On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:23:30 +0000, White Spirit
 wrote:

>Bambleweeny57 wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:54:05 +0000, White Spirit wrote:
>
>>> Bambleweeny57 wrote:
>
>>>> So you experience of "Jamaican ganja-puffing murderer's[sic]" is based
>>>> on nothing but personal prejudice? At least Prof. Nutt has the decency
>>>> to gather evidence.
>
>>> Black people account for 45% of all crime in London and 79% of all
>>> violent crimes.  What other statistics do you need?
>
>> In the context of the discussion, some evidence that their criminality is 
>> directly caused by the use of cannabis.

>There is a clear link between drug use and crime.

Obviously. Drugs are illegal so by definition drug use IS crime.

Svenne

Svenne wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:23:30 +0000, White Spirit
>  wrote:

>> There is a clear link between drug use and crime.

> Obviously. Drugs are illegal so by definition drug use IS crime.

And people commit crime in order to obtain funds to buy the drugs they 
are addicted to.  It's a particularly pernicious scenario with Negroes 
as they are more likely to undertake criminal activity.

Saracene wrote:

> On 2 Nov, 13:42, White Spirit  wrote:

>> And people commit crime in order to obtain funds to buy the drugs they
>> are addicted to.

> Because their illegality makes them so expensive and so profitable to
> sell..

Perhaps, but if they were legalised I dare say the Government would tax 
them to buggery and they would probably be even more expensive.

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:42:01 +0000, White Spirit
 wrote:

>Svenne wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 11:23:30 +0000, White Spirit
>>  wrote:
>
>>> There is a clear link between drug use and crime.
>
>> Obviously. Drugs are illegal so by definition drug use IS crime.

>And people commit crime in order to obtain funds to buy the drugs they 
>are addicted to.  It's a particularly pernicious scenario with Negroes 
>as they are more likely to undertake criminal activity.

I don't know what the ethnic profile of hard drug addicts is and I
can't see that it is relevant.

I knew some Jamaican Rastas many years ago when I lived in the UK and
they were regular guys with regular jobs and always had some very good
ganja to share with us hippie whities.

Svenne

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:06:07 +0000, White Spirit
 wrote:

>Saracene wrote:
>
>> On 2 Nov, 13:42, White Spirit  wrote:
>
>>> And people commit crime in order to obtain funds to buy the drugs they
>>> are addicted to.
>
>> Because their illegality makes them so expensive and so profitable to
>> sell..
>
>Perhaps, but if they were legalised I dare say the Government would tax 
>them to buggery and they would probably be even more expensive.

then why are so few breaking and entering to feed their
    fag and booze habits

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abelard wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:06:07 +0000, White Spirit
>  wrote:
> 
>> Saracene wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 Nov, 13:42, White Spirit  wrote:
>>>> And people commit crime in order to obtain funds to buy the drugs they
>>>> are addicted to.
>>> Because their illegality makes them so expensive and so profitable to
>>> sell..
>> Perhaps, but if they were legalised I dare say the Government would tax 
>> them to buggery and they would probably be even more expensive.
> 
> then why are so few breaking and entering to feed their
>     fag and booze habits<<<


Because....wait for it, wait for it........fags and booze don't turn you 
into a Schizophrenic, like..........wait for it.........Cannabis does.

*There*, now surely even a profoundly muddled 'thinker' like you can 
grasp that particular truth?  (well, I'm an optimist)

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:00:33 +0000, The gods have made us mad
 wrote:


>Because....wait for it, wait for it........fags and booze don't turn you 
>into a Schizophrenic, like..........wait for it.........Cannabis does.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but tobacco smoking causes brain damage.

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/06/090623090400.htm

One too many fags and you'll end up a gibbering, drooling wreck.
You're not a  tobacco smoker, are you? It would explain a lot if you
were.

As for alcohol, that stuff can turn you psychotic and put you in the
loony bin wrapped in a straight jacket as mad as a bat:

www.psychtreatment.com/alcohol_related_psychotic_disorders.htm

So go easy on the fags and booze, one turns your brain to porridge and
the other drives what left crazy.

But since you're there already, it won't make much difference.

Svenne

The gods have made us mad wrote:
> abelard wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:06:07 +0000, White Spirit
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Saracene wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2 Nov, 13:42, White Spirit  wrote:
>>>>> And people commit crime in order to obtain funds to buy the drugs they
>>>>> are addicted to.
>>>> Because their illegality makes them so expensive and so profitable to
>>>> sell..
>>> Perhaps, but if they were legalised I dare say the Government would 
>>> tax them to buggery and they would probably be even more expensive.
>>
>> then why are so few breaking and entering to feed their
>>     fag and booze habits<<<
> 
> 
> Because....wait for it, wait for it........fags and booze don't turn you 
> into a Schizophrenic, like..........wait for it.........Cannabis does.
> 

Ever met someone who drinks a bottle a day?

Well,  pretty obviously not...

-- 
William Black

"Any number under six"

The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of 
Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat 
single handed with a quarterstaff.

William Black wrote:
> The gods have made us mad wrote:
>> abelard wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:06:07 +0000, White Spirit
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Saracene wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov, 13:42, White Spirit  wrote:
>>>>>> And people commit crime in order to obtain funds to buy the drugs 
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are addicted to.
>>>>> Because their illegality makes them so expensive and so profitable to
>>>>> sell..
>>>> Perhaps, but if they were legalised I dare say the Government would 
>>>> tax them to buggery and they would probably be even more expensive.
>>>
>>> then why are so few breaking and entering to feed their
>>>     fag and booze habits<<<
>>
>>
>> Because....wait for it, wait for it........fags and booze don't turn 
>> you into a Schizophrenic, like..........wait for it.........Cannabis 
>> does.
>>
> 
> Ever met someone who drinks a bottle a day?<


No - but if we do meet, you can tell me how you manage it.

I see that Philip's article has revealed Nutt to be worthy of his name.
Odd, how when Svenne and the Liberal Bigot Club (not to mention the daft 
old fool with the Yaks) were castigating me for refusing to accept 
Nutt's pronouncement that 'Horse riding is more harmful than ecstasy', 
they failed to mention that Nutt was 'shredded' (to use Philip's word) 
by other scientists for making that absurd statement.

It seems that only thing to be sorry about in the Nutt affair is the 
fact he wasn't booted out on his ear before now.

As I said - who is pulling Nutt's strings? - and why?

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:00:33 +0000, The gods have made us mad
 wrote:

>abelard wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:06:07 +0000, White Spirit
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Saracene wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2 Nov, 13:42, White Spirit  wrote:
>>>>> And people commit crime in order to obtain funds to buy the drugs they
>>>>> are addicted to.
>>>> Because their illegality makes them so expensive and so profitable to
>>>> sell..
>>> Perhaps, but if they were legalised I dare say the Government would tax 
>>> them to buggery and they would probably be even more expensive.
>> 
>> then why are so few breaking and entering to feed their
>>     fag and booze habits<<<

>Because....wait for it, wait for it........fags and booze don't turn you 
>into a Schizophrenic, like..........wait for it.........Cannabis does.

you can't help being a fool but you could work to correct
    your difficulties

as a typical socialist you have great fear of any dangers
     and want a daddy to protect you....

look up korsakoff's syndrome
cigarettes cause more diseases than i can count....

life is a fatal sexually transmitted disease

you want to live cradle to grave in cotton wool....
many braver or more adventurous people do not....

it is not your place to rule the lives of others....
live in your cotton wool cradle if you wish...but leave other
    people the fuck alone...
you're typical interfering socialist busybody....

sane people will not welcome your intrusions or napoleon complex

not only are you an intrusive interfering busybody....but worse
    you are so innumerate and illogical that you can't even make a
    case for your wish to intrude upon other because you are so
    all-fired ignorant of the real world

at least you could start by attempting to educate yourself....

not only would there then be some hope of you making interesting
    posts...why... in due course you may even get sufficient
    self-confidence to no longer wish to run the lives of others

you might even become useful...

>*There*, now surely even a profoundly muddled 'thinker' like you can 
>grasp that particular truth?  (well, I'm an optimist)

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abelard wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:00:33 +0000, The gods have made us mad
>  wrote:
> 
>> abelard wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:06:07 +0000, White Spirit
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Saracene wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov, 13:42, White Spirit  wrote:
>>>>>> And people commit crime in order to obtain funds to buy the drugs they
>>>>>> are addicted to.
>>>>> Because their illegality makes them so expensive and so profitable to
>>>>> sell..
>>>> Perhaps, but if they were legalised I dare say the Government would tax 
>>>> them to buggery and they would probably be even more expensive.
>>> then why are so few breaking and entering to feed their
>>>     fag and booze habits<<<
> 
>> Because....wait for it, wait for it........fags and booze don't turn you 
>> into a Schizophrenic, like..........wait for it.........Cannabis does.
> 
> you can't help being a fool but you could work to correct
>     your difficulties
> 
> as a typical socialist you have great fear of any dangers
>      and want a daddy to protect you....
> 
> look up korsakoff's syndrome
> cigarettes cause more diseases than i can count....
> 
> life is a fatal sexually transmitted disease
> 
> you want to live cradle to grave in cotton wool....
> many braver or more adventurous people do not....
> 
> it is not your place to rule the lives of others....
> live in your cotton wool cradle if you wish...but leave other
>     people the fuck alone...
> you're typical interfering socialist busybody....
> 
> sane people will not welcome your intrusions or napoleon complex
> 
> not only are you an intrusive interfering busybody....but worse
>     you are so innumerate and illogical that you can't even make a
>     case for your wish to intrude upon other because you are so
>     all-fired ignorant of the real world
> 
> at least you could start by attempting to educate yourself....
> 
> not only would there then be some hope of you making interesting
>     posts...why... in due course you may even get sufficient
>     self-confidence to no longer wish to run the lives of others
> 
> you might even become useful...<<<


WELL! - Abelard-the Wise is goaded into using the 'fuck' word!

Bullseye!  LOL!!!

As for the rest of your absurd drivel - it ill-becomes a 
self-opinionated hermit, hiding away from 'the real world' in rural 
France, to lecture others about the realities daily life!

You're an idiot, a charlatan, a hypocrite - and, most monumentally of 
all, a colossal fraud!

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:24:43 +0000, The gods have made us mad
 wrote:

>WELL! - Abelard-the Wise is goaded into using the 'fuck' word!
>
>Bullseye!  LOL!!!
>
>As for the rest of your absurd drivel - it ill-becomes a 
>self-opinionated hermit, hiding away from 'the real world' in rural 
>France, to lecture others about the realities daily life!
>
>You're an idiot, a charlatan, a hypocrite - and, most monumentally of 
>all, a colossal fraud!


your bluster will never cover your ignorance

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abelard wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:24:43 +0000, The gods have made us mad
>  wrote:
> 
>> WELL! - Abelard-the Wise is goaded into using the 'fuck' word!
>>
>> Bullseye!  LOL!!!
>>
>> As for the rest of your absurd drivel - it ill-becomes a 
>> self-opinionated hermit, hiding away from 'the real world' in rural 
>> France, to lecture others about the realities daily life!
>>
>> You're an idiot, a charlatan, a hypocrite - and, most monumentally of 
>> all, a colossal fraud!
> 
> 
> your bluster will never cover your ignorance<<


Well, OK - but promise you won't swear at me again!

I do so hate it when you're angry with me.

Mind you - I *think* that your thoughtful credentials have, er, slipped 
a bit with your outburst ;)  Even the Yaks looked up from their hay rack 
in utter astonishment!

On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:46:29 +0000, The gods have made us mad
 wrote:

>abelard wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:24:43 +0000, The gods have made us mad
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> WELL! - Abelard-the Wise is goaded into using the 'fuck' word!
>>>
>>> Bullseye!  LOL!!!
>>>
>>> As for the rest of your absurd drivel - it ill-becomes a 
>>> self-opinionated hermit, hiding away from 'the real world' in rural 
>>> France, to lecture others about the realities daily life!
>>>
>>> You're an idiot, a charlatan, a hypocrite - and, most monumentally of 
>>> all, a colossal fraud!

>> your bluster will never cover your ignorance<<

>Well, OK - but promise you won't swear at me again!
>
>I do so hate it when you're angry with me.
>
>Mind you - I *think* that your thoughtful credentials have, er, slipped 
>a bit with your outburst ;)  Even the Yaks looked up from their hay rack 
>in utter astonishment!

you should not feel so insecure....
that seems to be at the core of your posturing and your ignorance

i'm not angry with you....i doubt you enjoy your own ignorance

why not start by tackling the problem by educating yourself

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abelard wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:46:29 +0000, The gods have made us mad
>  wrote:
> 
>> abelard wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:24:43 +0000, The gods have made us mad
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> WELL! - Abelard-the Wise is goaded into using the 'fuck' word!
>>>>
>>>> Bullseye!  LOL!!!
>>>>
>>>> As for the rest of your absurd drivel - it ill-becomes a 
>>>> self-opinionated hermit, hiding away from 'the real world' in rural 
>>>> France, to lecture others about the realities daily life!
>>>>
>>>> You're an idiot, a charlatan, a hypocrite - and, most monumentally of 
>>>> all, a colossal fraud!
> 
>>> your bluster will never cover your ignorance<<
> 
>> Well, OK - but promise you won't swear at me again!
>>
>> I do so hate it when you're angry with me.
>>
>> Mind you - I *think* that your thoughtful credentials have, er, slipped 
>> a bit with your outburst ;)  Even the Yaks looked up from their hay rack 
>> in utter astonishment!
> 
> you should not feel so insecure....
> that seems to be at the core of your posturing and your ignorance
> 
> i'm not angry with you....i doubt you enjoy your own ignorance
> 
> why not start by tackling the problem by educating yourself<<<


Sound advice - and it's fortunate that your signature always contains a 
link to the collected works of the world's greatest thinker ;)

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