http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-moment-BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html

On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 23:21:50 -0800 (PST), "Nick 'my dad (correction)
didnt fly spitfires' Griffin"  wrote:

>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-moment-BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html
The other way around would of course not be reported.
btw A black belt in most of the marital arts is not what it used to
be. The low-brow report confused karate and kung fu - to. Usual crap.

"jake"  wrote in message 
news:b9k2f5lna50gafblppsclgp6tf0pth9p34@4ax.com...

> A black belt in most of the marital arts is not what it used to
> be.

I blame feminism.

Blue wrote:
> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-moment-BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html 
>>
> 
> 
> 
> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
> 
> And this is unclear here.

Yeah,  right,  some BBC guy in a suit with a cameraman in tow is always 
going to start a row with three Neanderthal thugs who've had a bit too 
much to drink isn't he...

I mean,  he knows none of them are ex soldiers who know how to handle 
themselves doesn't he...

Don't be bloody silly.


-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.

Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-moment-BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html



The question with this sort of thing is who started it.

And this is unclear here.

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:35:20 +0000, Blue wrote:

> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-moment-
BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html
> 
> 
> 
> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
> 
> And this is unclear here.

the video doesn't seem to have the very early incident details, but seems 
that kid was quite literally 'asking for it'

i.e. giving it the 'come on then if you think yer hard enough' (in this 
case bolstered by the 'cos I got me two mates with me' factor) spiel...

On Nov 4, 7:21 am, "Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires'
Griffin"  wrote:
> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen...

How unoriginal.

You need some new material.

On Nov 4, 12:25 pm, William Black  wrote:
> Blue wrote:
> > Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
> >>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen..> > The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
>
> > And this is unclear here.
>
> Yeah,  right,  some BBC guy in a suit with a cameraman in tow is always
> going to start a row with three Neanderthal thugs who've had a bit too
> much to drink isn't he...
>
> I mean,  he knows none of them are ex soldiers who know how to handle
> themselves doesn't he...
>
> Don't be bloody silly.
>
> --
> William Black
>
> "Any number under six"
>
> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
> single handed with a quarterstaff.

Did anyone, apart from the said BBC hack, hear racist language being
used?

FrereTuck wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:35:20 +0000, Blue wrote:
> 
>> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-moment-
> BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html
>>
>>
>> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
>>
>> And this is unclear here.
> 
> the video doesn't seem to have the very early incident details, but seems 
> that kid was quite literally 'asking for it'
> 
> i.e. giving it the 'come on then if you think yer hard enough' (in this 
> case bolstered by the 'cos I got me two mates with me' factor) spiel...


I've seen reporters on bloopers and I've seen them bark at passers by who get
in shot etc.

So our BBC is doing some reporting, drunks stroll by, make clowns of themselves.
Reporter tells them to sod off. Drunks say oh yeah. run VT.

William Black wrote:
> Blue wrote:
>> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-moment-BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
>>
>> And this is unclear here.
> 
> Yeah,  right,  some BBC guy in a suit with a cameraman in tow is always 
> going to start a row with three Neanderthal thugs who've had a bit too 
> much to drink isn't he...
> 
> I mean,  he knows none of them are ex soldiers who know how to handle 
> themselves doesn't he...
> 
> Don't be bloody silly.


After the BBC reporter starts hitting the drunks do they both jump on him
in outrageous, landing many blows ? I don't see that.

On Nov 4, 7:21 am, "Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires'
Griffin"  wrote:

> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen...

I'll bet he could sing soprano afterwards!

On Nov 4, 2:24 pm, Sam  wrote:
> On Nov 4, 7:21 am, "Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires'
>
> Griffin"  wrote:
> >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen...
>
> How unoriginal.
>
> You need some new material.

'old whitey' probably gets beaten a lot.....;-)

On Nov 4, 3:00 pm, "Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires'
Griffin"  wrote:
> On Nov 4, 2:24 pm, Sam  wrote:
>
> > On Nov 4, 7:21 am, "Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires'
>
> > Griffin"  wrote:
> > >http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen.> > How unoriginal.
>
> > You need some new material.
>
> 'old whitey' probably gets beaten a lot.....;-)

You will have to ask him.

Blue wrote:
> William Black wrote:
>> Blue wrote:
>>> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-moment-BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html 
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
>>>
>>> And this is unclear here.
>>
>> Yeah,  right,  some BBC guy in a suit with a cameraman in tow is 
>> always going to start a row with three Neanderthal thugs who've had a 
>> bit too much to drink isn't he...
>>
>> I mean,  he knows none of them are ex soldiers who know how to handle 
>> themselves doesn't he...
>>
>> Don't be bloody silly.
> 
> 
> After the BBC reporter starts hitting the drunks do they both jump on him
> in outrageous, landing many blows ? I don't see that.

I understand that after he started hitting back (and he did allow them 
to have first shot) they lost interest...



-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.

Blue wrote:
> William Black wrote:
>> Blue wrote:
>>> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-moment-BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html 
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
>>>
>>> And this is unclear here.
>>
>> Yeah,  right,  some BBC guy in a suit with a cameraman in tow is 
>> always going to start a row with three Neanderthal thugs who've had a 
>> bit too much to drink isn't he...
>>
>> I mean,  he knows none of them are ex soldiers who know how to handle 
>> themselves doesn't he...
>>
>> Don't be bloody silly.
> 
> 
> After the BBC reporter starts hitting the drunks do they both jump on him
> in outrageous, landing many blows ? I don't see that.


One leaves.

The other persists.

I love the way the camera man takes Patel's briefcase to allow him to 
use both hands...


-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.

Sam wrote:
> On Nov 4, 12:25 pm, William Black  wrote:
>> Blue wrote:
>>> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen...
>>> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
>>> And this is unclear here.
>> Yeah,  right,  some BBC guy in a suit with a cameraman in tow is always
>> going to start a row with three Neanderthal thugs who've had a bit too
>> much to drink isn't he...
>>
>> I mean,  he knows none of them are ex soldiers who know how to handle
>> themselves doesn't he...
>>
>> Don't be bloody silly.
>>
>> --
>> William Black
>>
>> "Any number under six"
>>
>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
>> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
>> single handed with a quarterstaff.
> 
> Did anyone, apart from the said BBC hack, hear racist language being
> used?

The camera man was there the whole time.

He was available to be called as a defence witness.

He wasn't...


-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.

On Nov 4, 3:45 pm, William Black  wrote:
> Blue wrote:
> > William Black wrote:
> >> Blue wrote:
> >>> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
> >>>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen> >>> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
>
> >>> And this is unclear here.
>
> >> Yeah,  right,  some BBC guy in a suit with a cameraman in tow is
> >> always going to start a row with three Neanderthal thugs who've had a
> >> bit too much to drink isn't he...
>
> >> I mean,  he knows none of them are ex soldiers who know how to handle
> >> themselves doesn't he...
>
> >> Don't be bloody silly.
>
> > After the BBC reporter starts hitting the drunks do they both jump on him
> > in outrageous, landing many blows ? I don't see that.
>
> One leaves.
>
> The other persists.
>
> I love the way the camera man takes Patel's briefcase to allow him to
> use both hands...
>
> --
> William Black
>
> "Any number under six"
>
> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
> single handed with a quarterstaff.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I have to ask.  If the reporter was White and the drunk was Asian,
would you be glorifying violence?

Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:

> On Nov 4, 2:24 pm, Sam  wrote:

>> On Nov 4, 7:21 am, "Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires'

>> Griffin"  wrote:
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen...

>> How unoriginal.

>> You need some new material.

> 'old whitey' probably gets beaten a lot.....;-)

Two thread titles in the space of two days with my name.  I must be 
doing something right.

On Nov 4, 4:01 pm, White Spirit  wrote:
> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>
> > On Nov 4, 2:24 pm, Sam  wrote:
> >> On Nov 4, 7:21 am, "Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires'
> >> Griffin"  wrote:
> >>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen.> >> How unoriginal.
> >> You need some new material.
> > 'old whitey' probably gets beaten a lot.....;-)
>
> Two thread titles in the space of two days with my name.  I must be
> doing something right.

Yeah, I think he is stalking you.

Maybe it’s your mate, Andy?

Sam wrote:
> On Nov 4, 3:45 pm, William Black  wrote:
>> Blue wrote:
>>> William Black wrote:
>>>> Blue wrote:
>>>>> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen...
>>>>> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
>>>>> And this is unclear here.
>>>> Yeah,  right,  some BBC guy in a suit with a cameraman in tow is
>>>> always going to start a row with three Neanderthal thugs who've had a
>>>> bit too much to drink isn't he...
>>>> I mean,  he knows none of them are ex soldiers who know how to handle
>>>> themselves doesn't he...
>>>> Don't be bloody silly.
>>> After the BBC reporter starts hitting the drunks do they both jump on him
>>> in outrageous, landing many blows ? I don't see that.
>> One leaves.
>>
>> The other persists.
>>
>> I love the way the camera man takes Patel's briefcase to allow him to
>> use both hands...
>>

> 
> I have to ask.  If the reporter was White and the drunk was Asian,
> would you be glorifying violence?

Almost certainly

Watching drunken hooligans get their comeuppance is always entertaining.

-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.

On Nov 4, 5:16 pm, William Black  wrote:
> Sam wrote:
> > On Nov 4, 3:45 pm, William Black  wrote:
> >> Blue wrote:
> >>> William Black wrote:
> >>>> Blue wrote:
> >>>>> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
> >>>>>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-momen...
> >>>>> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
> >>>>> And this is unclear here.
> >>>> Yeah,  right,  some BBC guy in a suit with a cameraman in tow is
> >>>> always going to start a row with three Neanderthal thugs who've had a
> >>>> bit too much to drink isn't he...
> >>>> I mean,  he knows none of them are ex soldiers who know how to handle
> >>>> themselves doesn't he...
> >>>> Don't be bloody silly.
> >>> After the BBC reporter starts hitting the drunks do they both jump on him
> >>> in outrageous, landing many blows ? I don't see that.
> >> One leaves.
>
> >> The other persists.
>
> >> I love the way the camera man takes Patel's briefcase to allow him to
> >> use both hands...
>
> > I have to ask.  If the reporter was White and the drunk was Asian,
> > would you be glorifying violence?
>
> Almost certainly
>
> Watching drunken hooligans get their comeuppance is always entertaining.
>
> --
> William Black
>
> "Any number under six"
>
> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
> single handed with a quarterstaff.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Fair enough.

On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:29:47 +0000, Blue wrote:

> FrereTuck wrote:
>> On Wed, 04 Nov 2009 11:35:20 +0000, Blue wrote:
>> 
>>> Nick 'my dad (correction) didnt fly spitfires' Griffin wrote:
>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1224933/Caught-CCTV-The-
moment-
>> BBC-presenter-floors-taunting-yob-karate-expertise.html
>>>
>>>
>>> The question with this sort of thing is who started it.
>>>
>>> And this is unclear here.
>> 
>> the video doesn't seem to have the very early incident details, but
>> seems that kid was quite literally 'asking for it'
>> 
>> i.e. giving it the 'come on then if you think yer hard enough' (in this
>> case bolstered by the 'cos I got me two mates with me' factor) spiel...
> 
> 
> I've seen reporters on bloopers and I've seen them bark at passers by
> who get in shot etc.
> 
> So our BBC is doing some reporting, drunks stroll by, make clowns of
> themselves. Reporter tells them to sod off. Drunks say oh yeah. run VT.

in their defence they were not so uncouth as to attack the pushy bitch on 
the tv crew who was pushing them...

and I don't doubt that reporter is a 100k pa arrogant so and so...

Sam wrote:

>> Two thread titles in the space of two days with my name.  I must be
>> doing something right.

> Yeah, I think he is stalking you.

> Maybe it’s your mate, Andy?

Possibly.  His posts have 'Tennants Super' written all over them ;)

On Nov 4, 8:12 pm, White Spirit  wrote:
> Sam wrote:
> >> Two thread titles in the space of two days with my name.  I must be
> >> doing something right.
> > Yeah, I think he is stalking you.
> > Maybe it’s your mate, Andy?
>
> Possibly.  His posts have 'Tennants Super' written all over them ;)

LOL