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date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:25:51 -0000,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6499391/Five-British-soldiers-shot-dead-by-rogue-Afghanistan-policeman.html

We should ask the Afghan PM if the Afghans could name a section of the Uzbek 
pipeline after the men, in their memory.
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:25:51 -0000   author:   True Blue

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
"True Blue"  wrote in message 
news:T8KdnbgzEL8_1WzXnZ2dnUVZ8kydnZ2d@giganews.com...
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6499391/Five-British-soldiers-shot-dead-by-rogue-Afghanistan-policeman.html
>
> We should ask the Afghan PM if the Afghans could name a section of the 
> Uzbek pipeline after the men, in their memory.

Erratum: For "Uzbek" read "Kazakhstan"....
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:29:45 -0000   author:   True Blue

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
True Blue wrote:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6499391/Five-British-soldiers-shot-dead-by-rogue-Afghanistan-policeman.html 
> 
> 
> We should ask the Afghan PM if the Afghans could name a section of the 
> Uzbek pipeline after the men, in their memory.

Here we go - Iraq already. Please can we just leave now?
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:10:05 +0000   author:   Maria

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
Maria wrote:
> True Blue wrote:
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6499391/Five-British-soldiers-shot-dead-by-rogue-Afghanistan-policeman.html 
>>
>>
>> We should ask the Afghan PM if the Afghans could name a section of the 
>> Uzbek pipeline after the men, in their memory.
> 
> Here we go - Iraq already. Please can we just leave now?

Questions to be asked:

1.  Will staying do any good?

2.  Will leaving do any harm?

3.  How much harm will the political fallout do to the UK if we do leave?

4.  Will militant Islam now bring their war to us in greater strength as 
they're no longer fighting us there?

5.  How much damage will be done to the UK military if we do leave?


-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:17:29 +0000   author:   William Black

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
William Black wrote:
> Maria wrote:
>> True Blue wrote:
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6499391/Five-British-soldiers-shot-dead-by-rogue-Afghanistan-policeman.html 
>>>
>>>
>>> We should ask the Afghan PM if the Afghans could name a section of 
>>> the Uzbek pipeline after the men, in their memory.
>>
>> Here we go - Iraq already. Please can we just leave now?
> 
> Questions to be asked:
> 
> 1.  Will staying do any good?
> 
> 2.  Will leaving do any harm?
> 
> 3.  How much harm will the political fallout do to the UK if we do leave?
> 
> 4.  Will militant Islam now bring their war to us in greater strength as 
> they're no longer fighting us there?
> 
> 5.  How much damage will be done to the UK military if we do leave?
> 
> 
Or - can we win? Probably not - we have catalysed an insurgency as we 
did in Iraq - people are still dying in their thousands there, often at 
the hands of the Western trained security forces.
Leaving will do some harm - staying will do more harm.

The only way we could ever impose 'peace' in that country is to do as 
that Taliban did - no mercy, back up with large numbers of troops. 
That's not allowed these days, so we might as well get out now - damage 
limitation.
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:21:59 +0000   author:   Maria

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
Maria wrote:

> William Black wrote:
>> Maria wrote:
>>> True Blue wrote:
>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6499391/Five-British-soldiers-shot-dead-by-rogue-Afghanistan-policeman.html 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We should ask the Afghan PM if the Afghans could name a section of 
>>>> the Uzbek pipeline after the men, in their memory.
>>>
>>> Here we go - Iraq already. Please can we just leave now?
>>
>> Questions to be asked:
>>
>> 1.  Will staying do any good?
>>
>> 2.  Will leaving do any harm?
>>
>> 3.  How much harm will the political fallout do to the UK if we do leave?
>>
>> 4.  Will militant Islam now bring their war to us in greater strength 
>> as they're no longer fighting us there?
>>
>> 5.  How much damage will be done to the UK military if we do leave?
>>
>>
> Or - can we win? Probably not - we have catalysed an insurgency as we 
> did in Iraq - people are still dying in their thousands there, often at 
> the hands of the Western trained security forces.
> Leaving will do some harm - staying will do more harm.
> 
> The only way we could ever impose 'peace' in that country is to do as 
> that Taliban did - no mercy, back up with large numbers of troops. 

And be prepared to stay there indefinitely in large numbers to keep the 
peace and oversee the running of the country.
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:24:41 +0000   author:   Maria

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:25:51 +0000, True Blue wrote:

> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6499391/Five-
British-soldiers-shot-dead-by-rogue-Afghanistan-policeman.html
> 
> We should ask the Afghan PM if the Afghans could name a section of the
> Uzbek pipeline after the men, in their memory.

they sometimes dont even get paid for months... reports of them being 
close to starvation as the bent 'kers who control the payrolls have spent 
it all...
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:39:12 GMT   author:   FrereTuck

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
William Black wrote:
> Maria wrote:
>> True Blue wrote:
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6499391/Five-British-soldiers-shot-dead-by-rogue-Afghanistan-policeman.html 
>>>
>>>
>>> We should ask the Afghan PM if the Afghans could name a section of 
>>> the Uzbek pipeline after the men, in their memory.
>>
>> Here we go - Iraq already. Please can we just leave now?
> 
> Questions to be asked:
> 
> 1.  Will staying do any good?

No

> 2.  Will leaving do any harm?

Unlikely

> 3.  How much harm will the political fallout do to the UK if we do leave?

None - as long as we refrain from invading other countries.

> 4.  Will militant Islam now bring their war to us in greater strength as 
> they're no longer fighting us there?

I don't see the Taliban storming the White Cliffs of Dover.

> 5.  How much damage will be done to the UK military if we do leave?

Less than what is happening now.


-- 
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:48:18 +0000   author:   Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
Maria wrote:
> Maria wrote:
> 
>> William Black wrote:
>>> Maria wrote:
>>>> True Blue wrote:
>>>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/6499391/Five-British-soldiers-shot-dead-by-rogue-Afghanistan-policeman.html 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We should ask the Afghan PM if the Afghans could name a section of 
>>>>> the Uzbek pipeline after the men, in their memory.
>>>>
>>>> Here we go - Iraq already. Please can we just leave now?
>>>
>>> Questions to be asked:
>>>
>>> 1.  Will staying do any good?
>>>
>>> 2.  Will leaving do any harm?
>>>
>>> 3.  How much harm will the political fallout do to the UK if we do 
>>> leave?
>>>
>>> 4.  Will militant Islam now bring their war to us in greater strength 
>>> as they're no longer fighting us there?
>>>
>>> 5.  How much damage will be done to the UK military if we do leave?
>>>
>>>
>> Or - can we win? 

Define 'win' here.

-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:38:37 +0000   author:   William Black

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
"Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message 
news:7ldigsF3crsodU3@mid.individual.net...

>> 4.  Will militant Islam now bring their war to us in greater strength as 
>> they're no longer fighting us there?
>
> I don't see the Taliban storming the White Cliffs of Dover.

They didn't see the taliban infiltrating the Afghan police either.

Plus I don't think the taliban need to storm they can simply slip in like 
every other illegal immigrant.
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 21:58:46 -0000   author:   Aramis Gunton

Re: Afghan policeman kills five British soldiers.   
Aramis Gunton wrote:
> "Dirk Bruere at NeoPax"  wrote in message 
> news:7ldigsF3crsodU3@mid.individual.net...
> 
>>> 4.  Will militant Islam now bring their war to us in greater strength 
>>> as they're no longer fighting us there?
>>
>> I don't see the Taliban storming the White Cliffs of Dover.
> 
> They didn't see the taliban infiltrating the Afghan police either.
> 
> Plus I don't think the taliban need to storm they can simply slip in 
> like every other illegal immigrant.

Then maybe we better deploy the troops rather closer to home.

-- 
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:51:06 +0000   author:   Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

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