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date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:11:41 +0000,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm

-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:11:41 +0000   author:   William Black

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
On Nov 3, 10:11 pm, William Black  wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>
> --
> William Black
>
> "Any number under six"
>
> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
> single handed with a quarterstaff.

There must be someone behind the scenes who likes Mr Griffin.

All these propaganda presents and it isn’t even Christmas.
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:15:13 -0800 (PST)   author:   Sam

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
"William Black"  wrote in message 
news:hcqaje$7um$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Sam wrote:
>> On Nov 3, 10:11 pm, William Black  wrote:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>>>
>>> --
>>> William Black
>>>
>>> "Any number under six"
>>>
>>> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
>>> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
>>> single handed with a quarterstaff.
>>
>> There must be someone behind the scenes who likes Mr Griffin.
>>
>> All these propaganda presents and it isn’t even Christmas.
>>
>
> Oh come on.
>
> He's so toxic he can't even get into the site of a nuclear accident...
>
> -- 


Like it!.. "A BNP spokesman hit out at the decision, saying that if on-site 
security could not cope with Mr Griffin's visit then Sellafield had "serious 
problems".

>
>
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 22:35:49 -0000   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
William Black wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm


I don't think I've ever seen a Usenet poster as scared of any 
politician, as you appear to be of Nick Griffin ;)

You're obsessed with him! - if he stubbed his toe in the shower you'd be 
whopping and howling like a banshee...

Chin(s) up, William - the very worst that old Nick would do is ask you 
if you'd care to leave the building ;), it's not as if he's going to 
exterminate you.

So cheer up, and stop living in such abject terror, for goodness' sake.
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:36:19 +0000   author:   The gods have made us mad

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:36:19 +0000, The gods have made us mad
 wrote:

>William Black wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>
>
>I don't think I've ever seen a Usenet poster as scared of any 
>politician, as you appear to be of Nick Griffin ;)
>
>You're obsessed with him! - if he stubbed his toe in the shower you'd be 
>whopping and howling like a banshee...
>
>Chin(s) up, William - the very worst that old Nick would do is ask you 
>if you'd care to leave the building ;), it's not as if he's going to 
>exterminate you.
>
>So cheer up, and stop living in such abject terror, for goodness' sake.

Heh heh - he is a scaredy cat isn't he.
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:50:04 +0000   author:   jake

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
On Nov 3, 10:24 pm, William Black  wrote:
> Sam wrote:
> > On Nov 3, 10:11 pm, William Black  wrote:
> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>
> >> --
> >> William Black
>
> >> "Any number under six"
>
> >> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
> >> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
> >> single handed with a quarterstaff.
>
> > There must be someone behind the scenes who likes Mr Griffin.
>
> > All these propaganda presents and it isn’t even Christmas.
>
> Oh come on.
>
> He's so toxic he can't even get into the site of a nuclear accident...
>
> --
> William Black
>
> "Any number under six"
>
> The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of
> Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
> single handed with a quarterstaff.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You really do need to apply some lateral thought from time to time.
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 14:47:42 -0800 (PST)   author:   Sam

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
William Black wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
> 

Griffin (and anyone from UKIP) will be able to go anywhere they like 
soon. I think the Conservatives lost a lot of support today, to add to 
the loss of Labour support. Cameron had better say something quick, and 
he'd better make it good.
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:53:39 +0000   author:   Maria

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
William Black wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
> 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj4Ng6DBfrg

-- 
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.theconsensus.org/ - A UK political party
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:21:18 +0000   author:   Dirk Bruere at NeoPax

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
Maria wrote:
> William Black wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>>
> 
> Griffin (and anyone from UKIP) will be able to go anywhere they like 
> soon. I think the Conservatives lost a lot of support today, to add to 
> the loss of Labour support. Cameron had better say something quick, and 
> he'd better make it good.

Cameron looked at the last election but one,  the one the Tories fought 
with Europe as their only real issue,  and knows it's a killer issue, 
it kills any party that tries to campaign on it...

You see...

Nobody cares.

People vote with their wallets,  and Europe isn't costing them that much 
money...

-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:25:55 +0000   author:   William Black

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
The gods have made us mad wrote:
> William Black wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
> 
> 
> I don't think I've ever seen a Usenet poster as scared of any 
> politician, as you appear to be of Nick Griffin ;)
> 
Oh come on.

He's an almost cartoon like figure of fun.

-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:26:32 +0000   author:   William Black

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:11:41 +0000, William Black
 wrote:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>
And if you bother to read it you'll find out the problem is not with
Nick Griffin but the leftie rent-a-mob that follows him
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:00:23 GMT   author:   (Shaun)

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
William Black wrote:
> Maria wrote:
>> William Black wrote:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>>>
>>
>> Griffin (and anyone from UKIP) will be able to go anywhere they like 
>> soon. I think the Conservatives lost a lot of support today, to add to 
>> the loss of Labour support. Cameron had better say something quick, 
>> and he'd better make it good.
> 
> Cameron looked at the last election but one,  the one the Tories fought 
> with Europe as their only real issue,  and knows it's a killer issue, it 
> kills any party that tries to campaign on it...
> 
> You see...
> 
> Nobody cares.
> 
> People vote with their wallets,  and Europe isn't costing them that much 
> money...
> 

He does not have to campaign on it.  He merely has to say that there 
will be a referendum on it and then shut up.  He would be a bloody fool 
not to do that.  Are the French going to declare war on Britain if he does?

R
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:48:06 +1300   author:   Roger Dewhurst

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
Shaun wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:11:41 +0000, William Black
>  wrote:
> 
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>>
> And if you bother to read it you'll find out the problem is not with
> Nick Griffin but the leftie rent-a-mob that follows him

I wonder if Willie tags along behind the rent-a-mob?

R
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:49:53 +1300   author:   Roger Dewhurst

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
Roger Dewhurst wrote:
> William Black wrote:
>> Maria wrote:
>>> William Black wrote:
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>>>>
>>>
>>> Griffin (and anyone from UKIP) will be able to go anywhere they like 
>>> soon. I think the Conservatives lost a lot of support today, to add 
>>> to the loss of Labour support. Cameron had better say something 
>>> quick, and he'd better make it good.
>>
>> Cameron looked at the last election but one,  the one the Tories 
>> fought with Europe as their only real issue,  and knows it's a killer 
>> issue, it kills any party that tries to campaign on it...
>>
>> You see...
>>
>> Nobody cares.
>>
>> People vote with their wallets,  and Europe isn't costing them that 
>> much money...
>>
> 
> He does not have to campaign on it.  He merely has to say that there 
> will be a referendum on it and then shut up. 

The problem here is that he's just said he isn't going to have one.

It's the Euro political gravy train,  everyone wants a seat.


-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:21:46 +0000   author:   William Black

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
nt...
>>
>> -- 
> 
> 
> Like it!.. "A BNP spokesman hit out at the decision, saying that if 
> on-site security could not cope with Mr Griffin's visit then Sellafield 
> had "serious problems".
> 

    Our democracy would have serious problems in that event.
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:18:31 +0000   author:   Fred

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
Roger Dewhurst wrote:
> Shaun wrote:
>> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:11:41 +0000, William Black
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>>>
>> And if you bother to read it you'll find out the problem is not with
>> Nick Griffin but the leftie rent-a-mob that follows him
> 
> I wonder if Willie tags along behind the rent-a-mob?
> 
> R

He obviously has them rattled.
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:22:24 +0000   author:   Fred

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
On 4 Nov, 07:18, Fred  wrote:
> nt...
>
>
>
> >> --
>
> > Like it!.. "A BNP spokesman hit out at the decision, saying that if
> > on-site security could not cope with Mr Griffin's visit then Sellafield
> > had "serious problems".
>
>     Our democracy would have serious problems in that event.

We don't have a Democracy - we have a Monarchy!
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 00:27:08 -0800 (PST)   author:   broadssailor

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
Maria wrote:
> William Black wrote:
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>>
> 
> Griffin (and anyone from UKIP) will be able to go anywhere they like 
> soon. I think the Conservatives lost a lot of support today, to add to 
> the loss of Labour support. Cameron had better say something quick, and 
> he'd better make it good.

Even for voters who don't care about the issue this apparent volte-face 
on Lisbon will have negative fallout for the Conservatives.
I mentioned it to my dad yesterday who has been a Conservative supporter 
all his life and he voted BNP at the last election and makes no bones 
about doing the same again. How can I argue with someone who has lived 
through 90 years of blind blunderings by politicians and seen such 
unprecedented change?

j
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 08:37:42 +0000   author:   Djornsk

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
broadssailor wrote:
> On 4 Nov, 07:18, Fred  wrote:
>> nt...
>>
>>
>>
>>>> --
>>> Like it!.. "A BNP spokesman hit out at the decision, saying that if
>>> on-site security could not cope with Mr Griffin's visit then Sellafield
>>> had "serious problems".
>>     Our democracy would have serious problems in that event.
> 
> We don't have a Democracy - we have a Monarchy!



Not since yesterday, we don't.

The prerogative of a Monarch is to overrule his/her Parliament, if 
necessary.  A symbolic power these days, admittedly, but a power 
nonetheless - and one that, in theory, *could* have been exercised.

What authority does HM Queen Elizabeth II have over the EU Parliament 
that now governs us?

None.

Henceforth, we are no longer a Monarchy, but a merely a state within a 
Federation.
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:07:12 +0000   author:   The gods have made us mad

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
"jake"  wrote in message 
news:jqc1f5ph0fl9qjrmpavoo98octsq87kgc3@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:36:19 +0000, The gods have made us mad
>  wrote:
>
>>William Black wrote:
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lancashire/8341438.stm
>>
>>
>>I don't think I've ever seen a Usenet poster as scared of any
>>politician, as you appear to be of Nick Griffin ;)
>>
>>You're obsessed with him! - if he stubbed his toe in the shower you'd be
>>whopping and howling like a banshee...
>>
>>Chin(s) up, William - the very worst that old Nick would do is ask you
>>if you'd care to leave the building ;), it's not as if he's going to
>>exterminate you.
>>
>>So cheer up, and stop living in such abject terror, for goodness' sake.
>
> Heh heh - he is a scaredy cat isn't he.
>

I hate to say it but I can see this country and other parts of Europe ending 
up in perpetual civil unrest, such as will make the problems with the IRA 
seem like the good old days, especially if the world economy drops off the 
edge of the cliff before our shit for brains economists and politicians wake 
up to the fact that the demands of  10 billion (an estimated by 2050) people 
aren't going to be anywhere near sustainable long term by an already grossly 
overburdened planet..  As William himself admits, 'people vote with their 
wallets' not their brains.
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 09:17:51 -0000   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
Ivan wrote:
> I hate to say it but I can see this country and other parts of Europe 
> ending up in perpetual civil unrest, such as will make the problems with 
> the IRA seem like the good old days, especially if the world economy 
> drops off the edge of the cliff before our shit for brains economists 
> and politicians wake up to the fact that the demands of  10 billion (an 
> estimated by 2050) people aren't going to be anywhere near sustainable 
> long term by an already grossly overburdened planet..  As William 
> himself admits, 'people vote with their wallets' not their brains.

I'm not the one doing any 'admitting',  I'm the one being rational.

I very much doubt that there'll be much rioting in the streets as long 
as people have money in their pockets and 'Strictly Come Pop Idol', or 
whatever, on their TVs.

The Poll Tax riots weren't carried out by the smug and comfortable...

-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.
date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 12:20:56 +0000   author:   William Black

Re: Griffin can't even get into Sellafield...   
"William Black"  wrote in message 
news:hcrrj9$mlp$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> Ivan wrote:
>> I hate to say it but I can see this country and other parts of Europe 
>> ending up in perpetual civil unrest, such as will make the problems with 
>> the IRA seem like the good old days, especially if the world economy 
>> drops off the edge of the cliff before our shit for brains economists and 
>> politicians wake up to the fact that the demands of  10 billion (an 
>> estimated by 2050) people aren't going to be anywhere near sustainable 
>> long term by an already grossly overburdened planet..  As William himself 
>> admits, 'people vote with their wallets' not their brains.
>
> I'm not the one doing any 'admitting',  I'm the one being rational.
>
> I very much doubt that there'll be much rioting in the streets as long as 
> people have money in their pockets
>

A mere two or three years ago a few of the more enlightened were predicting 
exactly where the world's finances would be right now, however most of the 
major money men and political gurus simply wrote them off as being quite 
mad, it didn't stop the global financial meltdown from happening though did 
it?.
Home Secretary Alan Johnson tells us that he 'isn't going to lose any sleep' 
about the UK's population increasing by another ten million over the next 20 
years, but doesn't bother to explain just how we're going to provide a new 
city the size of Bristol, along with all of the required infrastructure 
'every single year' for those 20 years, and let's  hypothesise that this 
will be acceptable and  even achievable, we have to ask ourselves as to 
whether in the long term it will be at all sustainable without 'at the very 
least' severe problems in the area of 'social cohesion' (sic), I think I 
know on which side I would put my money.

>
>
> and 'Strictly Come Pop Idol', or whatever, on their TVs.
>
> The Poll Tax riots weren't carried out by the smug and comfortable...
>
date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:19:19 -0000   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

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