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date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:19:31 +0000,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
Scotch hands go ever deeper into English pockets   
TELEGRAPH                                       4.11.09
1. 0 Every family in the country is now facing a tax liability of 0 to prop up Britain0 the biggest bail-out in history.

                By Robert Winnett, Edmund Conway and Harry Wallop

The Chancellor confirmed that the Government would pump an extra
0 the only way to keep the business alive.

Taxpayers have poured a total of 0 the 0 that was set aside as insurance against further trouble in the future.

In total, the Government has put 0 the banks, including RBS, Lloyds and HBOS, since the start of the
financial crisis last year.
Note:  Utterly mad. The taxpayer takes on heroically dangerous
obligations without exercising meaningful control over the banks, both
those they have a stake in and the rest who are hiding behind the
assurances of the British state.  The only clean way of dealing with the
situation is to nationalise  the lot, not just temporarily, but as a
matter of policy so that the state regains control of the money supply.
The nationalised banks would have to be placed under strict legally
enforceable restrictions on what they could do to prevent politicians
corrupting their behaviour for electoral advantage and to ensure the
extension of loans to business and individuals where it was objectively
reasonable to do so, for example, a mortgage based on 3 times earnings
with a 15% deposit.

Nationalising the banks would not mean that companies could not raise
money privately. They could do this through such vehicles as rights
issues and bonds. There would also be a place for private capital
lenders who took deposits and loaned out only the money deposited with
them. RH
-- 
Robert Henderson
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:19:31 +0000   author:   Robert Henderson

Re: Scotch hands go ever deeper into English pockets   
"Robert Henderson"  wrote in message 
news:DfnBJZaTFX8KFwi7@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>
>
>
> TELEGRAPH                                       4.11.09
> 1. 0 Every family in the country is now facing a tax liability of 0 to 
> prop up Britain0 the biggest bail-out in history.
>
>                By Robert Winnett, Edmund Conway and Harry Wallop
>
> The Chancellor confirmed that the Government would pump an extra
> 0 the only way to keep the business alive.
>
> Taxpayers have poured a total of 0 the 0 that was set aside as insurance 
> against further trouble in the future.
>
> In total, the Government has put 0 the banks, including RBS, Lloyds and 
> HBOS, since the start of the
> financial crisis last year.
> Note:  Utterly mad. The taxpayer takes on heroically dangerous
> obligations without exercising meaningful control over the banks, both
> those they have a stake in and the rest who are hiding behind the
> assurances of the British state.  The only clean way of dealing with the
> situation is to nationalise  the lot, not just temporarily, but as a
> matter of policy so that the state regains control of the money supply.
> The nationalised banks would have to be placed under strict legally
> enforceable restrictions on what they could do to prevent politicians
> corrupting their behaviour for electoral advantage and to ensure the
> extension of loans to business and individuals where it was objectively
> reasonable to do so, for example, a mortgage based on 3 times earnings
> with a 15% deposit.
>
> Nationalising the banks would not mean that companies could not raise
> money privately. They could do this through such vehicles as rights
> issues and bonds. There would also be a place for private capital
> lenders who took deposits and loaned out only the money deposited with
> them. RH
> -- 
> Robert Henderson
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk

LMFAO what's with all the 0000000s, Rabbie you uneducated twat.
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:32:30 -0000   author:   MCP

Re: Scotch hands go ever deeper into English pockets   
"Robert Henderson"  wrote in message 
news:DfnBJZaTFX8KFwi7@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>
>
>
> TELEGRAPH                                       4.11.09
> 1. 0 Every family in the country is now facing a tax liability of 0 to 
> prop up Britain0 the biggest bail-out in history.
>
>                By Robert Winnett, Edmund Conway and Harry Wallop
>
> The Chancellor confirmed that the Government would pump an extra
> 0 the only way to keep the business alive.
>
> Taxpayers have poured a total of 0 the 0 that was set aside as insurance 
> against further trouble in the future.
>
> In total, the Government has put 0 the banks, including RBS, Lloyds and 
> HBOS, since the start of the
> financial crisis last year.
> Note:  Utterly mad. The taxpayer takes on heroically dangerous
> obligations without exercising meaningful control over the banks, both
> those they have a stake in and the rest who are hiding behind the
> assurances of the British state.  The only clean way of dealing with the
> situation is to nationalise  the lot, not just temporarily, but as a
> matter of policy so that the state regains control of the money supply.


Barking.
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:34:10 -0000   author:   True Blue

Re: Scotch hands go ever deeper into English pockets   
On 4 Nov, 12:19, Robert Henderson  wrote:
> TELEGRAPH                                       4.11.09
> 1. 0 Every family in the country is now facing a tax liability of 0 to prop up Britain0 the biggest bail-out in history.
>
>                 By Robert Winnett, Edmund Conway and Harry Wallop
>
> The Chancellor confirmed that the Government would pump an extra
> 0 the only way to keep the business alive.
>
> Taxpayers have poured a total of 0 the 0 that was set aside as insurance against further trouble in the future.
>
> In total, the Government has put 0 the banks, including RBS, Lloyds and HBOS, since the start of the
> financial crisis last year.
> Note:  Utterly mad. The taxpayer takes on heroically dangerous
> obligations without exercising meaningful control over the banks, both
> those they have a stake in and the rest who are hiding behind the
> assurances of the British state.  The only clean way of dealing with the
> situation is to nationalise  the lot, not just temporarily, but as a
> matter of policy so that the state regains control of the money supply.
> The nationalised banks would have to be placed under strict legally
> enforceable restrictions on what they could do to prevent politicians
> corrupting their behaviour for electoral advantage and to ensure the
> extension of loans to business and individuals where it was objectively
> reasonable to do so, for example, a mortgage based on 3 times earnings
> with a 15% deposit.
>
> Nationalising the banks would not mean that companies could not raise
> money privately. They could do this through such vehicles as rights
> issues and bonds. There would also be a place for private capital
> lenders who took deposits and loaned out only the money deposited with
> them. RH
> --
> Robert Henderson


LOL - Robert's education limitations show once again.

GMc
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:05:14 -0800 (PST)   author:   GM

Re: Scotch hands go ever deeper into English pockets   
On Nov 5, 1:19 am, Robert Henderson 
wrote:
> TELEGRAPH                                       4.11.09
> 1. 0 Every family in the country is now facing a tax liability of 0 to prop up Britain0 the biggest bail-out in history.
>
>                 By Robert Winnett, Edmund Conway and Harry Wallop
>
> The Chancellor confirmed that the Government would pump an extra
> 0 the only way to keep the business alive.
>
> Taxpayers have poured a total of 0 the 0 that was set aside as insurance against further trouble in the future.
>

The benefits of an *nglish education no doubt! A total of 0 eh? wow!
You *nglish should be worried.
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 12:46:14 -0800 (PST)   author:   naebad

Re: Scotch hands go ever deeper into English pockets   
On Nov 4, 4:19 am, Robert Henderson 
wrote:
> TELEGRAPH                                       4.11.09

I think poof Hendarse wands Scotsh hands in his pockets?? You'd like
that wouldn't you?


Hardy
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 19:52:39 -0800 (PST)   author:   HardySpicer

Re: Scotch hands go ever deeper into English pockets   
In message <zveIm.11751$yW6.690@newsfe11.ams2>, MCP 
 writes
>> them. RH
>> --
>> Robert Henderson
>> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
>
>LMFAO what's with all the 0000000s, Rabbie you uneducated twat.
>
Blame the ISP/Usenet software not me. It left this end with the figures 
intact. Here it is again:



TELEGRAPH                                       4.11.09
1. £4,350 per family to bail out Britain's banks Every family in the 
country is now facing a tax liability of ?4,350 to prop up Britain's 
banking system after Alistair Darling announced the biggest bail-out in 
history.

                 By Robert Winnett, Edmund Conway and Harry Wallop

The Chancellor confirmed that the Government would pump an extra £25.5 
billion into Royal Bank of Scotland, and declared that it was the only 
way to keep the business alive.

Taxpayers have poured a total of £53.5 billion into RBS, including the 
?20 billion part-nationalisation last year and another £8 billion that 
was set aside as insurance against further trouble in the future.

In total, the Government has put ?74 billion of taxpayers' money into 
the banks, including RBS, Lloyds and HBOS, since the start of the 
financial crisis last year.

The Conservatives claimed the latest bail-out equated to an extra tax 
liability of £2,000 for every one of the 17 million families in the 
country. This comes on top of the £2,350 to which every household is 
already exposed as a result of previous attempts to prop up the 
financial system.

-- 
Robert Henderson
Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk
date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:40:07 +0000   author:   Robert Henderson

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