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date: 4 Nov 2009 14:32:17 GMT,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
Re: Grandmother who objected to gay march is accused of hate crime   
Claire  gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

> No part of the new testament was written by Jesus, this fact is often
> mentioned by atheists to undermine the claims it makes about the
> divinity of Jesus and his resurrection.

I can't see how it would undermine any such claim - if it had been, not 
only would it be somewhat sketchy about the Easter Uprising, but I fail 
to see why the Son of God wouldn't be allowed to use a (holy)ghostwriter.

> Christ commanded us to be in the world but not of the world, and here 
> you are making worldly arguments against the Gospel!!

Pardon?

> This sort of thing is exactly why I personally could not have as my 
> minister or be a member of a church endorsing homosexuality – because I 
> look to ministers for spiritual guidance (not answers I should make 
> clear) and I need confidence that those in that position actually have 
> the same starting point of faith that I do.

Ah. Gotcha. You want "guidance", but only so long as it doesn't conflict 
with your preconceptions.
 
> Should have posted the other translation. The fact that a word can be
> translated to mean “homosexual” does tell us something. You cannot
> selectively misunderstand  the meaning of words.

Of course you can't. Not when that meaning's been so carefully selected 
from several equally viable alternatives in the first place...
date: 4 Nov 2009 14:32:17 GMT   author:   Adrian

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