Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that 
Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would we 
have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he can 
deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got  a few goals. For 
the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:35:51 +0100, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy
Lappy@nufc.com> wrote:

>Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that 
>Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
>He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would we 
>have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he can 
>deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got  a few goals. For 
>the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more. 
>
considering he was the only one we had who could at least get a couple
of decent balls into the box, i couldn't agree more.

can't remember the last time duff or jonas put a decent cross in.

On 13 Aug, 16:35, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
> Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that
> Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
> He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would we
> have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he can
> deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got  a few goals. For
> the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.

Milner never really did it for us though, his deliveries were just as
good as Jonas'  rarely crossed to the far post and most of his corners
were blocked by thr man on the near post.

Maybe he has improved a bit because he doesnt play week in week out at
Villa and isnt as used as he was at NU.

Think losing Given was more of  a factor. i dont rate Harper at all.
Given might've save a few more than Harper and could've made the
difference.

Im worried MA is going to cash in on Tim Krul (and a few other players
worth a bit of cash) just before the transfer window closes.

Krul is a quality, he is tall and has a longer reach than Given or
Harper. whoever is in charge needs to make him no1. He's the only
keeper who looks strong on crosses and corners and comes out and
catches the ball (although he needs to stop coming out for every
single ball). Given isa good shot stopper but was suspect on free
kicks- Harper is ok but anyone who is happy to stay on the bench for
12years dont do it for me.

"Chris F"  wrote in message 
news:8ud885db4mjjk0s3jgn6ua8372vvbd8b32@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:35:51 +0100, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy
> Lappy@nufc.com> wrote:
>
>>Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that
>>Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
>>He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would we
>>have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he can
>>deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got  a few goals. For
>>the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.
>>
> considering he was the only one we had who could at least get a couple
> of decent balls into the box, i couldn't agree more.
>
> can't remember the last time duff or jonas put a decent cross in.

Maybe that's because Duff has been concentrating on defensive duties á la 
Villa!

"arby"  wrote in message 
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On 13 Aug, 16:35, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
> Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that
> Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
> He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would we
> have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he can
> deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got a few goals. For
> the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.

Milner never really did it for us though, his deliveries were just as
good as Jonas'  rarely crossed to the far post and most of his corners
were blocked by thr man on the near post.

Maybe he has improved a bit because he doesnt play week in week out at
Villa and isnt as used as he was at NU.

Think losing Given was more of  a factor. i dont rate Harper at all.
Given might've save a few more than Harper and could've made the
difference.

Im worried MA is going to cash in on Tim Krul (and a few other players
worth a bit of cash) just before the transfer window closes.

Krul is a quality, he is tall and has a longer reach than Given or
Harper. whoever is in charge needs to make him no1. He's the only
keeper who looks strong on crosses and corners and comes out and
catches the ball (although he needs to stop coming out for every
single ball). Given isa good shot stopper but was suspect on free
kicks- Harper is ok but anyone who is happy to stay on the bench for
12years dont do it for me.

Right. Ashley doesn't give a f**k about the club and I don't think he ever 
did.
We were just his new "gadget" which hopefully would have made him a few bob.
Wonder if he still has his shirt?

Krul, yes he does look good, but not proven over a longer period. One good 
game
may not be enough for someone to offer a decent amount for him - hopefully. 
Harper
aint getting any younger either and while he did sit on the bench all that 
time I think
that if he had wanted away, there sre more than a few clubs who would have 
been
interested. Soooo,  maybe loyalty did play a part.

On 13 Aug, 17:20, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
> "arby"  wrote in message
>
> news:032ed549-f840-481f-a7a3-9b6f8735555d@o32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On 13 Aug, 16:35, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
>
> > Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that
> > Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
> > He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would we
> > have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he can
> > deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got a few goals. For
> > the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.
>
> Milner never really did it for us though, his deliveries were just as
> good as Jonas'  rarely crossed to the far post and most of his corners
> were blocked by thr man on the near post.
>
> Maybe he has improved a bit because he doesnt play week in week out at
> Villa and isnt as used as he was at NU.
>
> Think losing Given was more of  a factor. i dont rate Harper at all.
> Given might've save a few more than Harper and could've made the
> difference.
>
> Im worried MA is going to cash in on Tim Krul (and a few other players
> worth a bit of cash) just before the transfer window closes.
>
> Krul is a quality, he is tall and has a longer reach than Given or
> Harper. whoever is in charge needs to make him no1. He's the only
> keeper who looks strong on crosses and corners and comes out and
> catches the ball (although he needs to stop coming out for every
> single ball). Given isa good shot stopper but was suspect on free
> kicks- Harper is ok but anyone who is happy to stay on the bench for
> 12years dont do it for me.
>
> Right. Ashley doesn't give a f**k about the club and I don't think he ever
> did.
> We were just his new "gadget" which hopefully would have made him a few bob.
> Wonder if he still has his shirt?
>
> Krul, yes he does look good, but not proven over a longer period. One good
> game
> may not be enough for someone to offer a decent amount for him - hopefully.
> Harper
> aint getting any younger either and while he did sit on the bench all that
> time I think
> that if he had wanted away, there sre more than a few clubs who would have
> been
> interested. Soooo,  maybe loyalty did play a part.

He played really well against Palermo a few years ago. He basically
kept us in that game as well as the game against west Brom.

Think if harper was in goal in the 2nd half, we would've lost last
sat.

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:35:51 +0100, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy
Lappy@nufc.com> wrote:

>Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that 
>Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
>He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would we 
>have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he can 
>deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got  a few goals. For 
>the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more. 
>
speaking of wingers, 4mill bid in from a prem team for Duff.

no doubt ashley will accept it and leave us even more stuffed than we
already are.

lualua or ferguson on the wing come saturday?

jesus.

"arby"  wrote in message 
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On 13 Aug, 17:20, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
> "arby"  wrote in message
>
> news:032ed549-f840-481f-a7a3-9b6f8735555d@o32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On 13 Aug, 16:35, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
>
> > Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that
> > Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
> > He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would 
> > we
> > have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he 
> > can
> > deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got a few goals. 
> > For
> > the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.
>
> Milner never really did it for us though, his deliveries were just as
> good as Jonas' rarely crossed to the far post and most of his corners
> were blocked by thr man on the near post.
>
> Maybe he has improved a bit because he doesnt play week in week out at
> Villa and isnt as used as he was at NU.
>
> Think losing Given was more of a factor. i dont rate Harper at all.
> Given might've save a few more than Harper and could've made the
> difference.
>
> Im worried MA is going to cash in on Tim Krul (and a few other players
> worth a bit of cash) just before the transfer window closes.
>
> Krul is a quality, he is tall and has a longer reach than Given or
> Harper. whoever is in charge needs to make him no1. He's the only
> keeper who looks strong on crosses and corners and comes out and
> catches the ball (although he needs to stop coming out for every
> single ball). Given isa good shot stopper but was suspect on free
> kicks- Harper is ok but anyone who is happy to stay on the bench for
> 12years dont do it for me.
>
> Right. Ashley doesn't give a f**k about the club and I don't think he ever
> did.
> We were just his new "gadget" which hopefully would have made him a few 
> bob.
> Wonder if he still has his shirt?
>
> Krul, yes he does look good, but not proven over a longer period. One good
> game
> may not be enough for someone to offer a decent amount for him - 
> hopefully.
> Harper
> aint getting any younger either and while he did sit on the bench all that
> time I think
> that if he had wanted away, there sre more than a few clubs who would have
> been
> interested. Soooo, maybe loyalty did play a part.

He played really well against Palermo a few years ago. He basically
kept us in that game as well as the game against west Brom.

Think if harper was in goal in the 2nd half, we would've lost last
sat.


It's always hard to say, as different players make different decisions, so 
something Harper
may have done could have even won the game - or he might have let six in. 
We'll never know.

"Chris F"  wrote in message 
news:41j885p2a162u2uej263g1ph32o1htvmgj@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:35:51 +0100, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy
> Lappy@nufc.com> wrote:
>
>>Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that
>>Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
>>He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would we
>>have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he can
>>deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got  a few goals. For
>>the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.
>>
> speaking of wingers, 4mill bid in from a prem team for Duff.
>
> no doubt ashley will accept it and leave us even more stuffed than we
> already are.

A way of getting his own back for the hassle the fans gave him?


> lualua or ferguson on the wing come saturday?
>

" jesus."

Could try him in a holding position in front of the back four. ;-]

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:21:34 +0100, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy
Lappy@nufc.com> wrote:

>
>"Chris F"  wrote in message 
>news:41j885p2a162u2uej263g1ph32o1htvmgj@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 16:35:51 +0100, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy
>> Lappy@nufc.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that
>>>Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
>>>He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would we
>>>have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he can
>>>deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got  a few goals. For
>>>the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.
>>>
>> speaking of wingers, 4mill bid in from a prem team for Duff.
>>
>> no doubt ashley will accept it and leave us even more stuffed than we
>> already are.
>
>A way of getting his own back for the hassle the fans gave him?
>
wouldnt shock me, the guy seems the worst businessman ever to me. if
he's really that spiteful, i'd actually happily see us drop another
division, to see the cunt lose all his money.

>
>> lualua or ferguson on the wing come saturday?
>>
>
>" jesus."
>
>Could try him in a holding position in front of the back four. ;-]
>
>
we've had enough fallen messiahs.

On Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:26:18 +0100, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy
Lappy@nufc.com> wrote:

>
>"arby"  wrote in message 
>news:9d14fd44-ee91-4ffd-b2c9-2b59f237f6c5@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
>On 13 Aug, 17:20, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
>> "arby"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:032ed549-f840-481f-a7a3-9b6f8735555d@o32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>> On 13 Aug, 16:35, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that
>> > Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
>> > He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would 
>> > we
>> > have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he 
>> > can
>> > deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got a few goals. 
>> > For
>> > the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.
>>
>> Milner never really did it for us though, his deliveries were just as
>> good as Jonas' rarely crossed to the far post and most of his corners
>> were blocked by thr man on the near post.
>>
>> Maybe he has improved a bit because he doesnt play week in week out at
>> Villa and isnt as used as he was at NU.
>>
>> Think losing Given was more of a factor. i dont rate Harper at all.
>> Given might've save a few more than Harper and could've made the
>> difference.
>>
>> Im worried MA is going to cash in on Tim Krul (and a few other players
>> worth a bit of cash) just before the transfer window closes.
>>
>> Krul is a quality, he is tall and has a longer reach than Given or
>> Harper. whoever is in charge needs to make him no1. He's the only
>> keeper who looks strong on crosses and corners and comes out and
>> catches the ball (although he needs to stop coming out for every
>> single ball). Given isa good shot stopper but was suspect on free
>> kicks- Harper is ok but anyone who is happy to stay on the bench for
>> 12years dont do it for me.
>>
>> Right. Ashley doesn't give a f**k about the club and I don't think he ever
>> did.
>> We were just his new "gadget" which hopefully would have made him a few 
>> bob.
>> Wonder if he still has his shirt?
>>
>> Krul, yes he does look good, but not proven over a longer period. One good
>> game
>> may not be enough for someone to offer a decent amount for him - 
>> hopefully.
>> Harper
>> aint getting any younger either and while he did sit on the bench all that
>> time I think
>> that if he had wanted away, there sre more than a few clubs who would have
>> been
>> interested. Soooo, maybe loyalty did play a part.
>
>He played really well against Palermo a few years ago. He basically
>kept us in that game as well as the game against west Brom.
>
>Think if harper was in goal in the 2nd half, we would've lost last
>sat.
>
>
>It's always hard to say, as different players make different decisions, so 
>something Harper
>may have done could have even won the game - or he might have let six in. 
>We'll never know. 
>
i don't buy into the krul love.

yes, he had a good 45 mins vs WBA, but 2 of his best saves, were only
required because he cocked up beforehand himself.

yes, the kid has a bright future.

is he our no1? no.

but he's not far off it.

On 13 Aug, 21:26, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
> "arby"  wrote in message
>
> news:9d14fd44-ee91-4ffd-b2c9-2b59f237f6c5@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On 13 Aug, 17:20, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "arby"  wrote in message
>
> >news:032ed549-f840-481f-a7a3-9b6f8735555d@o32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > On 13 Aug, 16:35, "Tappy Lappy" <Tappy La...@nufc.com> wrote:
>
> > > Watched Milner last night in the Holland and it just goes to show that
> > > Keegan was right when he said James was the last one he would sell.
> > > He looked the part from the moment he came on. If he had stayed, would
> > > we
> > > have got the extra point which would have kept us up? I think so as he
> > > can
> > > deliver a ball to where someone like Owen would have got a few goals.
> > > For
> > > the sake of a few millionquid, Ashley has lost a helluva lot more.
>
> > Milner never really did it for us though, his deliveries were just as
> > good as Jonas' rarely crossed to the far post and most of his corners
> > were blocked by thr man on the near post.
>
> > Maybe he has improved a bit because he doesnt play week in week out at
> > Villa and isnt as used as he was at NU.
>
> > Think losing Given was more of a factor. i dont rate Harper at all.
> > Given might've save a few more than Harper and could've made the
> > difference.
>
> > Im worried MA is going to cash in on Tim Krul (and a few other players
> > worth a bit of cash) just before the transfer window closes.
>
> > Krul is a quality, he is tall and has a longer reach than Given or
> > Harper. whoever is in charge needs to make him no1. He's the only
> > keeper who looks strong on crosses and corners and comes out and
> > catches the ball (although he needs to stop coming out for every
> > single ball). Given isa good shot stopper but was suspect on free
> > kicks- Harper is ok but anyone who is happy to stay on the bench for
> > 12years dont do it for me.
>
> > Right. Ashley doesn't give a f**k about the club and I don't think he ever
> > did.
> > We were just his new "gadget" which hopefully would have made him a few
> > bob.
> > Wonder if he still has his shirt?
>
> > Krul, yes he does look good, but not proven over a longer period. One good
> > game
> > may not be enough for someone to offer a decent amount for him -
> > hopefully.
> > Harper
> > aint getting any younger either and while he did sit on the bench all that
> > time I think
> > that if he had wanted away, there sre more than a few clubs who would have
> > been
> > interested. Soooo, maybe loyalty did play a part.
>
> He played really well against Palermo a few years ago. He basically
> kept us in that game as well as the game against west Brom.
>
> Think if harper was in goal in the 2nd half, we would've lost last
> sat.
>
> It's always hard to say, as different players make different decisions, so
> something Harper
> may have done could have even won the game - or he might have let six in.
> We'll never know.

true but his authority in coming for corners and crosses in the 6yard
box is good for our shabby defence. Thats something that I dont think
Harper does enough of.

I dont see how Harper would've done any better on the day. He was at
fault for the West brom goal anyway by flapping at the long ball.

As long as fat mike doesnt try to flog him to someone like Arsenal
this year then its good to have both fighting for the no 1 shirt.

"Chris F"  wrote in message 
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>>>
> i don't buy into the krul love.
>
> yes, he had a good 45 mins vs WBA, but 2 of his best saves, were only
> required because he cocked up beforehand himself.
>
> yes, the kid has a bright future.
>
> is he our no1? no.
>
> but he's not far off it.

I'd agree with all of that. Krul was outstanding against Palermo and there's 
no doubt he made some excellent saves to keep you in the game last Saturday. 
However, he did "flap" at the ball a couple of times but I expect to see him 
command his area with more authority as he gains experience. Harper is a 
good steady keeper who has shown loyalty to the club over the years - it 
wasn't too long ago that there was nothing to choose between himself and 
Given. You're lucky having such a great prospect as Krul in the wings.

On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 14:43:20 +0100, "Warwick Hunt"
 wrote:

>
>"Chris F"  wrote in message 
>news:cvd9855ho74evtjp4ltg4bpqpoo04ds361@4ax.com...
>>>>
>> i don't buy into the krul love.
>>
>> yes, he had a good 45 mins vs WBA, but 2 of his best saves, were only
>> required because he cocked up beforehand himself.
>>
>> yes, the kid has a bright future.
>>
>> is he our no1? no.
>>
>> but he's not far off it.
>
>I'd agree with all of that. Krul was outstanding against Palermo and there's 
>no doubt he made some excellent saves to keep you in the game last Saturday. 
>However, he did "flap" at the ball a couple of times but I expect to see him 
>command his area with more authority as he gains experience. Harper is a 
>good steady keeper who has shown loyalty to the club over the years - it 
>wasn't too long ago that there was nothing to choose between himself and 
>Given. You're lucky having such a great prospect as Krul in the wings. 

Fraser forster is a good young keeper too.

it's the only area of the squad where we're pretty well off, really!