You see, this is what I really hate about the EPL. It's  made multi 
millionaires out of people with moderate sporting skills. Christ, I'd 
believe the hype myself if someone paid me that sort of money for being 
a mediocre player at one of the smaller clubs - like my own, I'm not 
having a go at Wigan.

He went into a narcissistic "don't you know who I am" rage and broke a 
girl's nose because she objected to being groped, and yet still his 
cronies raged about his "racist" conviction on the grounds that Gerrard 
got away with a punch up?

Maybe his moronic supporters in court today could just view the 18 
months he got as "persistent foul play" when you consider his 13 
previous convictions, including violence against women, dishonesty, 
drink driving and other motoring offences. The jury found out about this 
  after the verdict, to give King the sort of fair treatment he was 
unable to give to a young girl half his size, yet worth a couple of 
dozen more than that sack of shit.

TommoCubed wrote:

> You see, this is what I really hate about the EPL.

Has Marlon King played more than half a dozen games in the prem? He did 
a good stint at, was it Watford, a few years back but ever since has 
gone awol injured when needed to score goals at a higher level.

> It's  made multi 
> millionaires out of people with moderate sporting skills. Christ, I'd 
> believe the hype myself if someone paid me that sort of money for being 
> a mediocre player at one of the smaller clubs - like my own, I'm not 
> having a go at Wigan.
> 
> He went into a narcissistic "don't you know who I am" rage and broke a 
> girl's nose because she objected to being groped, and yet still his 
> cronies raged about his "racist" conviction on the grounds that Gerrard 
> got away with a punch up?

Gerrard got away with it because nobody in his home City would convict 
him - that was a blatant miscarriage of justice. But is 'Liverpudlian' a 
race?

> 
> Maybe his moronic supporters in court  today could just view the 18
> months he got as "persistent foul play" when you consider his 13 
> previous convictions, including violence against women, dishonesty, 
> drink driving and other motoring offences. The jury found out about this 
>  after the verdict, to give King the sort of fair treatment he was 
> unable to give to a young girl half his size, yet worth a couple of 
> dozen more than that sack of shit.

nigel wrote:
> TommoCubed wrote:
> 
>> You see, this is what I really hate about the EPL.
> 
> Has Marlon King played more than half a dozen games in the prem? He did 
> a good stint at, was it Watford, a few years back but ever since has 
> gone awol injured when needed to score goals at a higher level.

Well yes - that's the point. Before his contract was torn up by Wigan 
(credit it to them BTW) he was technically a Premiership player. With a 
license to strut about and punch any woman he thought was (his words) 
"out of my league". You weren't his counsel were you Nigel? You might 
have made a better fist of it than their "mistaken identity" bullshit.

>> It's  made multi millionaires out of people with moderate sporting 
>> skills. Christ, I'd believe the hype myself if someone paid me that 
>> sort of money for being a mediocre player at one of the smaller clubs 
>> - like my own, I'm not having a go at Wigan.
>>
>> He went into a narcissistic "don't you know who I am" rage and broke a 
>> girl's nose because she objected to being groped, and yet still his 
>> cronies raged about his "racist" conviction on the grounds that 
>> Gerrard got away with a punch up?
> 
> Gerrard got away with it because nobody in his home City would convict 
> him - that was a blatant miscarriage of justice. But is 'Liverpudlian' a 
> race?

Again my point. The evidently scouser jury would've given the very same 
miscarriage of justice to anyone wearing their shirt. It's wrong to use 
the race card on this one - the offences just don't compare anyway. 
Maybe Gerrard should cough up some sort of "no win no fee" erm fee, but 
it's plainly not the same as disfiguring some young lass just because 
she knows a wanker when she sees one, and I'd think that was obvious.

TommoCubed wrote:
> Again my point. The evidently scouser jury would've given the very same 
> miscarriage of justice to anyone wearing their shirt.

I don't think so. They wouldn't have been so lenient on, say, Degen.

> It's wrong to use 
> the race card on this one - the offences just don't compare anyway. 
> Maybe Gerrard should cough up some sort of "no win no fee" erm fee, but 
> it's plainly not the same as disfiguring some young lass just because 
> she knows a wanker when she sees one, and I'd think that was obvious.

It's incredible that two members of the jury voted against finding 
Marlon King guilty.

I think they should be made to sit through replays of the trial 
continuously until they come to the right decision.

On 30 Oct, 14:45, nigel  wrote:

> It's incredible that two members of the jury voted against finding
> Marlon King guilty.
>
> I think they should be made to sit through replays of the trial
> continuously until they come to the right decision.

To be honest, they'd probably crack after sitting through a few
unedited replays of Marlon's shitter performances.

"nigel"  wrote in message 
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> TommoCubed wrote:
>> Again my point. The evidently scouser jury would've given the very same 
>> miscarriage of justice to anyone wearing their shirt.
>
> I don't think so. They wouldn't have been so lenient on, say, Degen.
>

I can only hope that Degen does something equally heinous as Mr King, 
because myself and most other Liverpool fans would love to cancel *his* 
contract. So much the better if Andriy Voronin was convicted as his 
accomplice...

nigel wrote:

> It's incredible that two members of the jury voted against finding 
> Marlon King guilty.

They were probably Bolton fans hoping we'd have to keep him.

C

CJM wrote:

> 
> "nigel"  wrote in message 
> news:ptadnZB-bpFuZnfXnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
> 
>> TommoCubed wrote:
>>
>>> Again my point. The evidently scouser jury would've given the very 
>>> same miscarriage of justice to anyone wearing their shirt.
>>
>>
>> I don't think so. They wouldn't have been so lenient on, say, Degen.
>>
> 
> I can only hope that Degen does something equally heinous as Mr King, 
> because myself and most other Liverpool fans would love to cancel *his* 
> contract. So much the better if Andriy Voronin was convicted as his 
> accomplice...

Heh.

You're psychic, aren't you!

"nigel"  wrote in message 
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> It's incredible that two members of the jury voted against finding Marlon 
> King guilty.
>
> I think they should be made to sit through replays of the trial 
> continuously until they come to the right decision.


Or why not just do away with this silly 'trial by jury' system altogether, 
and just let you decide what's right and wrong, Gay Nigel.

BTN

Sir Benjamin Nunn wrote:

> 
> "nigel"  wrote in message 
> news:ptadnZB-bpFuZnfXnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
> 
>> It's incredible that two members of the jury voted against finding 
>> Marlon King guilty.
>>
>> I think they should be made to sit through replays of the trial 
>> continuously until they come to the right decision.
> 
> 
> 
> Or why not just do away with this silly 'trial by jury' system 
> altogether, and just let you decide what's right and wrong, Gay Nigel.
> 
> BTN

Excellent idea. BLiar in prison for war crimes, Mandelcunt in prison for 
fraud, Blears in prison for fraud, McNulty in prison for fraud, Gerrard 
given 20,000 hours of community service (not to be served on a football 
pitch) for causing actual bodily harm, OJ Simpson in prison for murder....

I think you're on to something.

"nigel"  wrote in message 
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> CJM wrote:
>
>>
>> "nigel"  wrote in message 
>> news:ptadnZB-bpFuZnfXnZ2dnUVZ8qGdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
>>
>>> TommoCubed wrote:
>>>
>>>> Again my point. The evidently scouser jury would've given the very same 
>>>> miscarriage of justice to anyone wearing their shirt.
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think so. They wouldn't have been so lenient on, say, Degen.
>>>
>>
>> I can only hope that Degen does something equally heinous as Mr King, 
>> because myself and most other Liverpool fans would love to cancel *his* 
>> contract. So much the better if Andriy Voronin was convicted as his 
>> accomplice...
>
> Heh.
>
> You're psychic, aren't you!
>

Nah... merely stating the obvious and sadly-inevitable. :(

CJM wrote:

> 
> Nah... merely stating the obvious and sadly-inevitable. :(
> 

I watched the highlights on MotD and Degen actually seemed to be a 
decent stand-in for Johnson.

No excuses for Voronin though.

"nigel"  wrote in message 
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> CJM wrote:
>
>>
>> Nah... merely stating the obvious and sadly-inevitable. :(
>>
>
> I watched the highlights on MotD and Degen actually seemed to be a decent 
> stand-in for Johnson.
>

IMHO, he's not quite as effective going forward, though he does have 
reasonable pace and likes to overlap, but he's been nothing but a liability 
in defense - moreso than you could ever accuse Johnson. Ironically, although 
we are so desperate to have him in our team mid-week, he was so poorly rated 
within the club that he isn't even in the CL squad.

> No excuses for Voronin though.
>

He was a reasonable success in Germany for Hertha last season, but that 
probably says more about the Bundesliga than it does about him.

> It's incredible that two members of the jury voted against finding Marlon 
> King guilty.
>
> I think they should be made to sit through replays of the trial 
> continuously until they come to the right decision.

Were you in the nightclub watching it happen then Nigel?

You really are the cunt of the froup aren't you

phil

On 2 Nov, 20:47, "phil"  wrote:

> > It's incredible that two members of the jury voted against finding Marlon
> > King guilty.

> > I think they should be made to sit through replays of the trial
> > continuously until they come to the right decision.

> Were you in the nightclub watching it happen then Nigel?

> You really are the cunt of the froup aren't you

I thought that the club in question (Soho Revue) was still a gay club,
mostly catering for lesbians.  Anyway, it certainly isn't the average
pick-up joint.  It is right on the nasty side of Soho, just where the
whorefinders congregrate.

Anyway, I doubt King's career is over.  He might be advised to leave
the cuntry though.


Mike Hall

phil wrote:
>>It's incredible that two members of the jury voted against finding Marlon 
>>King guilty.
>>
>>I think they should be made to sit through replays of the trial 
>>continuously until they come to the right decision.
> 
> 
> Were you in the nightclub watching it happen then Nigel?
> 

We all were, Phil. In a sense we all were.

> You really are the cunt of the froup aren't you
> 
> phil
> 

One of many, and still learning the art from Mikey.

Nice to see you back btw, but if you're going to fit in here you really 
need to be more explicit about what you're trying to say.

I feel sorry for King's wife. "I believe he is innocent. I have to stand 
by him because he's my husband."

Pregnant and married to a violent, racist, low-intelligence thug with 
little self-control and no respect for his marriage vows. She ought to 
be on Harriet Harman's 'At Risk' register.

I think King should be allowed back into football when he's done his 
time (actually half-time or one third time these days now that nulab are 
so tough on crime). Outside football he's just a petty criminal. At 
least playing football reduces his opportunities in that field, and I'm 
sure there are some lower league clubs like Oldham or Notts County who 
would be happy to ignore his past.

"nigel"  wrote in message 
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> I think King should be allowed back into football when he's done his time

Of course. Ours is supposed to be a rehabilitative system. You get sent 
down, serve your time (during which time there should be steps taken to 
rehabilitate you) and upon release, you are allowed to integrate back into 
society. There are caveats and exceptions to this of course, but in the case 
of Marlon King (just as with Lee Hughes), it would be unjust to deny him a 
chance to earn his (not inconsiderable) crust through football.

Quite whether prison will change him remains to be seen. I'm sure he'll 
still lack the same basic respect for his wife, will chase the same bits of 
skirt (regardless of whether they are 'in his league' or not)... but if it 
means he at least refrains from smacking them in the mouth when they refuse 
his advances, then it will be a job well done.

CJM wrote:

> 
> "nigel"  wrote in message 
> news:hqadnZlJAJYon23XnZ2dnUVZ8tSdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk...
> 
>> I think King should be allowed back into football when he's done his time
> 
> 
> Of course. Ours is supposed to be a rehabilitative system.

:)

> You get sent 
> down, serve your time (during which time there should be steps taken to 
> rehabilitate you) and upon release, you are allowed to integrate back 
> into society.

The problem is that successive governments have short-sightedly skimped 
on the rehabilition budget and prison is more a 'university of crime' 
than a rehabilitation centre, so first offenders become career 
criminals, get caught and sent back to prison again and thus the 
underfunding becomes a positive feedback loop.

 > There are caveats and exceptions to this of course, but in
> the case of Marlon King (just as with Lee Hughes), it would be unjust to 
> deny him a chance to earn his (not inconsiderable) crust through football.
> 
> Quite whether prison will change him remains to be seen. I'm sure he'll 
> still lack the same basic respect for his wife, will chase the same bits 
> of skirt (regardless of whether they are 'in his league' or not)... but 
> if it means he at least refrains from smacking them in the mouth when 
> they refuse his advances, then it will be a job well done.

This might seem hypocritical of me, but I can sort of understand why 
Marlon King acted as he did. Low intelligence and under-educated, by the 
accounts in the press he was taking on a young lady who was quick witted 
with a ready supply of put-downs. It's not an excuse for violence and 
it's right he's going to prison, but I can understand why he got 
frustrated. You see similar on the football pitch too - when a skillful 
forward leaves a journeyman defender (eg Carragher) in his wake once too 
often, he usually gets a clattering sooner or later.