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date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 03:13:03 -0800 (PST),    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World “We Tax Everything in the USA”   
The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World
“We Tax Everything in the USA”



"On Thursday, in an effort to convince Pakistan to raise taxes on its
impoverished masses, Secretary of State Clinton told government
officials the United States enforces confiscatory taxation on the
American people. Clinton told senior Pakistani newspaper editors in
Lahore, “The percentage of taxes on GDP (in Pakistan) is among the
lowest in the world. We (the United States) tax everything that moves
and doesn’t move, and that’s not what we see in Pakistan,” she proudly
proclaimed. Hillary Clinton Proclaims “We Tax Everything in the
USA”...."

http://tinyurl.com/PJs1102
date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 03:13:03 -0800 (PST)   author:   PJ O'Donovan

Re: The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World ?We Tax Everything in the USA?   
PJ O'Donovan wrote:
> The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World
> “We Tax Everything in the USA”
>
>
>
> "On Thursday, in an effort to convince Pakistan to raise taxes on its
> impoverished masses, Secretary of State Clinton told government
> officials the United States enforces confiscatory taxation on the
> American people. Clinton told senior Pakistani newspaper editors in
> Lahore, “The percentage of taxes on GDP (in Pakistan) is among the
> lowest in the world. We (the United States) tax everything that moves
> and doesn’t move, and that’s not what we see in Pakistan,” she proudly
> proclaimed. Hillary Clinton Proclaims “We Tax Everything in the
> USA”...."
>
> http://tinyurl.com/PJs1102

Well? And so? Your point is?? - I assume that even America doesn't tax their 
ultra poor. Otherwise, like every civilised (?) country, everyone else is 
taxed to the hilt!

-- 
Harry Merrick.
date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 12:03:15 -0000   author:   Harry Merrick

Re: The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World “We Tax Everything in the USA”   
Harry Merrick wrote:
> PJ O'Donovan wrote:
>> The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World
>> “We Tax Everything in the USA”
>>
>>
>>
>> "On Thursday, in an effort to convince Pakistan to raise taxes on its
>> impoverished masses, Secretary of State Clinton told government
>> officials the United States enforces confiscatory taxation on the
>> American people. Clinton told senior Pakistani newspaper editors in
>> Lahore, “The percentage of taxes on GDP (in Pakistan) is among the
>> lowest in the world. We (the United States) tax everything that moves
>> and doesn’t move, and that’s not what we see in Pakistan,” she proudly
>> proclaimed. Hillary Clinton Proclaims “We Tax Everything in the
>> USA”...."
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/PJs1102
> 
> Well? And so? Your point is?? - I assume that even America doesn't tax 
> their ultra poor. Otherwise, like every civilised (?) country, everyone 
> else is taxed to the hilt!
> 

And if a country doesn't levy such taxes it becomes
a Pakistan or even worse a Somalia. Just the sort of
place peejay should be exiled to.
date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:09:12 +0000   author:   John Rennie

Re: The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World “We Tax Everything in the USA”   
On Nov 2, 7:09 am, John Rennie  wrote:
> Harry Merrick wrote:
> > PJ O'Donovan wrote:
> >> The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World
> >> “We Tax Everything in the USA”
>
> >> "On Thursday, in an effort to convince Pakistan to raise taxes on its
> >> impoverished masses, Secretary of State Clinton told government
> >> officials the United States enforces confiscatory taxation on the
> >> American people. Clinton told senior Pakistani newspaper editors in
> >> Lahore, “The percentage of taxes on GDP (in Pakistan) is among the
> >> lowest in the world. We (the United States) tax everything that moves
> >> and doesn’t move, and that’s not what we see in Pakistan,” she proudly
> >> proclaimed. Hillary Clinton Proclaims “We Tax Everything in the
> >> USA”...."
>
> >>http://tinyurl.com/PJs1102
>
> > Well? And so? Your point is?? - I assume that even America doesn't tax
> > their ultra poor. Otherwise, like every civilised (?) country, everyone
> > else is taxed to the hilt!
>
> And if a country doesn't levy such taxes it becomes
> a Pakistan or even worse a Somalia. Just the sort of
> place peejay should be exiled to.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Hope you're enjoying the Monarchy over there...
date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 04:23:30 -0800 (PST)   author:   Mike

Re: The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World ?We Tax Everything in the USA?   
In news:7l803vF3c0oj8U1@mid.individual.net "Harry Merrick"
 wrote: 

>  I assume that even America doesn't tax their ultra poor. 

Unless the "ultra poor" never spend a single penny on anything, yes,
they're taxed. 

-- 
Bert Hyman	St. Paul, MN	bert@iphouse.com
date: 02 Nov 2009 13:55:44 GMT   author:   Bert Hyman

Re: The essence of Leftism: Hilla ry Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World ?We Tax Everything in the USA?   
In news:hPadnWQvgOpHVnPXnZ2dnUVZ7vti4p2d@giganews.com John Rennie
 wrote: 

> And if a country doesn't levy such taxes it becomes
> a Pakistan or even worse a Somalia.

What do you mean "such taxes"?

Taxes which are imposed to provide funding for the legitimate function
of government are OK. 

Taxes which are imposed simply in an attempt to change the behavior of
the citizenry are an abomination, as are taxes that are levied in order
to provide protection (or do harm) to segments of the economy. 

-- 
Bert Hyman	St. Paul, MN	bert@iphouse.com
date: 02 Nov 2009 13:59:20 GMT   author:   Bert Hyman

Re: The essence of Leftism: Hilla ry Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World “We Tax Everything in the USA”   
Bert Hyman wrote:
> In news:hPadnWQvgOpHVnPXnZ2dnUVZ7vti4p2d@giganews.com John Rennie
>  wrote: 
> 
>> And if a country doesn't levy such taxes it becomes
>> a Pakistan or even worse a Somalia.
> 
> What do you mean "such taxes"?
> 
> Taxes which are imposed to provide funding for the legitimate function
> of government are OK. 
> 
> Taxes which are imposed simply in an attempt to change the behavior of
> the citizenry are an abomination, as are taxes that are levied in order
> to provide protection (or do harm) to segments of the economy. 
> 
Okay, okay, okay!  Delete 'such'.
date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 14:15:05 +0000   author:   John Rennie

Re: The essence of Leftism: Hilla ry Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the Worl d ?We Tax Everything in the USA?   
In news:xcadnag9ouDGdHPXnZ2dnUVZ8v1i4p2d@giganews.com John Rennie
 wrote: 

> Bert Hyman wrote:
>> In news:hPadnWQvgOpHVnPXnZ2dnUVZ7vti4p2d@giganews.com John Rennie
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>>> And if a country doesn't levy such taxes it becomes
>>> a Pakistan or even worse a Somalia.
>> 
>> What do you mean "such taxes"?
>> 
>> Taxes which are imposed to provide funding for the legitimate
>> function of government are OK. 
>> 
>> Taxes which are imposed simply in an attempt to change the behavior
>> of the citizenry are an abomination, as are taxes that are levied in
>> order to provide protection (or do harm) to segments of the economy. 
>> 
> Okay, okay, okay!  Delete 'such'.

Even so, I'm sure that Pakistan imposes a conventional array of taxes,
so taxes can't be the defining attribute of a functioning government. 

-- 
Bert Hyman	St. Paul, MN	bert@iphouse.com
date: 02 Nov 2009 15:25:24 GMT   author:   Bert Hyman

Re: The essence of Leftism: Hillary Clinton Proudly Proclaims To the World "We Tax Everything in the USA"   
Bert Hyman wrote:
> In news:7l803vF3c0oj8U1@mid.individual.net "Harry Merrick"
>  wrote:
>
>>  I assume that even America doesn't tax their ultra poor.
>
> Unless the "ultra poor" never spend a single penny on anything, yes,
> they're taxed.

Now you are being specious! We all know you have Federal and State taxes on 
most goods! - We have VAT which is similar, plus other, hidden, taxes on 
goods. What "I" was talking about are the taxes upon income, property, 
Corporation tax, Death Duties, and so forth. The poor, per se, would not be 
involved in that.
A country, every country, has to have taxation, otherwise it would have no 
cash to run itself!

-- 
Harry Merrick.
date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:00:38 -0000   author:   Harry Merrick

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