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date: 4 Nov 2009 18:09:06 GMT,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
Re: Grandmother who objected to gay march is accused of hate crime   
Claire  gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> >> > Christians are never really alone

>> >> Nor is our MI5-persecuted friend...

>> > Ha-de-ha-ha. Very funny. :-/

>> Was I joking?

> Dunno, were you joking?

Not entirely.

> Do you know where you are? ;-)

Oh, yes.
date: 4 Nov 2009 18:10:38 GMT   author:   Adrian

Re: Grandmother who objected to gay march is accused of hate crime   
Claire  gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> > Christ commanded us to be in the world but not of the world, and here
>> > you are making worldly arguments against the Gospel!!

>> Pardon?

> An arguement made by atheists will not convince me!

Your mind is clearly closed tighter than the proverbial nun's chuff.

>> > This sort of thing is exactly why I personally could not have as my
>> > minister or be a member of a church endorsing homosexuality – because
>> > I look to ministers for spiritual guidance (not answers I should make
>> > clear) and I need confidence that those in that position actually
>> > have the same starting point of faith that I do.

>> Ah. Gotcha. You want "guidance", but only so long as it doesn't
>> conflict with your preconceptions.

> Oh come now! You would not expect me to accept the word of a minister
> without question would you? ;-)

It's easy to do so, if you only go for a minister who you broadly agree 
with.

>> > Should have posted the other translation. The fact that a word can be
>> > translated to mean “homosexual” does tell us something. You cannot
>> > selectively misunderstand  the meaning of words.

>> Of course you can't. Not when that meaning's been so carefully selected
>> from several equally viable alternatives in the first place...

> I don't see I have done that. Words from other languages do not always
> have exact translations into English. It is best therefore to know all
> possible translations to try to get a full understanding of the meaning.

Yet you seem to be picking only the possible translations that fit your 
preconceptions - preconceptions on which, you've already admitted, you 
choose your church.
date: 4 Nov 2009 18:09:06 GMT   author:   Adrian

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