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date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:09:07 +0000,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
Dishonest Dave and the politics of deceit   
"David Cameron will drop within days his pledge to hold a referendum on 
the Lisbon treaty, The Times has learnt.

The Conservative leader is preparing to set out a fresh stance on Europe 
that will involve promising in his election manifesto to “repatriate” 
certain key powers from Brussels.

He will also pledge to write into law that no British government will 
ever again be able to push through a European treaty without a referendum"



Whoopee - a new law to protect the UK.

Except that never again *will* their be a 'European treaty' - now that 
Lisbon is here, there doesn't have to be!  Lisbon contains the infamous 
'gangway clause'  (Passerelle) allows the EU to 'annex fresh competences 
without the need to consult national governments' (Telegraph)

So, Lisbon was *it*, the final treaty, the last hope.  Cameron can pass 
as many anti-treaty laws as he wishes, and the EU won't mind a bit - 
they've got the master key, so if people want to waste time changing 
locks, that's up to them.

Which, of course, Cameron knows only too well . What a duplicitous man 
he has proven to be.


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6900270.ece
date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:09:07 +0000   author:   The gods have made us mad

Re: Dishonest Dave and the politics of deceit   
On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:09:07 +0000, The gods have made us mad
 wrote:

>"David Cameron will drop within days his pledge to hold a referendum on 
>the Lisbon treaty, The Times has learnt.
>
>The Conservative leader is preparing to set out a fresh stance on Europe 
>that will involve promising in his election manifesto to “repatriate” 
>certain key powers from Brussels.
>
>He will also pledge to write into law that no British government will 
>ever again be able to push through a European treaty without a referendum"
>
>
>
>Whoopee - a new law to protect the UK.
>
>Except that never again *will* their be a 'European treaty' - now that 
>Lisbon is here, there doesn't have to be!  Lisbon contains the infamous 
>'gangway clause'  (Passerelle) allows the EU to 'annex fresh competences 
>without the need to consult national governments' (Telegraph)
>
>So, Lisbon was *it*, the final treaty, the last hope.  Cameron can pass 
>as many anti-treaty laws as he wishes, and the EU won't mind a bit - 
>they've got the master key, so if people want to waste time changing 
>locks, that's up to them.
>
>Which, of course, Cameron knows only too well . What a duplicitous man 
>he has proven to be.

Very well summarized. 
The only way out is to leave the EU completely - not something that is
a clever move, but well. after Lisbon it is the only way out. The
traitors in Brussels must be orgasming with delight - that is if they
are even capable of such things.

The smirks on their faces disgusts me.

Imagine if the BNP actually won the next General Election! Ok a
fantasy., But never mind those needed swings etc. After all, each
election is independent of the previous ones.  I  think if that
happened or even near it, there would be a kick-start reactionacross
the whole of what's left of White Europe.
date: Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:22:34 +0000   author:   jake

Re: Dishonest Dave and the politics of deceit   
jake wrote:

> Imagine if the BNP actually won the next General Election!

Imagine if pigs could fly. The result would be much the same, a land 
covered in shit.

Happily, both imaginings are impossible.
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:06:44 +0100   author:   Lou Ravi

Re: Dishonest Dave and the politics of deceit   
On Nov 2, 11:09 pm, The gods have made us mad
 wrote:
> "David Cameron will drop within days his pledge to hold a referendum on
> the Lisbon treaty, The Times has learnt.
>
> The Conservative leader is preparing to set out a fresh stance on Europe
> that will involve promising in his election manifesto to “repatriate”
> certain key powers from Brussels.
>
> He will also pledge to write into law that no British government will
> ever again be able to push through a European treaty without a referendum> Whoopee - a new law to protect the UK.
>
> Except that never again *will* their be a 'European treaty' - now that
> Lisbon is here, there doesn't have to be!  Lisbon contains the infamous
> 'gangway clause'  (Passerelle) allows the EU to 'annex fresh competences
> without the need to consult national governments' (Telegraph)
>
> So, Lisbon was *it*, the final treaty, the last hope.  Cameron can pass
> as many anti-treaty laws as he wishes, and the EU won't mind a bit -
> they've got the master key, so if people want to waste time changing
> locks, that's up to them.
>
> Which, of course, Cameron knows only too well . What a duplicitous man
> he has proven to be.
>
> http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article6900270.ece

I heard him once state that it was a 'formal' treaty, that we can opt
out of.
date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 09:08:31 -0800 (PST)   author:   Sam

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