
> trouble though

True enough - but they can, if they want to, practically ensure that any 
trouble there is, does not happen inside the stadium. Some good ideas there 
by guitierrez, although to ensure success they would depend on a lot of 
cooperation and organisation by the host club - and any host club would be 
quite entitled to say, away and take a running fuck tae yerselves - we'll do 
what we do for every other club, none of whom cause trouble.

Cut to the car chase - quite simply, the club has to be somewhere where the 
dregs feel uncomfortable and that will take a huge amount of work. So far, 
they haven't even seriously tried.

In article , life@sea.com says...
> 
> "Moody Marco"  wrote in message 
> news:1861883827279873464.930072yeah-right.com@news-europe.giganews.com...
> > guitierrez  wrote:
> >> "Fish Supper"  wrote in
> >> news:sfOdncFV6JuT1GDXnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com:
> >>
> >>
> >> > They could start by accepting only the number of tickets which are
> >> > requested by official supporters clubs and making sure the tickets
> >> > are
> >> > handed out to the OSCs. If there is trouble,
> >>
> >> I think we have passed the point of regulating for the 'what ifs'.
> >> There
> >> can be no more trouble - end of story. All tickets must be allocated
> >> by
> >> seat number and can only be picked up at Ibrox in person once a valid
> >> passport is shown. This will be copied and held on file and can then
> >> be
> >> accessed via PDA by stewards - paid for by the club - and
> >> cross-referenced
> >> to ensure that those who picked up the tickets are those who present
> >> themselves at the stadium. Anyone who has no ticket - or who has a
> >> ticket
> >> not allocated to them will be set aside and transported the the
> >> airport by
> >> Strathclyde Police (again, there at the club's expense).
> >
> > The club cannot stop someone travelling to whatever country and causing
> > trouble though
> 
> True enough - but they can, if they want to, practically ensure that any 
> trouble there is, does not happen inside the stadium. Some good ideas there 
> by guitierrez, although to ensure success they would depend on a lot of 
> cooperation and organisation by the host club - and any host club would be 
> quite entitled to say, away and take a running fuck tae yerselves - we'll do 
> what we do for every other club, none of whom cause trouble.
> 
> Cut to the car chase - quite simply, the club has to be somewhere where the 
> dregs feel uncomfortable and that will take a huge amount of work. So far, 
> they haven't even seriously tried. 

The morononic element will hardly feel worried especially given the fact 
that personally invited guests of Rangers who brought shame on the club at 
a closed doors Euro tie in Italy were never named and shamed.

"Jim Mason"  wrote in 
message news:MPG.2568d39baf5a7c67989ab5@news.individual.net...
> In article , life@sea.com says...
>>
>> "Moody Marco"  wrote in message
>> news:1861883827279873464.930072yeah-right.com@news-europe.giganews.com...
>> > guitierrez  wrote:
>> >> "Fish Supper"  wrote in
>> >> news:sfOdncFV6JuT1GDXnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > They could start by accepting only the number of tickets which are
>> >> > requested by official supporters clubs and making sure the tickets
>> >> > are
>> >> > handed out to the OSCs. If there is trouble,
>> >>
>> >> I think we have passed the point of regulating for the 'what ifs'.
>> >> There
>> >> can be no more trouble - end of story. All tickets must be allocated
>> >> by
>> >> seat number and can only be picked up at Ibrox in person once a valid
>> >> passport is shown. This will be copied and held on file and can then
>> >> be
>> >> accessed via PDA by stewards - paid for by the club - and
>> >> cross-referenced
>> >> to ensure that those who picked up the tickets are those who present
>> >> themselves at the stadium. Anyone who has no ticket - or who has a
>> >> ticket
>> >> not allocated to them will be set aside and transported the the
>> >> airport by
>> >> Strathclyde Police (again, there at the club's expense).
>> >
>> > The club cannot stop someone travelling to whatever country and causing
>> > trouble though
>>
>> True enough - but they can, if they want to, practically ensure that any
>> trouble there is, does not happen inside the stadium. Some good ideas 
>> there
>> by guitierrez, although to ensure success they would depend on a lot of
>> cooperation and organisation by the host club - and any host club would 
>> be
>> quite entitled to say, away and take a running fuck tae yerselves - we'll 
>> do
>> what we do for every other club, none of whom cause trouble.
>>
>> Cut to the car chase - quite simply, the club has to be somewhere where 
>> the
>> dregs feel uncomfortable and that will take a huge amount of work. So 
>> far,
>> they haven't even seriously tried.
>
> The morononic element will hardly feel worried especially given the fact
> that personally invited guests of Rangers who brought shame on the club at
> a closed doors Euro tie in Italy were never named and shamed.

And the point of your post is?