Just reading up on the BBC site about what WS has been saying about the club 
and how the Bank is running the club etc and that he may leave in January 
but is waiting until a new owner arrives to see what happens.I thought 
though when DM left that a new guy had come in,wasnt that a new owner or was 
that purely a club chairman without ownership?

Jim Mason wrote:
> liam.shaw.glas...@googlemail.com says...
> > Jonathan Bryce wrote:
> > > liam67 wrote:
> > > > It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also> > > > the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
> > > > Walter Smith came out and said they were.
>
> > > I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
> > > overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good reason
> > > for them.  So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
> > > they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.
>
> > Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
> > Murray's fault though.
>
> Really? Hugh Adams disagrees.

Maybe there will be lots of revisionism since Murray is no longer his
brother's keeper, or what ever kinda jargon they use...

"Jonbhoy" wrote:
> "liam67" wrote
> > Jonathan Bryce wrote:
> >> liam67 wrote:
> >> > It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
> >> > the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea why
> >> > Walter Smith came out and said they were.
>
> >> I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
> >> overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good
> >> reason
> >> for them.  So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce but
> >> they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.
>
> > Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
> > Murray's fault though. Even with his business instincts he couldn't
> > have predicted this global financial crisis.
>
> Yeah it just seemed a bit confusing because i guess i saw in most places
> that the guy coming in was DM's replacement so i took that as meaning owner
> as well and not just Chairman so was a bit surprised when all this financial
> talk started but as has been said i guess he is only there as chairman.
>
> > Wasn't the threat of bank involvement made when Celtic were on the
> > brink before McCann arrived? tbh I'm glad those bad old days are
> > behind the Celts PLC...
>
> Believe it was.Was a horrible day that and to be honest being pretty young
> back then i can remember thinking it was not really that bad until the very
> last day when everyone was in the car park worried.I didnt realise how close
> we actually got to going tits up.Thats why although people slate the guy i
> am still grateful he stepped in.Yes it was more a business decision rather
> than a supporter stepping in but i dont think we had any other options at
> that time from memory.

Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)

tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...

I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)

liam67 wrote:

> Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)

Well I was.

> tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
> tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
> the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
> report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...
> 
> I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
> genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
> decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
> though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
> taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
> Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)

Bankruptcy would mean starting all over again in the junior leagues, or
alternatively everyone finds a new team to support, which I suppose would
most likely be Hibs.

I'm sure there must be a rich Rangers supporter somewhere who would take the
club over and bail it out, or alternatively they could sell shares to fans
like Celtic did.

"liam67"  wrote in message
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Jim Mason wrote:
> liam.shaw.glas...@googlemail.com says...
> > Jonathan Bryce wrote:
> > > liam67 wrote:
> > > > It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
> > > > the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea
> > > > why
> > > > Walter Smith came out and said they were.
>
> > > I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
> > > overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good
> > > reason
> > > for them. So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce
> > > but
> > > they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.
>
> > Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
> > Murray's fault though.
>
> Really? Hugh Adams disagrees.

Maybe there will be lots of revisionism since Murray is no longer his
brother's keeper, or what ever kinda jargon they use...

Who are `they` who use said jargon?

"bizenya" wrote:
> "liam67" wrote
> Jim Mason wrote:
> > liam.shaw.glas...@googlemail.com says...
> > > Jonathan Bryce wrote:
> > > > liam67 wrote:
> > > > > It's all abit confusing at the minute, but I think your right. Also,
> > > > > the bank are saying they aren't running the club, so I've no idea
> > > > > why
> > > > > Walter Smith came out and said they were.
>
> > > > I think what it means is that the bank is telling them to reduce their
> > > > overdraft and not authorising large payments unless there is a good
> > > > reason
> > > > for them. So any cheques to buy new players for example would bounce
> > > > but
> > > > they will allow salary cheques for existing players to clear.
>
> > > Cheers J. Looks like money is too tight to mention. It's not really
> > > Murray's fault though.
>
> > Really? Hugh Adams disagrees.
>
> Maybe there will be lots of revisionism since Murray is no longer his
> brother's keeper, or what ever kinda jargon they use...
>
> Who are `they` who use said jargon?

Not sure, but there are hunners of them...

Jonathan Bryce wrote:
> liam67 wrote:
> > Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)
>
> Well I was.
>
> > tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
> > tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
> > the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
> > report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...
>
> > I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
> > genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
> > decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
> > though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
> > taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
> > Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)
>
> Bankruptcy would mean starting all over again in the junior leagues, or
> alternatively everyone finds a new team to support, which I suppose would
> most likely be Hibs.
>
> I'm sure there must be a rich Rangers supporter somewhere who would take the
> club over and bail it out, or alternatively they could sell shares to fans
> like Celtic did.

They were talking about the fans taking over in the newspaper this
morning. David Edgar was cock-a-hoop about the prospect. Oh,
dear...you can imagine sensible gers are hiding behind the couch at
the prospect of that. Rightly so if the Rangers fans were running the
club, for example the Rangers Supporters Trust. Singing the Billy Boys
would be obligatory, rather than just an option, as against Hibs the
other week...

"liam67"  wrote in message 
news:ead90358-66b1-4890-b436-29c1565bcb3b@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> Jonathan Bryce wrote:
>> liam67 wrote:
>> > Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)
>>
>> Well I was.
>>
>> > tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
>> > tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
>> > the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
>> > report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...
>>
>> > I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
>> > genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
>> > decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
>> > though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
>> > taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
>> > Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)
>>
>> Bankruptcy would mean starting all over again in the junior leagues, or
>> alternatively everyone finds a new team to support, which I suppose would
>> most likely be Hibs.
>>
>> I'm sure there must be a rich Rangers supporter somewhere who would take the
>> club over and bail it out, or alternatively they could sell shares to fans
>> like Celtic did.
>
> They were talking about the fans taking over in the newspaper this
> morning. David Edgar was cock-a-hoop about the prospect. Oh,
> dear...you can imagine sensible gers are hiding behind the couch at
> the prospect of that. Rightly so if the Rangers fans were running the
> club, for example the Rangers Supporters Trust. Singing the Billy Boys
> would be obligatory, rather than just an option, as against Hibs the
> other week...

The tune being sung at games is a tune that is perfectly reasonably included on 
official club cds - Don't try and tar our away fans with the brush that blemishes 
your own away fans reputation.

And the "Greatest fans in the world bar the away support and a minority who support 
terrorist organisations and Regicide, but we support them because they are an 
oppressed people and we feel part of that oppression because my great great grampa 
was Irish alledgedly" award goes to...

On 2 Nov, 15:27, "bizenya"  wrote:
> "liam67"  wrote in message
>
> news:ead90358-66b1-4890-b436-29c1565bcb3b@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Jonathan Bryce wrote:
> >> liam67 wrote:
> >> > Where you young back then jonbhoy...? ;)
>
> >> Well I was.
>
> >> > tbh I think the media loved us being in crisis in fufilled all the
> >> > tired old stereotypes as us as pawpers...the giro dome....we urnae no
> >> > the people...etc...but Spiers was laying it on abit thick in his match
> >> > report today...I think he called Rangers cheepo's...
>
> >> > I too am grateful that McCann stepped in...I'm not sure if he was a
> >> > genius...probably not...probably maybe a few wise
> >> > decisions...bankruptcy wouldnt have been so bad for us i think
> >> > though...someone else in the Celtic diaspora would have stepped in and
> >> > taken us to Seville etc....don't forget...we're the chosen people
> >> > Jonbhoy!...even old guys like us....;)
>
> >> Bankruptcy would mean starting all over again in the junior leagues, or
> >> alternatively everyone finds a new team to support, which I suppose would
> >> most likely be Hibs.
>
> >> I'm sure there must be a rich Rangers supporter somewhere who would take the
> >> club over and bail it out, or alternatively they could sell shares to fans
> >> like Celtic did.
>
> > They were talking about the fans taking over in the newspaper this
> > morning. David Edgar was cock-a-hoop about the prospect. Oh,
> > dear...you can imagine sensible gers are hiding behind the couch at
> > the prospect of that. Rightly so if the Rangers fans were running the
> > club, for example the Rangers Supporters Trust. Singing the Billy Boys
> > would be obligatory, rather than just an option, as against Hibs the
> > other week...
>
> The tune being sung at games is a tune that is perfectly reasonably included on
> official club cds - Don't try and tar our away fans with the brush that blemishes
> your own away fans reputation.

I thought you were playing Hibs at Ibrox....you're out of touch
already mate...;)

> And the "Greatest fans in the world bar the away support and a minority who support
> terrorist organisations and Regicide, but we support them because they are an
> oppressed people and we feel part of that oppression because my great great grampa
> was Irish alledgedly" award goes to...

I actually quite like the queen...princes edward and philip are abit
weird mind you...