http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8361634.stm

On Nov 16, 7:27 pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
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> On Nov 16, 7:02 pm, Sam  wrote:
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> > On Nov 16, 4:08 pm, "nick 'little england' griffin"
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> >  wrote:
> > > On Nov 16, 3:03 pm, Jon°  wrote:
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> > > > On Nov 16, 1:43 pm, The gods have made us mad
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> > > >  wrote:
> > > > > DVH wrote:
> > > > > > "William Black"  wrote in message
> > > > > >news:hdre13$l16$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> > > > > >> DVH wrote:
> > > > > >>> "William Black"  wrote in message
> > > > > >>>news:hdrc4u$83a$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> > > > > >>>> Mel Rowing wrote:
> > > > > >>>>> Just what we were told not so long ago couldn't and wouldn't happen.
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> > > > > >>>>> Mr Ban Rumpy will have other ideas.
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> > > > > >>>>>http://tinyurl.com/yh44nrx
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> > > > > >>>>> Goodbye UK! It's been nice living here.
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> > > > > >>>>> Goodbye France, Goodbye Italy, Goodbye Spain, Goodbye ...
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> > > > > >>>>> Hello Greater Germany! It took a long time but you finally managed it.
> > > > > >>>> Why are you frightened?
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> > > > > >>>> Is it that your national identity is so tenuous that you need
> > > > > >>>> meaningless symbols to remind you of it?
> > > > > >>> Of course you claim to believe they're meaningless.
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> > > > > >>> Objectively, you're correct: The feeling of affection for a flag can't be
> > > > > >>> expressed in rational terms. The word "loyalty" cannot be made flesh,
> > > > > >>> unlike "five year plan" which can be measured in tractor production.
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> > > > > >>> But reality will defeat you. Loyalty carries huge amounts of subjective
> > > > > >>> meaning even though you will never find it in material form. It exists,
> > > > > >>> no matter what the useful idiots of the EUSSR wish or try to claim.
> > > > > >> My loyalty to this nation is very strong.
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> > > > > >> I have no loyalty to its symbols of identity.
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> > > > > >> These are just that and no more.
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> > > > > >> We allow people to buy ladies underwear decorated with our flag for
> > > > > >> exactly that reason.
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> > > > > >> We are a grown up country,  not some new nation mewling over tawdry bits
> > > > > >> of rag.
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> > > > > > Absolutely, my dear fellow!
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> > > > > > And let's abolish religion and representative art while we're at it. After
> > > > > > all, they're meaningless symbol-ridden anachronisms.<<<
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> > > > > The 'religion' that kept this country safe *has* all but been abolished.
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> > > > > When I was young there were two routinely matter-of-fact statements made
> > > > > about Britain,  "This is free country", and, "This is a Christian country"
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> > > > > I must admit, it is only in recent years that I have come to appreciate
> > > > > the symbiosis between those two declarations and how, by destroying one,
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> > > > It has been written “That the pen, is mightier then the sword”.
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> > > > Perham we should also realise that eventually “ faith is mightier then
> > > > military power”.
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> > > > The Roman empire was carved up by various faiths………The western world
> > > > is now being conquered by one faith………..“Softly softly catchee
> > > > Christian” .
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> > > > Perhaps also people will soon begin to realise why The Popes through
> > > > the centuries have made birth control verboten…………………In Britain we are
> > > > being out bred and will eventually lose our identity, our way of life
> > > > and even the thin veneer of civilisation that we have tried to cling
> > > > to.
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> > Is that some sort of oxymoron?
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I just like your loose use of the word bigot.

'William Black' wrote thus:

>aracari wrote:
>> 'William Black' wrote thus:
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>>> aracari wrote:
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>>>> I'm fairly sure that if the spooks wanted to track/monitor your
>>>> Internet comms they'd do it. Whether they'd be able to decrypt
>>>> what you sent is a whole different matter. Either way, the costs
>>>> would be significant and only worth the resources in the gravest
>>>> of situations.
>>> Well yes,  which is what I've been saying.

 
>> Nope. It is not what you've been saying.
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>> This debate has the tell tale of another debate we had some months
>> ago, when you devoted all of 7 seconds into designing the NHS
>> computer system, despite the fact that others have spent £billions
>> on it and still got it wrong.  Also, there were all the other
>> important issues involved in a properly managed major project
>> which you skipped over, which told me that you've never been
>> involved in one at a project management level!
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>> Willie, I sometimes feel that you have a vast collection of
>> buzzwords/phrases at your disposal and you string them together
>> into sentences to give the impression that you know what you're
>> talking about. Am I right? ;-)
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>No son,  but you're one of these techy types that won't be told.

I'm not your son, Willie, and that's not true. There are plenty
of techy things I do not know and I am one of those who willingly
admits it. It's the way to learn!

There are aspects of Internet spook surveillance that we could
agree on, but the idea that they can just trace people who are
using TOR or decrypt PGP etc is a nonsense. Read the TOR website
and see how TOR is designed and operates.

My own web file server is constantly accessed by people using
TOR browsers and there's no way I can trace who the are:
http://aracari.redirectme.net:8080/

-HTH-