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date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:40:03 GMT,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
Re: The so-called 'Holocaust': Have you been Jewed?   
IT'S ALL BELOW, MAC TELLING PORKIES AGAIN. SO PUSHED ALL HIS SHIT DOWN TO 
THE BELOW.

Holocaust for Dummies

 http://globalfire.tv/nj/06en/jews/holofordummies.htm

http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/history/holostats.htm



Polish Crosses

http://www.scrapbookpages.com/Poland/Crosses/Crosses.html
In 1998, Polish nationalists embarked upon a mission to put up 152 Christian 
crosses in honor of the Polish Catholic resistance fighters who were 
executed by the Nazis in a gravel pit behind Block 11 at the main Auschwitz 
concentration camp.
The crosses that were put up in 1998 have since been removed and peace has 
been restored.



Auswichtz forensics

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v20/v20n2p-3_Rudolf.html



Description of Auswichtz 
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4138523842550891901#0h53m09s



Leuchter - Piper err - no gas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dyBMuSYLGk

Talmud Hoffman

http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html





"Topaz" <mars1933@hotmail.com   wrote in message 
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   During World War Two the Germans put Jews and Communists in
   concentration camps. The USA locked also up the Japanese and their
   political opponents and for less reason. At the end of the war there
   was a lot of deaths in the German camps from disease and starvation
   because Germany was being bombed to rubble. There is no evidence that
   the Germans had gas chambers or an extermination plan.

   Newsweek magazine May 15, 1989 says on page 64:

   "the way the Nazis did things: the secrecy, the unwritten orders, the
   destruction of records and the innocent-sounding code names for the
   extermination of the Jews. Perhaps it was inevitable that historians
   would quarrel over just what happened"

   The real reason there are no records of an extermination plan is
   because there was no extermination plan. The Germans planned to deport
   the Jews out of Germany. The records show that they planned to move
   them to Madagascar.

   Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
   "Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
   chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
   from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
   from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
   been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
   testing of the control sample #32  showed a cyanide content of 1050
   mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
   these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
   sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
   respect  that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
   torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
   cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
   and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
   stable iron-cyanide complex.
   "The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
   out in Table III.
   "It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
   few that were positive were very close to the detection level
   (1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absence
   of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
   compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
   evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
   small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
   buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
   all these facilities"

   Professional holocaust believers have admitted that the "gas chamber"
   which is shown to the tourists at Auschwitz was actually built by the
   allies after the war was over. This is what they wrote:
   Brian Harmon <harmon@msg.ucsf.edu   wrote in article
   <080620000051136373%harmon@msg.ucsf.edu  ...
   "You're confusing Krema I with Kremas II-V.  Krema I is a
   reconstruction,  this has never been a secret.  Kremas II-V are in
   their demolished state as they were left."
   Charles Don Hall <cdhall-nospam@erols.com   wrote in article
   <8F4CB71B7NukuNuku@news.erols.com  ...
   "Certainly not! The word "fake" implies a deliberate attempt to
   deceive.
   "The staff of the Auschwitz museum will readily explain that the Nazis
   tried to destroy the gas chambers in a futile attempt to conceal their
   crimes. And they'll tell you that reconstruction was done later on. So
   it would be dishonest for me to call it a "fake". I'll cheerfully
   admit that it's a "reconstruction" if that makes you happy."
   They admit that the "gas chamber" shown to the tourists at Auschwitz
   was built by the allies after the war was over. There is no physical
   evidence that the Germans had gas chambers.  No bodies of people who
   died from gas have been found. The Communists were the first to enter
   the camps. How do the other allies know the Communists didn't blow up
   the buildings? Then they could claim that these demolished buildings
   used to be gas chambers.

   But then the believers will say the Germans confessed. Their main
   confession is from Hoess. Here are the details:
   "In the introduction to Death Dealer [Buffalo: Prometheus, 1992], the
   historian Steven Paskuly wrote: "Just after his capture in 1946, the
   British Security Police were able to extract a statement from Hoess by
   beating him and filling him with liquor." Paskuly was reiterating what
   Rupert Butler and Bernard Clarke had already described.
   In 1983, Rupert Butler published an unabashed memoir (Legions of
   Death, Hamlyn: London) describing in graphic detail how, over three
   days, he and Clarke and other British policemen managed to torture
   Hoess into making a "coherent statement." According to Butler [Legions
   of Death, p. 237], he and the other interrogators put the boots to
   Hoess the moment he was captured. For starters, Clarke struck his face
   four times to get Höess to reveal his true identity.
   <quote
   The admission suddenly unleashed the loathing of Jewish sergeants in
   the arresting party whose parents had died in Auschwitz following an
   order signed by Höss.
   The prisoner was torn from the top bunk, the pajamas ripped from his
   body.  He was then dragged naked to one of the slaughter tables, where
   it seemed to Clarke the blows and screams were endless.
   Eventually, the Medical Officer urged the Captain: "Call them off,
   unless you want to take back a corpse."
   A blanket was thrown over Höss and he was dragged to Clarke's car,
   where the sergeant poured a substantial slug of whisky down his
   throat. Höss tried to sleep.
   Clarke thrust his service stick under the man's eyelids and ordered in
   Geffnan: "Keep your pig eyes open, you swine."
   For the first time Höss trotted out his oft-repeated justification: "I
   took my orders from Himmler.  I was a soldier in the same way as you
   are a soldier and we had to obey orders."
   The party arrived back at Heide around three in the morning.  The snow
   was swirling
   still, but the blanket was torn from Höss and he was made to walk
   completely nude
   through the prison yard to his cell.
   </quote

   An article in the British newspaper Wrexham Leader [Mike Mason, "In a
   cell with  a Nazi war criminal-We kept him awake until he confessed,"
   October 17, 1986] following the airing of a TV documentary on the case
   of Rudolf Hoess included eyewitness recollections by Ken Jones:
   <quote
   Mr. Ken Jones was then a private with the Fifth Royal Horse Artillery
   stationed at
   Heid[e] in Schleswig-Holstein.  "They brought him to us when he
   refused to
   cooperate over questioning about his activities during the war.  He
   came in the winter
   of 1945/6 and was put in a small jail cell in the barracks," recalls
   Mr. Jones.  Two
   other soldiers were detailed with Mr. Jones to join Höss in his cell
   to help break
   him down for interrogation.  "We sat in the cell with him, night and
   day, armed with
   axe handles.  Our job was to prod him every time he fell asleep to
   help break down
   his resistance," said Mr. Jones.  When Höss was taken out for exercise
   he was made
   to wear only jeans and a cotton shirt in the bitter cold.  After three
   days and
   nights without sleep, Höss finally broke down and made a full
   confession to
   the authorities.
   </quote

   The confession Hoess signed was numbered document NO-1210; later
   revamped, as  document PS-3868, which became the basis for an oral
   deposition Hoess made for the  IMT on April 15, 1946, a month after it
   had been extracted from him by torture...
   Since what people confess to after they have been captured by the
   Communists and their liberal comrades is not proof of anything, this
   leaves only the stories of survivors. These contradict each other and
   not believable. One professional survivor said that he could tell if
   the Germans were gassing German Jews or Polish Jews by the color of
   the smoke.
   The fact that there are so many "survivors" is not proof of an
   extermination plan. There may be six million survivors. Just about
   every Jew that is old says he is a survivor.

   The real "holocaust" was when the Communist Jews murdered millions of
   Christians. Communism was Jewish. Here is proof:

   Article Winston Churchill wrote in 1920:
   "This movement amongst the Jews (the Russian Revolution) is not new.
   From the days of Spartacus Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down
   to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kuhn (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany)
   and Emma Goldman (United States), this world wide conspiracy for the
   overthrow of civilization and the reconstruction of society on the
   basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible
   equality, has been steadily growing. It played, as a modern writer,
   Mrs. Nesta Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part
   in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of
   every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at
   last this band of extraordinary personalities has gripped the Russian
   people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the
   undisputed masters of that enormous empire. There is no need to
   exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the
   actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international
   and for the most part atheistic Jews. Moreover, the principal
   inspiration and driving power comes from Jewish leaders." (ibid)

   Lev Trotzky wrote a book called "Stalin: An Appraisal of the Man and
   His Influence", Harper Bros., New York and London, 1941, translated by
   Charles Malamuth.

   In this book he told who the principle members of the October Central
   Committee were. This group was the leadership of the Bolshevik Party
   during the October Revolution. This is what he wrote:

   "In view of the Party's semi-legality the names of persons elected by
   secret ballot were not announced at the Congress, with the exception
   of the four who had received the largest number of votes. Lenin--133
   out of a possible 134,  Zinoviev--132,  Kamenev--131,  Trotzky--131."

   Of these four top leaders of the Bolshevik Party the last three were
   known Jews. Lenin was thought to be a gentile married to a Jewess. It
   was later proven that he was one quarter Jewish, London Jewish
   Chronicle April 21, 1995, Lenin: Life and Legacy.

   David Francis, the American Ambassador to Russia at the time of the
   Revolution, wrote:
   "The Bolshevic leaders here, most of whom are Jews and 90 percent of
   whom are returned exiles, care little for Russia or any other country
   but are internationalists and they are trying to start a world-wide
   revolution."

   The Director of British Intelligence to the U.S. Secretary of State
   wrote this:
   "There is now definite evidence that Bolshevism is an international
   movement controlled by Jews."

   In 1945 the FBI arrested six individuals for stealing 1700 highly
   confidential documents from State Department files. This was the
   Amerasia case they were:

   Philip Jaffe, a Russian Jew who came to the U.S. in 1905. He was at
   one time the editor of the communist paper "Labor Defense" and the
   ringleader of the group arrested.
   Andrew Roth, a Jew.
   Mark Gayn, a Jew, changed his name from Julius Ginsberg.
   John Service, a gentile.
   Emmanuel Larsen, nationality unknown
   Kate Mitchel, nationality unknown.
   In 1949 the Jewess Judith Coplin was caught passing classified
   documents from Justice Department files to a Russian agent.

   The highest ranking communist brought to trial in the U.S. was Gerhart
   Eisler. He was a Jew. He was the secret boss of the Communist Party
   in the U.S. and commuted regularly between the U.S. and Russia.

   In 1950 there was the "Hollywood Ten" case. Ten leading film writers
   of the Hollywood Film Colony were convicted for contempt of Congress
   and sentenced to prison. Nine of the ten were Jews. Six of the ten
   were communist party members and the other four were flagrantly
   pro-communist.

   One of the top new stories of 1949 was the trial of Eugene Dennis and
   the Convicted Eleven. This group comprised the National Secretariat of
   the American Communist Party. Six were Jews, two gentiles, three
   nationality unknown.

   Also in 1949 the German-born atomic scientist Klaus Fuchs was
   convicted for passing atomic secrets to the Russians. Acting on
   information obtained from Fuchs the FBI arrested nine other members of
   the ring. All of them were convicted. Eight of the nine were Jews.

   Here are some quotes from a very pro-Jewish book that was first
   published in 1925. The book is "Stranger than Fiction" by Lewis
   Browne.

   "But save for such exceptions, the Jews who led or participated in the
   heroic efforts to remold the world of the last century, were neither
   Reform or Orthodox. Indeed, they were often not professing Jews at
   all.
   "For instance, there was Heinrich Heine and Ludwig Borne, both
   unfaltering champions of freedom. And even more conspicuously, there
   was Karl Marx, one of the great prophetic geniuses of modern times.
   "Jewish historians rarely mention the name of this man, Karl Marx,
   though in his life and spirit he was far truer to the mission of
   Israel than most of those who were forever talking of it. He was born
   in Germany in 1818, and belonged to an old rabbinic family. He was not
   himself reared as a Jew, however, but while still a child was baptized
   a Christian by his father. Yet the rebel soul of the Jew flamed in him
   throughout his days, for he was always a 'troubler' in Europe."
   "Then, of course, there are Ludwig Borne and Heinrich Heine, two  men
   who by their merciless wit and sarcasm became leaders among the
   revolutionary writers. Karl Marx, Ferdinand Lassalle, Johann Jacoby,
   Gabriel Riesser, Adolphe Cremieux, Signora Nathan- all these of Jewish
   lineage played important roles in the struggle that went throughout
   Europe in this period. Wherever the war for human liberty was being
   waged, whether in France, Germany, Austria, Hungary, or Italy, there
   the Jew was to be found. It was little wonder that the enemies of
   social progress, the monarchists and the Churchmen, came to speak of
   the whole liberal movement as nothing but a Jewish plot."

   The book "Soviet Russia and the Jews" by Gregor Aronson and published
   by the American Jewish League Against Communism, quotes Stalin in an
   interview in 1931 with the Jewish Telegraph Agency. Stalin said:

   "...Communists cannot be anything but outspoken enemies of
   Anti-Semitism. We fight anti-Semites by the strongest methods in the
   Soviet Union. Active anti-Semites are punished by death under the
   law."

   The following quotes are taken directly from documents available from
   the
   U.S. Archives:
   State Department document 861.00/1757 sent May 2, 1918 by U.S. consul
   general in Moscow, Summers: "Jews prominent in local Soviet
   government, anti-Jewish feeling growing among population...."

   State Department document 861.00/2205 was sent from Vladivostok on
   July 5, 1918 by U.S. consul Caldwell: "Fifty percent of Soviet
   government in each town consists of Jews of the worst type."

   From the Headquarters of the American Expeditionary Forces, Siberia on
   March 1, 1919, comes this telegram from Omsk by Chief of Staff, Capt.
   Montgomery Shuyler: "It is probably unwise to say this loudly in the
   United States but the Bolshevik movement is and has been since it's
   beginning, guided and controlled by Russian Jews of the greasiest
   type" type."

   A second Schuyler telegram, dated June 9, 1919 from Vladivostok,
   reports on the make-up of the presiding Soviet government: "...(T)here
   were 384 'commissars' including 2 negroes, 13 Russians, 15 Chinamen,
   22 Armenians, AND MORE THAN 300 JEWS. Of the latter number, 264 had
   come to Russia from the United States since the downfall of the
   Imperial Government.

   The Netherlands' ambassador in Russia, Oudendyke, confirmed this:
   "Unless Bolshevism is nipped in the bud immediately, it is bound to
   spread in one form or another over Europe and the whole world as it is
   organized and worked by Jews who have no nationality, and whose one
   object is to destroy for their own ends the existing order of things."

   "The Bolshevik revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of
   Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a
   new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in
   Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfaction
   and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental an
   physical forces, become a reality all over the world." (The American
   Hebrew, September 10, 1920 "In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the
   membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews
   comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population." (Stuart Kahan,
   The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

   Interestingly, one of the first acts by the Bolsheviks was to make
   so-called "anti-Semitism" a capital crime. This is confirmed by Stalin
   himself:
   "National and racial chauvinism is a vestige of the misanthropic
   customs characteristic of the period of cannibalism. Anti-semitism, as
   an extreme form of racial chauvinism, is the most dangerous vestige of
   cannibalism...under USSR law active anti-Semites are liable to the
   death penalty." (Stalin, Collected Works, vol. 13, p. 30).

   Here is a quote from Mein Kampf:
   "Making an effort to overcome my natural reluctance, I tried to read
   articles of this nature published in the Marxist Press; but in doing
   so my aversion increased all the more. And then I set about learning
   something of the people who wrote and published this mischievous
   stuff.  From the publisher downwards, all of them were Jews. I
   recalled to mind the names of the public leaders of Marxism, and then
   I realized that most of them belonged to the Chosen Race- the Social
   Democratic representatives in the Imperial Cabinet as well as the
   secretaries if the Trades Unions and the street agitators. Everywhere
   the same sinister picture presented itself. I shall never forget the
   row of names- Austerlitz, David, Adler, Ellonbogen, and others. One
   fact became quite evident to me. It was that this alien race held in
   its hands the leadership of that Social Democratic Party with whose
   minor representatives I had been disputing for months past."

   Solzhenitsyn named in his book the six top administrators of the
   Soviet death camps. All six of them were Jews.

   Here is something the National Socialists wrote:
   "The Soviet Union was in fact a paradise for one group: the Jews. Even
   at times when for foreign policy reasons Jews were less evident in the
   government, or when they ruled through straw men, the Jews were always
   visible in the middle and lower levels of the administration."



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Was it fair to arrest him at 76, they, and imean the zionist/jewish/israeli
clique have their bully boys in France beating up80 year old historians and
then jailing them for simply doing their job of examining history and the
holocaust.

http://www.codoh.com/thoughtcrimes/thoughtcrimes.html

http://forums.myspace.com/t/3824331.aspx?fuseaction=forums.viewthread







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   "The orthodox holocaust story can not possibly be defended with
   rational arguments because its absurdity is overwhelming. We are asked
   to believe in the fata morgana of a vast slaughter in killing
   factories which left no traces whatsoever - no documents, no bones, no
   teeth, no ashes - nothing! We are further asked to believe that the
   Allies, who had a large network of informers all over Europe and a spy
   in the German leadership (Admiral Canaris, the head of the German
   intelligence), did not become aware of this gigantic genocide until
   the end of the war, for if they had known about the mass murder, they
   would have acted to stop it. Finally, we are asked to believe that the
   Jews in Poland, the epicentre of the holocaust, did not know anything
   about the Auschwitz gas chambers as late as in August 1944, otherwise
   the Jews from the Lodz ghetto would not have gone to Auschwitz
   voluntarily - which is precisely what they did, as related by Raul
   Hilberg in his standard work about the holocaust (Die Vernichtung der
   europaeischen Juden, p. 543/544).

   As the Zionist-controlled system of the "Western democracies" is
   woefully unable to counter the revisionists with arguments, it resorts
   to censorship and brute force in order to silence the dangerous
   heretics. And the Jews are gradually transforming the holocaust into a
   religion. This is a very clever strategy, for as Robert Faurisson
   aptly remarks, one cannot refute a religion with scientific arguments.
   Thus, the holocaust museums and holocaust monuments spreading like
   mushrooms all over America and Europe are really temples of the new
   religion, whereas professional "holocaust survivors" such as Elie
   Wiesel are the priests of the new religion. To prove this assertion,
   we only have to quote Wiesel himself: "The Holocaust is a holy
   mystery, the secret of which is limited to the circle of the
   priesthood of survivors" (Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American
   Life, 1999, p. 211, 212, retranslated from the German). Another high
   priest of the holocaust cult, Simon Wiesenthal, goes even further:
   "When each of us comes before the Six Million, we will be asked what
   we did with our lives... I will say: I did not forget you" (Simon
   Wiesenthal in Response, Vol. 20, Nr. 1).

   No critical questions about the holocaust are allowed because they are
   a blasphemy: They cause immense distress to the eternal victims of
   persecution, the Jews, and are an attempt to whitewash National
   Socialism - the most evil ideology of all times which made the
   holocaust possible! In today's Germany, it is even considered
   inadmissible to compare the holocaust with the atrocities of communist
   tyrants such as Stalin or Cambodian dictator Pol Pot because this is
   regarded as a "relativisation" and "trivialization" of the worst crime
   in history.

   French Zionist propagandist Claude Lanzmann, the producer of a long
   and unspeakably dull film about the holocaust (the title of this film
   is Shoa, the Hebrew word for "catastrophe", which is often used by
   Jews as a synonym for "holocaust") makes no effort to conceal that the
   holocaust cult is to replace Christianity:

   "If Auschwitz is something other than a horror of history, then
   Christianity totters in its foundations. Christ is the Son of God, who
   went to the end of the humanely endurable, where he endured the
   cruellest suffering. (...) If Auschwitz is true, then there is a human
   suffering with which that of Christ simply cannot be compared. (...)
   In this case, Christ is false, and salvation will not come from him.
   (...) Auschwitz is the refutation of Christ." (Les temps modernes,
   Paris, December 1993, p. 132, 133.)

   Nowadays, a large percentage of the Jews do not believe in God any
   more, but virtually all of them believe in the Six Million. The
   Zionist leadership cunningly exploits the holocaust to unite the
   World's Jews by keeping them in a constant state of hysteria and
   persecution mania, insinuating that only if the Jews stick together
   will they be able to ban the threat of a new holocaust.

   It goes without saying that very few Non-Jews are willing to embrace
   the murky holocaust religion. While the overwhelming majority of
   people in the West still believe that the official holocaust version
   is essentially true (even if they suspect that the figures might me
   somewhat inflated), they are thoroughly fed up with the eternal
   lamentation about Jewish victims and Jewish suffering. They simply
   don't want to hear it any more. In Germany, opinion polls showed that
   a vast majority of the population was against the planned holocaust
   monument in Berlin (which not a single major party, not a single
   leading politician and not a single big newspaper dared to oppose).
   Privately, the politicians are probably as profoundly disgusted with
   the endless holocaust litany as the rest of the population, but they
   cannot possibly afford to let the revisionists win because this would
   shatter the very foundations of the "democratic" system to which they
   own their careers and their wealth...

   The ultimate weapon against Zionism and the state of Israel

   At the end of the year 2000, Israel is a besieged country, but from
   the military point of view, it is still vastly superior to its
   neighbours, and it enjoys the unconditional support of the United
   States. Should any of the Islamic states grow strong enough to
   seriously threaten Israel, it would most probably be attacked and
   militarily annihilated by America. Russia is not likely to risk a
   confrontation with the USA for the sake of the Palestinians. We can
   certainly admire the bravery of the Palestinians resistance fighters
   who are willing to sacrifice their lives to liberate their homeland
   from the alien intruders, but realistically, they have no chance to
   win. The Palestinians have stones and slings. The Israelis have
   helicopters and tanks. You can't destroy helicopters and tanks with
   stones and slings.

   When fighting one's enemy, one should always look for his weakest
   spot. The weakest spot of Israel, its Achilles heel, is the holocaust
   lie to which it owes its existence. The revisionists can give the
   adversaries of Israel and international Zionism a terrible weapon. It
   is quite true that many revisionists are by no means guided by
   political considerations. Some of them - Carlo Mattogno is a good
   example - are only motivated by intellectual curiosity: They want to
   ascertain what really happened to the Jews during the Second World
   War. But even if revisionism is not a political movement, its
   political implications are tremendous. The revisionists are
   endeavouring to find out the truth, and truth is the deadliest enemy
   of Israel and international Jewry. Thus, the revisionists objectively
   work against Israel and Zionism, even if subjectively their goals are
   often purely scientific and devoid of any political ambition. This is,
   of course, the reason why they are persecuted and their books burnt in
   more and more countries.

   In view of the total Jewish media control and the ever-growing
   anti-revisionist repression in many Western countries, it is very
   difficult indeed to achieve a revisionist breakthrough. We
   revisionists are facing an uphill struggle which can only partly be
   explained by our total lack of financial resources. Fortunately the
   internet, which the Jews are unable to censure, has greatly improved
   our possibilities to make the results of our research known to the
   World, but all the same, we should not cherish naive illusions: Not
   every citizen of the Western world who is informed about the
   revisionist arguments will automatically become revisionist and
   anti-Zionist. The average person in the West - and particularly in
   Germany - has been so thoroughly brainwashed that a sudden exposure to
   the truth can provoke a nervous breakdown or stomach cramps. I have
   repeatedly witnessed this myself. Other people would gladly accept the
   truth about the holocaust, but as they know that even the slightest
   suspicion of revisionism leads to social ostracism, economic ruin and
   legal persecution, they understandably prefer not to get involved.
   However, if we want to win the war against those whom one of my
   Russian friends called "the enemies of God and mankind"..

   The logical consequence of all this is that those countries which are
   authentically anti-Zionist and real friends of the oppressed
   Palestinian people should make the breakthrough of holocaust
   revisionism their foremost priority. A tank costs millions of dollars,
   yet one soldier can destroy it with a single missile. The revisionists
   can provide anti-Zionist freedom fighters with a weapon not even a
   thousand missiles can destroy."



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   http://wsi.matriots.com/jews.html



  http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/dth/fndstats.html

There are other indications as well that the theory of mass destruction of 
the Hungarian Jews is incorrect: the witnesses to this destruction 
unanimously claim that during these alleged mass exterminations the limited 
capacity of the Birkenau crematoria necessitated the excavation of enormous 
pits, in which the bodies were burned. Dark clouds of smoke, they claim, 
darkened the sky over Birkenau during this procedure. Fortunately (or 
unfortunately, depending on one's perspective) the aerial reconnaissance 
photographs taken by the Allies during this time prove that in the Birkenau 
camp, which was not obscured by clouds of smoke when the pictures were 
taken, there were neither open fires, nor giant pits, nor smoke activity on 
any scale large or small, nor piles of dead bodies, nor great supplies of 
firewood, nor anything else of the sort.[45] The Polish Historical Society 
concludes that in light of this evidence the number of victims in Auschwitz 
must be reduced by another 400,000 plus 74,000 (Polish Jews from the 
liquidated ghetto Lodz, who are also claimed to have been gassed around this 
time), leaving some 500,000 victims for Auschwitz.[46]

Even allegedly probative documents of the Nuremberg Tribunal cannot change 
this, since such documents are by no means always genuine, or true, and only 
ever provide evidence for deportations which are not disputed here in the 
first place - they never document an extermination. The reader is reminded 
of the example of Dachau, the concentration camp where the IMT alleged that 
hundreds of thousands were gassed, a claim which in the end turned out to be 
nothing more substantial than an atrocity propaganda lie.[47] We shall come 
across another case of dubious IMT documents in the discussion of the Soviet 
Union.

Red Cross

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/print.asp?ID=2735

http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm

Rassinier seems to wrap it up.
  http://www.ihr.org/books/rassinier/debunking1-0.html

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/5406

Jews will once again subject Robert Faurisson (aged 78) to a trial for 
"holocaust denial." The French judicial police served Faurisson a summons 
demanding that he appear in court this Thursday (24 Jan 08). Faurisson is 
charged with attending the December 11, 2006 conference in Iran titled, 
"Review of the Holocaust: Global Vision."

This will be the fifteenth time that Jews have hauled Faurisson into court. 
Jews have already frozen his bank account, while court officials have 
repeatedly visited his home, threatening him and his wife with seizure of 
their furniture to pay for financial "damages" caused by his "heretical" 
remarks.

Faurisson is arguably the most thorough of all examiners of the holo-hoax. 
Ernst Zündel, Gemar Rudolph and others are in prison, but Jews consider 
Faurisson enemy #1, because of the meticulousness of his work. And since the 
holo-hoax cannot be defended with reason and science, Jews use oppressive 
laws and prison sentences to protect it from rational criticism. In many 
cases they use extreme violence, as you will see later in this post. 
Fortunately the Goyim are too cowardly to resist Jewish terrorism.

At the Iran conference, Faurisson said that for the past 32 years, he has 
been waiting for someone to show him one of the chambers where Jews where 
supposedly gassed during the holo-hoax.

In July 2006, a Paris court convicted Faurisson of "holocaust denial" 
because of remarks made by Faurisson on the Sahar 1 Iranian satellite 
channel in February 2005. Faurisson was given a three-month suspended prison 
term, and was also fined 7,500 euros.

The former Prime Minister of France, Dominique de Villepin, said, "We [the 
French people] are in a democracy. Everyone has the right to express his 
views freely."

Therefore all defamatory remarks against Muslims or Islam are protected as 
"free speech."

However, any questioning of the holo-hoax or Jewish atrocities is illegal.

The Gayssot Act of 1990 - initiated by President Jaques Chirac -- prohibits 
any questioning or examination of the holo-hoax.

Faurisson's specialty is examining documents and manuscripts. In 1991 he was 
fired from his university post for questioning the holo-hoax. He was charged 
with violating the Gayssot Act, (Loi Gayssot) passed on 13 July 1990 that 
makes it illegal in France to question the holo-hoax. The law was proposed 
by the communist deputy Jean-Claude Gayssot, and is one of several European 
laws that make it illegal to examine the holo-hoax.

Its first article states that "any discrimination founded on the membership 
or non-membership to an ethnic group, a nation, a race or a religion is 
prohibited."

Discrimination against Muslims, of course, is permissible.

When Faurisson was terminated at the university, he appealed to the ICCPRHRC 
(International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and Human Rights 
Committee). This is a UN group that polices literature for any questioning 
of the holo-hoax. (It is not to be confused with the more high-profile 
Commission on Human Rights, a Charter-based mechanism, or its replacement, 
the Human Rights Council, which of course is controlled by Jews.)





http://www.von-waldenburg.com/reviews.html

A person who lived in Germany during the war.



http://www.icrc.org/Web/Eng/siteeng0.nsf/html/57JNX3

Frederich Born  leader of the ICRC in Hungary and honored by the jews.

Of course that strengthens the credibility of the  Yad Vashem  and who can 
say anything about a man being honored and who probably deserved the honor.

Most of their purchases of
relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.
Not only did large numbers of the three million or so European Jews
avoid internment altogether, but the emigration of Jews continued
throughout the war, generally by way of Hungary, Rumania and Turkey.



But they were living in the best part of Europe as far as food was 
concerned. And the terrible reflects the difficulties of keeping people in 
camps and all the terribles do not describe genocide, or even conditions as 
bad as Israel today.

And the fact that some leaders might have stretched the truth about what 
they thought Hitler said or thought about killing of jews, there is no proof 
of genocide as a policy and no treatment as there is in Israel today.  Of 
attacking people with planes, helicopters, and tanks. As happens in Israel 
on a daily basis.



The Toben case today: 
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/oct/17/germany-australia





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   Among the fooled, at least the partially fooled, was Berenbaum, former
   director of the United States Holocaust Research Institute at the U.S.
   Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. Berenbaum had been asked to read
   the manuscript by film producer Harris Salomon, who still plans an
   adaptation of the book.

   Berenbaum's tentative support - "Crazier things have happened," he told 
The
   Associated Press last fall - was cited by the publisher as it initially
   defended the book. Berenbaum now says he saw factual errors, including
   Rosenblat's description of Theresienstadt, the camp from which he was
   eventually liberated, but didn't think of challenging the love story.

   "There's a limit to what I can verify, because I was not there," he says. 
"I
   can verify the general historical narrative, but in my research I rely 
upon
   the survivors to present the specifics of their existence with integrity.
   When they don't, they destroy so much and they ruin so much, and that's
   terrible."

   "I was burned," he added. "And I have to read books more skeptically 
because
   I was burned."




   http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081228/ap_on_en_ot/books_holocaust_memoir_10


   Anger, sadness over fabricated Holocaust story


   By HILLEL ITALIE, AP National Writer  - Sun Dec 28, 1:09 pm ET


   NEW YORK - It's the latest story that touched, and betrayed, the world.

   "Herman Rosenblat and his wife are the most gentle, loving, beautiful
   people," literary agent Andrea Hurst said Sunday, anguishing over why 
she,
   and so many others, were taken by Rosenblat's story of love born on 
opposite
   sides of a barbed-wire fence at a concentration camp.

   "I question why I never questioned it. I believed it; it was an 
incredible,
   hope-filled story."

   On Saturday, Berkley Books canceled Rosenblat's memoir, "Angel at the
   Fence." Rosenblat acknowledged that he and his wife did not meet, as they
   had said for years, at a sub-camp of Buchenwald, where she allegedly 
sneaked
   him apples and bread. The book was supposed to come out in February.

   Rosenblat, 79, has been married to the former Roma Radzicky for 50 years,
   since meeting her on a blind date in New York. In a statement issued
   Saturday through his agent, he described himself as an advocate of love 
and
   tolerance who falsified his past to better spread his message.

   "I wanted to bring happiness to people," said Rosenblat, who now lives in
   the Miami area. "I brought hope to a lot of people. My motivation was to
   make good in this world."

   Rosenblat's believers included not only his agent and his publisher, but
   Oprah Winfrey, film producers, journalists, family members and strangers 
who
   ignored, or didn't know about, the warnings from scholars that his story
   didn't make sense.

   Other Holocaust memoirists have devised greater fantasies. Misha 
Defonseca,
   author of "Misha: A Memoire of the Holocaust Years," pretended she was a
   Jewish girl who lived with wolves during the war, when she was actually a
   non-Jew who lived, without wolves, in Belgium.

   Historical records prove Rosenblat was indeed at Buchenwald and other 
camps.

   "How sad that he felt he had to embellish a life of surviving the 
Holocaust
   and of being married for half a century," said Holocaust scholar Michael
   Berenbaum.

   The damage is broad. Publishing, the most trusting of industries, has 
again
   been burned by a memoir that fact-checking might have prevented. Berkley 
is
   an imprint of Penguin Group (USA), which in March pulled Margaret B. 
Jones'
   "Love and Consequences" after the author acknowledged she had invented 
her
   story of gang life in Los Angeles. Winfrey fell, as she did with James 
Frey,
   for a narrative of suffering and redemption better suited for television
   than for history.

   The damage is deep. Scholars and other skeptics as well as fellow 
survivors
   fear that Rosenblat's fabrications will only encourage doubts about the
   Holocaust.

   "I am very worried because many of us speak to thousands of student each
   year," says Sidney Finkel, a longtime friend of Rosenblat's and a fellow
   survivor. "We go before audiences. We tell them a story and now some 
people
   will question what I experienced."




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     By Faurisson

     The Unraveling of the Witnesses at the First Zündel Trial (1985)

     The important victory won by revisionism in France on April 26, 1983,
     would go on to confirm itself in 1985 with the first Zündel trial in
     Toronto. I would like to dwell a moment on this trial in order to
     underscore the impact on one's point of view, and especially as far as
     the testimonies on the Auschwitz gas chambers are concerned: for the
     first time since the war, Jewish witnesses were subjected to a regular
     cross-examination. Moreover, without wanting to minimize the
     importance of the second Zündel trial (that of 1988), I should like it
     to be understood that the 1985 trial already contained the seeds for
     all that was attained in the 1988 trial, including the report by
     Leuchter and all the scientific reports which, in the aftermath, would
     proliferate in the wake of the Leuchter Report.

     In 1985, as also afterwards in 1988, I served as advisor to Ernst
     Zündel and his lawyer, Douglas Christie. I accepted this heavy
     responsibility only under condition that all the Jewish witnesses
     would, for the first time, be cross-examined on the material nature of
     the reported facts, bluntly and without discretion. I had noted, in
     effect, that from 1945 to 1985, Jewish witnesses had been granted
     virtual immunity. Never had any defense lawyer thought or dared to ask
     them for material explanations about the gas chambers (exact location,
     physical appearance, dimensions, internal and external structure), or
     about the homicidal gassing (the operational procedure from beginning
     to end, the tools employed, the precautions taken by the executioners
     before, during and after execution).

     On rare occasions, as at the trial of Tesch, Drosihn and
     Weinbacher,[5] lawyers formulated some unusual questions of a material
     nature, hardly troublesome for the witness, but these always found
     themselves on the fringes of the more fundamental questions which
     should have been asked. No lawyer ever demanded clarifications on a
     weapon which, indeed, he had never seen and that no one had ever shown
     him. At the major Nuremberg Trial of 1945-46, the German lawyers had
     manifested total discretion on this point. At the proceedings against
     Eichmann in Jerusalem in 1961, the lawyer Dr. Robert Servatius had not
     wanted to raise the question; in a letter on this subject dated June
     21, 1974, he wrote me: "Eichmann hat selbst keine Gaskammer gesehen;
     die Frage wurde nicht diskutiert; er hat sich aber auch nicht gegen
     deren Existenz gewandt" [Eichmann himself had not seen any gas
     chamber; the question was not discussed; but neither did he raise the
     issue of their existence].[6]

     At the Frankfurt Trial of 1963-65, the lawyers showed themselves to be
     particularly timid. I should mention that the atmosphere was rather
     inhospitable for the defense and the accused. This show trial will
     remain as a blot on the honor of German justice as on the person of
     Hans Hofmeyer, initially Landgerichtsdirektor, then Senatspräsident.
     During more than 180 sessions, the judges and juries, the public
     prosecutors and the private parties, the accused and their attorneys,
     as well as the journalists who had come from around the world,
     accepted as a complete physical representation of the 'crime weapon' a
     mere map of the camp of Auschwitz and a map of the camp of Birkenau,
     whereupon five minuscule geometric figures were inscribed for the
     location of each of the alleged homicidal gas chambers, with the
     words, for Auschwitz: "Altes Krematorium", and for Birkenau:
     "Krematorium II", "Krematorium III", "Krematorium IV", and
     "Krematorium V"! These maps[7] were displayed in the courtroom.

     The Revisionists have often compared the Frankfurt trial with the
     1450-1650 trials against witchcraft. Nevertheless, at least during
     those trials, someone sometimes bothered to describe or depict the
     witches' sabbath. At the Frankfurt trial, even among the lawyers who
     made difficulties for a witness like Filip Müller, not one asked of a
     Jewish witness or a repentant German defendant to describe for him in
     greater detail what he was purported to have seen. Despite two
     judicial visits to the scene of the crime at Auschwitz, accompanied by
     some German lawyers, it seems not one of the latter insisted on any
     technical explanations or criminological expertise regarding the
     murder weapon. To the contrary, one of them, Anton Reiners, a
     Frankfurt lawyer, pushed complacency to the point of having himself
     photographed by the press while raising the chute cover by which the
     SS supposedly sprinkled Zyklon B granules into the alleged Auschwitz
     gas chamber.

     And so at Toronto in 1985, I had fully decided to do away with these
     anomalies, to break the taboo and, for starters, pose, or rather have
     Douglas Christie pose, questions to the experts and Jewish witnesses
     as one normally poses in every trial where one is supposed to
     establish whether a crime has been committed and, if so, by whom, how
     and when.

     Fortunately for me, Ernst Zündel accepted my conditions and Douglas
     Christie consented to adopt this course of action and to pose to the
     experts and witnesses the questions that I would prepare for him. I
     was convinced that, in this manner, all might change, and the veil
     woven by so many false testimonies could be torn away. While I was not
     counting on Ernst Zündel's acquittal and we were all resigned to
     paying the price for our audacity, I nevertheless had hope that with
     the aid of this far-sighted man of character, and thanks to his
     intrepid lawyer, history, if not justice, would at last carry him into
     historical prominence.

     From the moment of the first cross-examination, a tremor of panic
     began to creep its way amid the ranks of the prosecution. Every
     evening and throughout most of the night, I would prepare the
     questions to ask. In the morning, I would turn over these questions,
     accompanied by the necessary documents, to lawyer Doug Christie who,
     for his part and with the aid of his female collaborator, conducted
     the essentially legal aspects of the effort. During the
     cross-examinations, I maintained a position close to the lawyer's
     podium and unremittingly furnished, on yellow notepads, supplementary
     and improvisational questions according to the experts' and witnesses'
     responses.

     The expert cited by the prosecution was Dr. Raul Hilberg, author of
     The Destruction of European Jews. Day after day, he was subjected to
     such humiliation that, when solicited in 1988 by a new prosecutor for
     a new trial against Ernst Zündel, Prof. Hilberg refused to return to
     give witness; he explained the motive for his refusal in a
     confidential letter wherein he acknowledged his fear of having to once
     again confront the questions of Douglas Christie. From the
     cross-examination of Dr. Raul Hilberg, it was definitively brought out
     that no one possessed any proof for the existence either of an order,
     a plan, an instruction, or a budget for the presumed physical
     extermination of the Jews. Furthermore, no one possessed either an
     expertise of the murder weapon (whether gas chamber or gas van), or an
     autopsy report establishing the murder of a detainee by poison gas.
     However, in the absence of evidence regarding the weapon and victim,
     did there exist witnesses of the crime?

     A testimony must always be verified. The usual first means of
     proceeding to this verification is to confront the assertions of the
     witness with the results of investigations or expert opinion regarding
     the material nature of the crime. In the case at hand, there were
     neither investigations, nor expertise relative to the alleged
     Auschwitz gas chambers. Here is what made any cross-examination
     difficult. Yet, this difficulty should not serve as an excuse, and one
     might even say that a cross-examination becomes ever more
     indispensable because, without it, there no longer remains any way of
     knowing whether the witness is telling the truth or not.

     Jewish Witnesses Finally Cross-Examined:
     Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba

     For those persons interested in the technical and documentary means by
    which we were nevertheless in a position to severely cross-examine the
     two principal Jewish witnesses, Arnold Friedman and Dr. Rudolf Vrba, I
     can do no better than to recommend a reading of the trial
     transcript.[8] Pages 304-371 cover the questioning and
     cross-examination of Arnold Friedman; the latter breaks down on pages
     445-446 when he ends by acknowledging that he in fact saw nothing,
     that he had spoken from hearsay because, according to him, he had met
     persons who were convincing; perhaps, he added, he would have adopted
     the position of Mr. Christie rather than that of these other persons
     if only Mr. Christie had been able to tell him back then what he was
     telling him now!

     Dr. Vrba was a witness of exceptional importance. One might even say
     about this trial in Toronto that the prosecution had found the means
     of recruiting 'Holocaust' expert number one in the person of Dr. Raul
     Hilberg, and witness number one in the person of Dr. Rudolf Vrba. The
     testimony of this latter gentleman had been one of the principal
     sources of the famous War Refugee Board Report on the German
     Extermination Camps - Auschwitz and Birkenau, published in November
     1944 by the Executive Office of President Roosevelt. Dr. R. Vrba was
     also the author of I Cannot Forgive,[9] written in collaboration with
     Alan Bestic who, in his preface, declares with regard to him:

     "Indeed I would like to pay tribute to him for the immense trouble he
     took over every detail; for the meticulous, almost fanatical respect
     he revealed for accuracy." (p.2).

     ,Never perhaps, had a court of justice seen a witness express himself
     with more assurance on the Auschwitz gas chambers. Yet, by the end of
     the cross-examination, the situation had reversed itself to the point
     where Dr. R. Vrba was left with only one explanation for his errors
     and his lies: in his book he had, he confessed, resorted to "poetic
     license" or, as he was wont to say in Latin, to "licentia poetarum"!

     In the end, a bit of drama unfolded: Mr. Griffiths, the prosecutor who
     had himself solicited the presence of this witness numero uno and yet
     now apparently exasperated by Dr. Vrba's lies, fired off the following
     question:

     "You told Mr. Christie several times in discussing your book I Cannot
     Forgive that you used poetic license in writing that book. Have you
     used poetic license in your testimony?" (p. 1636).

     The false witness tried to parry the blow but prosecutor Griffiths hit
     him with a second question equally treacherous, this time concerning
     the number of gassing victims which Vrba had given; the witness
     responded with garrulous nonsense; Griffiths was getting ready to ask
     him a third and final question when suddenly, the matter was cut short
     and one heard the prosecutor say to the judge:

     "I have no further questions for Dr. Vrba" (p. 1643).

     Crestfallen, the witness left the dock. Dr. Vrba's initial
     questioning, cross-examination and final questioning filled 400 pages
     of transcripts (pp. 1244-1643). These pages could readily be used in
     an encyclopedia of law under a chapter on the detection of false
     witnesses.

     The Prosecution Gives up on Calling Witnesses

     Three years later, in 1988, during the second trial against Ernst
     Zündel, the public prosecutor deemed it prudent to abandon any
     recourse to witnesses. Canadian justice had apparently understood the
     lesson of the first trial: there were no credible witnesses to the
     existence and operation of the 'Nazi gas chambers'.

     Little by little, every other country in the world has learned this
     same lesson. At the trial of Klaus Barbie in France, in 1987, there
     was talk about the gas chambers of Auschwitz but no one produced any
     witnesses who could properly speak about them.[10] The attorney
     Jacques Vergès, courageous yet not foolhardy, preferred to avoid the
     subject. This was a stroke of luck for the Jewish lawyers who feared
     nothing so much as to see me appearing at the side of Mr. Vergès. If
     this gentleman had accepted my offer to counsel him, we in France
     might have been able to strike a tremendous blow against the myth of
     the gas chambers.

     All the while in France, during several revisionist trials, Jewish
     witnesses sometimes came to evoke the gas chambers but none of them
     testified before the court as to having seen one or having
     participated in a homicidal gassing by hauling bodies out of the 'gas
     chambers'.

     Today, gas chamber witnesses are making themselves extremely scarce
     and the Demjanjuk trial in Israel, which once again has revealed how
     much false testimony is involved in the matter, has contributed to the
     suppression. Several years ago, it happened that I was aggressively
     questioned at the rear of a law court by elderly Jews who presented
     themselves as "living witnesses to the gas chambers of Auschwitz",
     showing me their tattoos. It was necessary for me only to ask them to
     look me in the eyes and to describe for me a gas chamber that
     inevitably they retorted:

     "How could I do this? If I had seen a gas chamber with my own eyes I
     would not be here today to speak with you; I myself would have been
     gassed also."

     This brings us back, as one can see, to Simone Veil and her
     declaration of May 7, 1983, about which we already know what we should
     think.

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   "The orthodox holocaust story can not possibly be defended with
   rational arguments because its absurdity is overwhelming. We are asked
   to believe in the fata morgana of a vast slaughter in killing
   factories which left no traces whatsoever - no documents, no bones, no
   teeth, no ashes - nothing! We are further asked to believe that the
   Allies, who had a large network of informers all over Europe and a spy
   in the German leadership (Admiral Canaris, the head of the German
   intelligence), did not become aware of this gigantic genocide until
   the end of the war, for if they had known about the mass murder, they
   would have acted to stop it. Finally, we are asked to believe that the
   Jews in Poland, the epicentre of the holocaust, did not know anything
   about the Auschwitz gas chambers as late as in August 1944, otherwise
   the Jews from the Lodz ghetto would not have gone to Auschwitz
   voluntarily - which is precisely what they did, as related by Raul
   Hilberg in his standard work about the holocaust (Die Vernichtung der
   europaeischen Juden, p. 543/544).

   As the Zionist-controlled system of the "Western democracies" is
   woefully unable to counter the revisionists with arguments, it resorts
   to censorship and brute force in order to silence the dangerous
   heretics. And the Jews are gradually transforming the holocaust into a
   religion. This is a very clever strategy, for as Robert Faurisson
   aptly remarks, one cannot refute a religion with scientific arguments.
   Thus, the holocaust museums and holocaust monuments spreading like
   mushrooms all over America and Europe are really temples of the new
   religion, whereas professional "holocaust survivors" such as Elie
   Wiesel are the priests of the new religion. To prove this assertion,
   we only have to quote Wiesel himself: "The Holocaust is a holy
   mystery, the secret of which is limited to the circle of the
   priesthood of survivors" (Peter Novick, The Holocaust in American
   Life, 1999, p. 211, 212, retranslated from the German). Another high
   priest of the holocaust cult, Simon Wiesenthal, goes even further:
   "When each of us comes before the Six Million, we will be asked what
   we did with our lives... I will say: I did not forget you" (Simon
   Wiesenthal in Response, Vol. 20, Nr. 1).

   No critical questions about the holocaust are allowed because they are
   a blasphemy: They cause immense distress to the eternal victims of
   persecution, the Jews, and are an attempt to whitewash National
   Socialism - the most evil ideology of all times which made the
   holocaust possible! In today's Germany, it is even considered
   inadmissible to compare the holocaust with the atrocities of communist
   tyrants such as Stalin or Cambodian dictator Pol Pot because this is
   regarded as a "relativisation" and "trivialization" of the worst crime
   in history.

   French Zionist propagandist Claude Lanzmann, the producer of a long
   and unspeakably dull film about the holocaust (the title of this film
   is Shoa, the Hebrew word for "catastrophe", which is often used by
   Jews as a synonym for "holocaust") makes no effort to conceal that the
   holocaust cult is to replace Christianity:

   "If Auschwitz is something other than a horror of history, then
   Christianity totters in its foundations. Christ is the Son of God, who
   went to the end of the humanely endurable, where he endured the
   cruellest suffering. (...) If Auschwitz is true, then there is a human
   suffering with which that of Christ simply cannot be compared. (...)
   In this case, Christ is false, and salvation will not come from him.
   (...) Auschwitz is the refutation of Christ." (Les temps modernes,
   Paris, December 1993, p. 132, 133.)

   Nowadays, a large percentage of the Jews do not believe in God any
   more, but virtually all of them believe in the Six Million. The
   Zionist leadership cunningly exploits the holocaust to unite the
   World's Jews by keeping them in a constant state of hysteria and
   persecution mania, insinuating that only if the Jews stick together
   will they be able to ban the threat of a new holocaust.

   It goes without saying that very few Non-Jews are willing to embrace
   the murky holocaust religion. While the overwhelming majority of
   people in the West still believe that the official holocaust version
   is essentially true (even if they suspect that the figures might me
   somewhat inflated), they are thoroughly fed up with the eternal
   lamentation about Jewish victims and Jewish suffering. They simply
   don't want to hear it any more. In Germany, opinion polls showed that
   a vast majority of the population was against the planned holocaust
   monument in Berlin (which not a single major party, not a single
   leading politician and not a single big newspaper dared to oppose).
   Privately, the politicians are probably as profoundly disgusted with
   the endless holocaust litany as the rest of the population, but they
   cannot possibly afford to let the revisionists win because this would
   shatter the very foundations of the "democratic" system to which they
   own their careers and their wealth...

   The ultimate weapon against Zionism and the state of Israel

   At the end of the year 2000, Israel is a besieged country, but from
   the military point of view, it is still vastly superior to its
   neighbours, and it enjoys the unconditional support of the United
   States. Should any of the Islamic states grow strong enough to
   seriously threaten Israel, it would most probably be attacked and
   militarily annihilated by America. Russia is not likely to risk a
   confrontation with the USA for the sake of the Palestinians. We can
   certainly admire the bravery of the Palestinians resistance fighters
   who are willing to sacrifice their lives to liberate their homeland
   from the alien intruders, but realistically, they have no chance to
   win. The Palestinians have stones and slings. The Israelis have
   helicopters and tanks. You can't destroy helicopters and tanks with
   stones and slings.

   When fighting one's enemy, one should always look for his weakest
   spot. The weakest spot of Israel, its Achilles heel, is the holocaust
   lie to which it owes its existence. The revisionists can give the
   adversaries of Israel and international Zionism a terrible weapon. It
   is quite true that many revisionists are by no means guided by
   political considerations. Some of them - Carlo Mattogno is a good
   example - are only motivated by intellectual curiosity: They want to
   ascertain what really happened to the Jews during the Second World
   War. But even if revisionism is not a political movement, its
   political implications are tremendous. The revisionists are
   endeavouring to find out the truth, and truth is the deadliest enemy
   of Israel and international Jewry. Thus, the revisionists objectively
   work against Israel and Zionism, even if subjectively their goals are
   often purely scientific and devoid of any political ambition. This is,
   of course, the reason why they are persecuted and their books burnt in
   more and more countries.

   In view of the total Jewish media control and the ever-growing
   anti-revisionist repression in many Western countries, it is very
   difficult indeed to achieve a revisionist breakthrough. We
   revisionists are facing an uphill struggle which can only partly be
   explained by our total lack of financial resources. Fortunately the
   internet, which the Jews are unable to censure, has greatly improved
   our possibilities to make the results of our research known to the
   World, but all the same, we should not cherish naive illusions: Not
   every citizen of the Western world who is informed about the
   revisionist arguments will automatically become revisionist and
   anti-Zionist. The average person in the West - and particularly in
   Germany - has been so thoroughly brainwashed that a sudden exposure to
   the truth can provoke a nervous breakdown or stomach cramps. I have
   repeatedly witnessed this myself. Other people would gladly accept the
   truth about the holocaust, but as they know that even the slightest
   suspicion of revisionism leads to social ostracism, economic ruin and
   legal persecution, they understandably prefer not to get involved.
   However, if we want to win the war against those whom one of my
   Russian friends called "the enemies of God and mankind"..

   The logical consequence of all this is that those countries which are
   authentically anti-Zionist and real friends of the oppressed
   Palestinian people should make the breakthrough of holocaust
   revisionism their foremost priority. A tank costs millions of dollars,
   yet one soldier can destroy it with a single missile. The revisionists
   can provide anti-Zionist freedom fighters with a weapon not even a
   thousand missiles can destroy."



Ø      No Documentary Evidence

   Many thousands of secret German documents dealing with Auschwitz were
   confiscated after the war by the Allies. Not a single one refers to a 
policy
   or program of extermination. In fact, the extermination story cannot be
   reconciled with the documentary evidence.

   Many Jewish Inmates Unable to Work

   For example, it is often claimed that all Jews at Auschwitz who were 
unable
   to work were immediately killed. Jews who were too old, young, sick, or 
weak
   were supposedly gassed on arrival, and only those who could be worked to
   death were temporarily kept alive.

   But the evidence shows that, in fact, a very high percentage of the 
Jewish
   inmates were not able to work, and were nevertheless not killed. For
   example, an internal German telex message dated Sept. 4, 1943, from the
   chief of the Labor Allocation department of the SS Economic and
   Administrative Main Office (WVHA), reported that of 25,000 Jewish inmates 
in
   Auschwitz, only 3,581 were able to work, and that all of the remaining
   Jewish inmates -- some 21,500, or about 86 percent -- were unable to 
work.
   [8]

   This is also confirmed in a secret report dated April 5, 1944, on 
"security
   measures in Auschwitz" by Oswald Pohl, head of the SS concentration camp
   system, to SS chief Heinrich Himmler. Pohl reported that there was a 
total
   of 67,000 inmates in the entire Auschwitz camp complex, of whom 18,000 
were
   hospitalized or disabled. In the Auschwitz II camp (Birkenau), supposedly
   the main extermination center, there were 36,000 inmates, mostly female, 
of
   whom "approximately 15,000 are unable to work." [9]

   These two documents simply cannot be reconciled with the Auschwitz
   extermination story.

   The evidence shows that Auschwitz-Birkenau was established primarily as a
   camp for Jews who were not able to work, including the sick and elderly, 
as
   well as for those who were temporarily awaiting assignment to other 
camps.
   That's the considered view of Dr. Arthur Butz of Northwestern University,
   who also says that this was the reason for the unusually high death rate
   there. [10]

   Princeton University history professor Arno Mayer, who is Jewish,
   acknowledges in a recent book about the "final solution" that more Jews
   perished at Auschwitz as a result of typhus and other "natural" causes 
than
   were executed. [11]

   Anne Frank

   Perhaps the best known Auschwitz inmate was Anne Frank, who is known 
around
   the world for her famous diary. But few people know that thousands of 
Jews,
   including Anne and her father, Otto Frank, "survived" Auschwitz.

   The 15-year-old girl and her father were deported from the Netherlands to
   Auschwitz in September 1944. Several weeks later, in the face of the
   advancing Soviet army, Anne was evacuated along with many other Jews to 
the
   Bergen-Belsen camp, where she died of typhus in March 1945.

   Her father came down with typhus in Auschwitz and was sent to the camp
   hospital to recover. He was one of thousands of sick and feeble Jews who
   were left behind when the Germans abandoned the camp in January 1945,
   shortly before it was overrun by the Soviets. He died in Switzerland in
   1980.

   If the German policy had been to kill Anne Frank and her father, they 
would
   not have survived Auschwitz. Their fate, tragic though it was, cannot be
   reconciled with the extermination story.








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     Other Holocaust memoirists have devised greater fantasies. Misha
     Defonseca, author of "Misha: A Memoire of the Holocaust Years,"
     pretended she was a Jewish girl who lived with wolves during the war,
     when she was actually a non-Jew who lived, without wolves, in Belgium.

     The damage is deep. Scholars and other skeptics as well as fellow
     survivors fear that Rosenblat's fabrications will only encourage doubts
     about the Holocaust.


   One does not have to experience it, in order to write
   about it. And just like all of the science fiction books
   and romantic novels those stories are based on the
   writers imagination, which being legally guarded by
   authors' right to invention.
   Therefore, regardless of  fictitious nature of a novel,
   sectarians of different religious denominations than
   their own, have indeed exploited the antagonism of
   the mob for their own self-serving interests of quick
   capitalization from slave labor, or thrills of perverse
   sadistic satisfaction from seeing agony in the eyes
   of their defenseless victims with complete impunity.
   Cruelty indeed had place in society, and still being
   deliberately perpetuated by eternal gulag economy
   and its insatiable incarceration industry, in the form
   of slavery and genocide against defenseless albeit
   deliberately antagonized people or entire groups of
   people, on the basis of their visible dissimilarities....
   It's often enough for a person to have distinguished
   appearance (or even a name) in order for him to be
   appropriately labeled in the capacity of the targeted
   victim of the mob's prejudices....
   The persecution of the defenseless individuals isn't
   really a one-time event, as it may be implied by any
   of those books, - but an ongoing process - which is
   always exposed, and could be proved if necessary.

   But, obviously, for you this fact is quite undesirable.....
   -- 
   _____________________________________________________

   I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers
   and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

   "The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
   Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
   high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
   does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
   undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
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         If they could find at least one gas chamber some place, or at least
the
         foundations of a gas chamber, they might have something to go by. 
BUT
         THERE IS NONE.

   That is absolute nonsense.  The Holocaust is one of the most documented
   events in history.


And museums and memorials and jews willing to swear on a stack of bibles, er
Torahs,  that they saw one in whatever camp they claimed to be in.

What we do know for sure is that the zionists thought it was all a hell of a
good idea for recruiting cannon fodder for Palestine/israel.

No Evidence Of Genocide
One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it
clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in
the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic
condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the
war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed
an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the
German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ...
In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and
General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results.
Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate
was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).

Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire
situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit
in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied
bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned
Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous
aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October
2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending
collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that
starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming
inevitable.

In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is
important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross
found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a
deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the
Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits
that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and
privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned
extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend. Like the
Vatican representatives with whom they worked, the Red Cross found
itself unable to indulge in the irresponsible charges of genocide
which had become the order of the day. So far as the genuine mortality
rate is concerned, the Report points out that most of the Jewish
doctors from the camps were being used to combat typhus on the eastern
front, so that they were unavailable when the typhus epidemics of 1945
broke out in the camps (Vol. I, p. 204 ff) - Incidentally, it is
frequently claimed that mass executions were carried out in gas
chambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Report
makes nonsense of this allegation. "Not only the washing places, but
installations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by the
delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made less
primitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged" (Vol. III, p. 594).

Not All Were Interned
Volume III of the Red Cross Report, Chapter 3 (I. Jewish Civilian
Population) deals with the "aid given to the Jewish section of the
free population," and this chapter makes it quite plain that by no
means all of the European Jews were placed in internment camps, but
remained, subject to certain restrictions, as part of the free
civilian population. This conflicts directly with the "thoroughness"
of the supposed "extermination programme", and with the claim in the
forged Höss memoirs that Eichmann was obsessed with seizing "every
single Jew he could lay his hands on."

In Slovakia, for example, where Eichmann's assistant Dieter Wisliceny
was in charge, the Report states that "A large proportion of the
Jewish minority had permission to stay in the country, and at certain
periods Slovakia was looked upon as a comparative haven of refuge for
Jews, especially for those coming from Poland. Those who remained in
Slovakia seem to have been in comparative safety until the end of
August 1944, when a rising against the German forces took place. While
it is true that the law of May 15th, 1942 had brought about the
internment of several thousand Jews, these people were held in camps
where the conditions of food and lodging were tolerable, and where the
internees were allowed to do paid work on terms almost equal to those
of the free labour market" (Vol. I, p. 646).

Not only did large numbers of the three million or so European Jews
avoid internment altogether, but the emigration of Jews continued
throughout the war, generally by way of Hungary, Rumania and Turkey.
Ironically, post-war Jewish emigration from German-occupied
territories was also facilitated by the Reich, as in the case of the
Polish Jews who had escaped to France before its occupation. "The Jews
from Poland who, whilst in France, had obtained entrance permits to
the United States were held to be American citizens by the German
occupying authorities, who further agreed to recognize the validity of
about three thousand passports issued to Jews by the consulates of
South American countries" (Vol. I, p. 645).

As future U.S. citizens, these Jews were held at the Vittel camp in
southern France for American aliens. The emigration of European Jews
from Hungary in particular proceeded during the war unhindered by the
German authorities. "Until March 1944," says the. Red Cross Report,
"Jews who had the privilege of visas for Palestine were free to leave
Hungary" (Vol. I, p. 648). Even after the replacement of the Horthy
Government in 1944 (following its attempted armistice with the Soviet
Union) with a government more dependent on German authority, the
emigration of Jews continued.

The Committee secured the pledges of both Britain and the United
States "to give support by every means to the emigration of Jews from
Hungary," and from the U.S. Government the ICRC received a message
stating that "The Government of the United States ... now specifically
repeats its assurance that arrangements will be made by it for the
care of all Jews who in the present circumstances are allowed to
leave" (Vol. I, p . 649).

Casualties in WW2
Not including the documented  5 million non Jewish  in concentration camps
who far out numbered the suspected true number of Jewish victims  of about 
700,000. And this
is without lies and exaggerations about non jewish casualties. And freedom
for any historian or amateur history buff to examine and point out flaws
without fear of castigation or jail terms.
And no one is going around asking for special favors and sympathy because of
these immense casualities. And certainly don't look like getting anything
from jewish interests who by lies have swollen their numbers to higher than
these.




 Those of the Jews who tried to warn their friends of the truth were
persecuted by the Jewish leaders in charge of the local 'rescue work'.
A Jewish woman named Marika Frank arrived at Auschwitz-Birkenau from Hungary
in July 1944, when 25,000 Jews were supposedly gassed and cremated daily.
She likewise testified after the war that she heard and saw nothing of "gas
chambers" during the time she was interned there. She heard the gassing
stories only later. [15]
Inmates Released

More than 200,000 prisoners were transferred from Auschwitz to other camps,
and about 8,000 were in the camp when it was liberated by Soviet forces. In
addition, about 1,500 prisoners who had served their sentences were
released, and returned to their home countries. [16] If Auschwitz had
actually been a top secret extermination center, would the Germans have
released inmates who "knew" what was happening there?
Himmler Orders Death Rate Reduced


The truth is that somewhere between 700,000 and 1,500,000 people died in
German work camps in 1944 and 1945. Most of them were Jews. Many were not.
Most of them died in the last six months of the war from disease and hunger
caused by America's bombing of Germany and subsequent destruction of her
infrastructure. There were some atrocities but very few. Few people realize
that
 the International Red Cross had a field office in Auschwiz from 1942 until
the end of the war.
 That office never reported or recorded any atrocities (Several years ago
international Jewry forced the Red Cross to apologize to the Jews -
apologize for not seeing something that never happened.)

Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation
as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that
food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German
transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on
March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter
Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German
Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation
system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany
were becoming inevitable.


http://666ismoney.com/HolocaustAds.html
I, Raquel Baranow am a Grad Student of Holocaust Denial. There are persons
with PhD's in various fields who
also deny the 6 million canard. The best evidence is forensic. Until
recently, there was never a forensic
examination of the alleged murder weapon (gas chambers). Demographic figures
are incomplete. After the fall
of East Europe to communism, many of the millions of Jews who fled Poland
into the Soviet Union or ended up
behind the Iron Curtain changed their names to assimilate, many civilians
died in the war, many died in the
concentration camps of louse-born typhus. During World War One, two million
civilians in the Soviet Union died
of typhus. Many died in Stalin's gulags.
Yad Vashem,( http://www.yadvashem.org/wps/portal/IY_HON_Welcome)a Holocaust
Documentation Center in Israel has a database of  3,000,000 alleged victims
of  Nazi
extermination. But as you can see HERE
(http://666ismoney.com/YadVashem.html) (my maiden name, Friedemann), nearly
every name is listed at least
twice, some as many as five times!
http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/IY_HON_Welcome

Yad Vashem's 3,000,000 "Holocaust victims" database lists nearly
everyone twice. Some as many at five times. Anyone, including
you can submit a "Page of Testimony".

And of course we have lists duplicated, unconfirmed, but 3m according to our
usual jewish/Zionist sources.
Put your name in, you might be missing out on reparations.
Has been improvements since this, numbers still very dicey.

Name                                  Town          District          Region
Country          Bday          Source

Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
1879         list of victims from Germany
Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
1879         list of deportation from Berlin
Friedemann Adolf        Berlin         Berlin         Berlin         Germany
1905         list of deportation from Berlin

It is forensically impractical or impossible to exterminate millions with
louse disinfestant (hydrogen cyanide gas)
or diesel exhaust as alleged by malicious "witnesses" or tortured
confessors. There are no written orders for
extermination. Aerial reconnaissance photographs of the concentration camps
show no smoke and flames
belching from the crematoria and pyres as alleged. The photos and records
show there was not enough coke or
crematoria to cremate millions of corpses. The "witnesses" and confessors
lied about how many minutes it takes
to cremate a corpse. Diesel exhaust does not contain significant amount of
carbon monoxide to kill a human. If
the Nazis wanted to kill millions they could have driven the coal fired
train into a tunnel or quonset hut and gassed
'em with the exhaust from the locomotive or used the exhaust from the
crematoria. At Auschwitz, during a typhus
epidemic, up to 300 people died per day, hence the crematoria, shaving of
heads and requisitions for tons of
Zyklon B louse disinfestant. HCN is a very dangerous, impractical, messy
method for extermination.
http://www.vho.org/
The Holocaust Controversy A Case for open Debate
The Gas Chambers are a fraud, a tourist attraction, slander, demonizing,
impractical/impossible, malicious
atrocity propaganda spread by the communists, who hated Hitler and
perpetrated by Jews, who were always
looking for ways to get to the lands of milk and money. The Jews have
extorted billions from the US Treasury,
Germany, Swiss banks and insurance companies on account of the Holohoax
fraud. The Holohoax also makes
those who fought Hitler feel like they did something good fighting the
demon, Hitler instead of letting Hitler take
on Stalin alone.

A "liberal" person has an open mind. A bigot is irrational and obstinate.

    Franciszek Piper, director of the historical committee of the
 Auschwitz-Birkenau Museum, said yesterday that, according to recent
 research, at least 1.3 million people were deported to the camp, of whom
 about 223,000 survived.

 The 1.1 million victims included 960,000 Jews, between 70,000 and 75,000
 Poles, nearly all of the 23,000 Gypsies sent to the camp and 15,000
 Soviet prisoners of war.<<

 Official Auschwitz figures!
 http://globalfire.tv/nj/03en/history/auschwitz-figures.htm


   Some indeed died by disease, old age and accidents of war.

 Most did at the end of war, thanks to the Allie efficient bombing of
 railroad transportation.

 But at
   least half..at the least, died by the hands of the Turd Reich.

 Not true! Jews were put to labor camps, for security reason and later to
 move them to Palestine or Madagascar.
 Same reason as the US forced some 150,000 Jap-Americans and Germans into
 camps.

   It
   makes no difference if they were machinegunned into mass graves by the
   Einsatzgruppen, or the aroma of Zyklon B,

 Zyklon-B was a disinfectants, to delouse housing, personal belongings of
 inmates.
 It was used for to save lives not kill. After the war propaganda lies
 changed that.

The Wiesenthal Record

 While it is gratifying to note that, in his recent "Revisionist" letter,
 Wiesenthal implicitly "denies history" as "established" by the Nuremberg
 Tribunal, it must be pointed out that nearly everything else he says is
 untrue.

 There is not a shred of evidence, for example, that "a gas chamber was
 in the process of being built at Dachau, but it was never completed."
 (See "The Second Leuchter Report" by American gas chamber expert Fred
 Leuchter in The Journal of Historical Review, Fall 1990.) There is
 likewise no proof that "mentally and physically handicapped people were
 killed" by gas at any of the four "institutions" Wiesenthal mentions.

 This US Army photo was taken at Dachau on April 30, 1945, one day after
 the camp's capture. It shows a GI standing in front of a door marked
 with a skull and crossbones and the words "Caution! Gas! Life danger! Do
 not open!" According to the official caption, "these chambers were used
 by Nazi guards for killing prisoners of the infamous Dachau
 concentration camp." In fact, this is a small disinfection gas chamber
 used for delousing clothes. It was never used to kill people. For
 several decades, this photo has been widely reproduced to help keep
 alive the notorious Dachau "gas chamber" myth. (US Army photo SC 206194.)

 Actually -- and contrary to his highly flattering public image -- the
 renowned "Nazi hunter" has a well-documented but little-known record of
 deceit, mendacity and prevarication. Some highlights:

 Wiesenthal repeatedly lied about his alleged role in locating Adolf
 Eichmann, was consistently wrong about Josef Mengele, and falsely
 accused Polish-American Frank Walus of having murdered Jews in Poland as
 a Gestapo official. Wiesenthal has absurdly charged that the Germans
 exterminated Jews in "electrocution chambers," and that they
 manufactured bars of soap from the bodies of murdered Jews. His
 deception about his own wartime activities prompted Austrian Chancellor
 Bruno Kreisky (himself of Jewish ancestry) to accuse the "Nazi hunter"
 of having collaborated with his wartime oppressors. (For details about
 Wiesenthal's record, see: M. Weber, "Simon Wiesenthal: Bogus Nazi
 Hunter," The Journal of Historical Review, Winter 1989-90.)


 THE CANADIAN JEWISH NEWS, Jan. 30, 1992

 Wannsee's importance rejected
 London (JTA) - An Israeli Holocaust scholar has debunked the Wannsee
 Conference, at which top Nazi officials are said to have gathered at a
 villa in a Berlin suburb in 1942 to draw the blueprints of the "Final
 Solution."

 According to Prof. Yehuda Bauer (photo) of the Hebrew University in
 Jerusalem, Wannsee was a meeting, "but hardly a conference", and
 "little of what was said there was executed in detail."

 "The public still repeats, time after time, the silly story that at
 Wannsee the extermination of the Jews was arrived at."


     "I have never held myself out to be a Holocaust expert, nor
  have I written books about what is now called the Holocaust."

     "I have done my best to prepare the case that follows, but
  I respectfully submit that I do not have any duty to become an
  expert on the Holocaust, my Lord."

     "I have never claimed to be a Holocaust historian. As I have
  said, I have no written no book about the Holocaust. I have written
  no article about it. If I have spoken about it, it is usually
  because somebody has asked me a question, I have been questioned
  about it. On such occasions I have emphasised my lack of expertise
  and I have expatiated only upon those areas with which I am familiar."

The Jews And The Concentration Camps:
A Factual Appraisal By The Red Cross.

There is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during World War
Two and the conditions of Germany's concentration camps which is
almost unique in its honesty and objectivity, the three-volume Report
of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities
during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.

This comprehensive account from an entirely neutral source
incorporated and expanded the findings of two previous works:
Documents sur l'activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les
camps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), and
Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War
(Geneva, 1947). The team of authors, headed by Frédéric Siordet,
explained in the opening pages of the Report that their object, in the
tradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality, and
herein lies its great value.

The ICRC successfully applied the 1929 Geneva military convention in
order to gain access to civilian internees held in Central and Western
Europe by the Germany authorities. By contrast, the ICRC was unable to
gain any access to the Soviet Union, which had failed to ratify the
Convention. The millions of civilian and military internees held in
the USSR, whose conditions were known to be by far the worst, were
completely cut off from any international contact or supervision.

The Red Cross Report is of value in that it first clarifies the
legitimate circumstances under which Jews were detained in
concentration camps, i.e. as enemy aliens. In describing the two
categories of civilian internees, the Report distinguishes the second
type as "Civilians deported on administrative grounds (in German,
"Schutzhäftlinge"), who were arrested for political or racial motives
because their presence was considered a danger to the State or the
occupation forces" (Vol. 111, p. 73). These persons, it continues,
"were placed on the same footing as persons arrested or imprisoned
under common law for security reasons." (P.74).

The Report admits that the Germans were at first reluctant to permit
supervision by the Red Cross of people detained on grounds relating to
security, but by the latter part of 1942, the ICRC obtained important
concessions from Germany. They were permitted to distribute food
parcels to major concentration camps in Germany from August 1942, and
"from February 1943 onwards this concession was extended to all other
camps and prisons" (Vol. 111, p. 78). The ICRC soon established
contact with camp commandants and launched a food relief programme
which continued to function until the last months of 1945, letters of
thanks for which came pouring in from Jewish internees.

Red Cross Recipients Were Jews
The Report states that "As many as 9,000 parcels were packed daily.
From the autumn of 1943 until May 1945, about 1,112,000 parcels with a
total weight of 4,500 tons were sent off to the concentration camps"
(Vol. III, p. 80). In addition to food, these contained clothing and
pharmaceutical supplies. "Parcels were sent to Dachau, Buchenwald,
Sangerhausen, Sachsenhausen, Oranienburg, Flossenburg,
Landsberg-am-Lech, Flöha, Ravensbrück, Hamburg-Neuengamme, Mauthausen,
Theresienstadt, Auschwitz, Bergen-Belsen, to camps near Vienna and in
Central and Southern Germany. The principal recipients were Belgians,
Dutch, French, Greeks, Italians, Norwegians, Poles and stateless Jews"
(Vol. III, p. 83).

In the course of the war, "The Committee was in a position to transfer
and distribute in the form of relief supplies over twenty million
Swiss francs collected by Jewish welfare organisations throughout the
world, in particular by the American Joint Distribution Committee of
New York" (Vol. I, p. 644). This latter organisation was permitted by
the German Government to maintain offices in Berlin until the American
entry into the war. The ICRC complained that obstruction of their vast
relief operation for Jewish internees came not from the Germans but
from the tight Allied blockade of Europe. Most of their purchases of
relief food were made in Rumania, Hungary and Slovakia.

The ICRC had special praise for the liberal conditions which prevailed
at Theresienstadt up to the time of their last visits there in April
1945. This camp, "where there were about 40,000 Jews deported from
various countries was a relatively privileged ghetto" (Vol. III, p.
75). According to the Report, "'The Committee's delegates were able to
visit the camp at Theresienstadt (Terezin) which was used exclusively
for Jews and was governed by special conditions. From information
gathered by the Committee, this camp had been started as an experiment
by certain leaders of the Reich ... These men wished to give the Jews
the means of setting up a communal life in a town under their own
administration and possessing almost complete autonomy. . . two
delegates were able to visit the camp on April 6th, 1945. They
confirmed the favourable impression gained on the first visit" (Vol.
I, p . 642).

The ICRC also had praise for the regime of Ion Antonescu of Fascist
Rumania where the Committee was able to extend special relief to
183,000 Rumanian Jews until the time of the Soviet occupation. The aid
then ceased, and the ICRC complained bitterly that it never succeeded
"in sending anything whatsoever to Russia" (Vol. II, p. 62). The same
situation applied to many of the German camps after their "liberation"
by the Russians. The ICRC received a voluminous flow of mail from
Auschwitz until the period of the Soviet occupation, when many of the
internees were evacuated westward. But the efforts of the Red Cross to
send relief to internees remaining at Auschwitz under Soviet control
were futile. However, food parcels continued to be sent to former
Auschwitz inmates transferred west to such camps as Buchenwald and
Oranienburg.

No Evidence Of Genocide
One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it
clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in
the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic
condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the
war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed
an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the
German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ...
In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and
General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results.
Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate
was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).

Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire
situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit
in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied
bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned
Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous
aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October
2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending
collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that
starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming
inevitable.

In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is
important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross
found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a
deliberate policy to exterminate the Jews. In all its 1,600 pages the
Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits
that Jews, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and
privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned
extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend. Like the
Vatican representatives with whom they worked, the Red Cross found
itself unable to indulge in the irresponsible charges of genocide
which had become the order of the day. So far as the genuine mortality
rate is concerned, the Report points out that most of the Jewish
doctors from the camps were being used to combat typhus on the eastern
front, so that they were unavailable when the typhus epidemics of 1945
broke out in the camps (Vol. I, p. 204 ff) - Incidentally, it is
frequently claimed that mass executions were carried out in gas
chambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Report
makes nonsense of this allegation. "Not only the washing places, but
installations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by the
delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made less
primitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged" (Vol. III, p. 594).

Not All Were Interned
Volume III of the Red Cross Report, Chapter 3 (I. Jewish Civilian
Population) deals with the "aid given to the Jewish section of the
free population," and this chapter makes it quite plain that by no
means all of the European Jews were placed in internment camps, but
remained, subject to certain restrictions, as part of the free
civilian population. This conflicts directly with the "thoroughness"
of the supposed "extermination programme", and with the claim in the
forged Höss memoirs that Eichmann was obsessed with seizing "every
single Jew he could lay his hands on."

In Slovakia, for example, where Eichmann's assistant Dieter Wisliceny
was in charge, the Report states that "A large proportion of the
Jewish minority had permission to stay in the country, and at certain
periods Slovakia was looked upon as a comparative haven of refuge for
Jews, especially for those coming from Poland. Those who remained in
Slovakia seem to have been in comparative safety until the end of
August 1944, when a rising against the German forces took place. While
it is true that the law of May 15th, 1942 had brought about the
internment of several thousand Jews, these people were held in camps
where the conditions of food and lodging were tolerable, and where the
internees were allowed to do paid work on terms almost equal to those
of the free labour market" (Vol. I, p. 646).

Not only did large numbers of the three million or so European Jews
avoid internment altogether, but the emigration of Jews continued
throughout the war, generally by way of Hungary, Rumania and Turkey.
Ironically, post-war Jewish emigration from German-occupied
territories was also facilitated by the Reich, as in the case of the
Polish Jews who had escaped to France before its occupation. "The Jews
from Poland who, whilst in France, had obtained entrance permits to
the United States were held to be American citizens by the German
occupying authorities, who further agreed to recognize the validity of
about three thousand passports issued to Jews by the consulates of
South American countries" (Vol. I, p. 645).

As future U.S. citizens, these Jews were held at the Vittel camp in
southern France for American aliens. The emigration of European Jews
from Hungary in particular proceeded during the war unhindered by the
German authorities. "Until March 1944," says the. Red Cross Report,
"Jews who had the privilege of visas for Palestine were free to leave
Hungary" (Vol. I, p. 648). Even after the replacement of the Horthy
Government in 1944 (following its attempted armistice with the Soviet
Union) with a government more dependent on German authority, the
emigration of Jews continued.

The Committee secured the pledges of both Britain and the United
States "to give support by every means to the emigration of Jews from
Hungary," and from the U.S. Government the ICRC received a message
stating that "The Government of the United States ... now specifically
repeats its assurance that arrangements will be made by it for the
care of all Jews who in the present circumstances are allowed to
leave" (Vol. I, p . 649).

Biedermann agreed that in the nineteen instances that "Did Six Million
Really Die?" quoted from the Report of the International Committee of
the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War and Inter
Arma Caritas (this includes the above material), it did so accurately.

A quote from Charles Biedermann (a delegate of the International
Committee of the Red Cross and Director of the Red Cross'
International Tracing Service) under oath at the Zündel Trial
(February 9, 10, 11 and 12, 1988).

Let me here commit the new blasphemy while it is still legal. What we know
as the "holocaust" is largely war-time propaganda. Propaganda that, unlike
most war-time propaganda, was not quietly forgotten. Instead it has
continued; grown more fantastic, more hateful, and more dangerous to
question every year since 1945.
The truth is that somewhere between 700,000 and 1,500,000 people died in
German work camps in 1944 and 1945. Most of them were Jews. Many were not.
Most of them died in the last six months of the war from disease and hunger
caused by America's bombing of Germany and subsequent destruction of her
infrastructure. There were some atrocities but very few. Few people realize
that the International Red Cross had a field office in Auschwiz from 1942
until the end of the war. That office never reported or recorded any
atrocities (Several years ago international Jewry forced the Red Cross to
apologize to the Jews - apologize for not seeing something that never
happened.)
Winston Churchill wrote a five volume history of World War II and never
mentioned the holocaust. He never mentioned it because he knew that the
holocaust was just wartime propaganda and he did not want to sully what he
hoped would be the definitive history of the war with propaganda that common
sense alone could refute. I could go on but the evidence I speak of is
available to The Jubilee readers from many patriotic sources even though it
is still widely censored by America's media and libraries.








"Kenneth McVay OBC"  wrote in message 
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> In article 
> ,
> Divided by Diversity  ⠺⠻⠺   wrote:
>>Watch the thinking man's holocaust documentary today:
>
> Archive/File: people/p/piper.franciszek/press/daily.texan.1093
> Last-Modified: 2007/02/08
>
>
>                                                     ogwiqcim,
> October21,1993
>                Dr Franciszek Piper
>                Pa'nstwowe Muzeum
>                32-603 Ogwiecim -Poland
>
>                Texas School Publications
>                University of Texas
>                P.O.Box D
>                Austin,Texas 78713-8904
>                       U S A
> Dear Sirs,
>
> In connection with an advertisement of David Cole (An open
> letter to the daily Texan, February 19, 1993) in which he offers
> the videotape named "David Cole - Interviews Dr Franciszek
> Piper" I would like to inform your readers:
>
> 1. the sham interview with me there is the Neonazi
> style monologue of young man who never seriously approached the
> great
> tragedy of humanity named Auschwitz and Holocaust.  In his
> ingenuousness he decided to halt the part of the murderers
> instead of their innocent victims - different every
> honest man does. My answers on a few questions of Cole ( who
> deceitfully introduced himself as a man who wanted to convince
> his
> acquaintances in America that Auschwitz was really a place of
> genocide) constitute a small proportion of this video tape.
>
> 2.  In his advertisement he introduces me as a "Head of
> Auschwitz Archives at the Auschwitz State Museum".  This is
> untruth.  I am not and I have been neither a head of Auschwitz
> Archives
> nor a director of Auschwitz Musum, as Cole maintains in
> other propaganda leaflets.  The purpose of such manipulation
> with of facts is clear - to attract potential purchasers of his
> "Interview" video tape.
>
> 3.  Cole maintains that I first time admitted the allegedly
> unknown fact the Nazis adapted the crematorium in question in
> which the gas chamber were located for air-raid shelter, the fact
> allegedly unknown even for Museum guides.  It is un truth.  See
> enclosed copies of pages from the books which constitute the
> fundamental reading for Auschwitz guides. In book by T-an Sehn
> "Concentrat Camp Ogwiqcim-Brzezinka (Auschwitz-Birkenau)Warsaw
> 1957,
> You may read on the page 152-"In May 1944 the old Crematorium
> I in the base camp was adapted for use as an air raid shelter
>
> The Fact is also confirmed in the book by Jean Claude Pressac
> "Auschwitz: Technique and operation of the gas chambers,
> published by The Beate Klarsfeld Foundation, New York 1989 (515
> Madison Avenue). On the page 157 you may read: "With part of the
> building converted to an air raid shelter, this is the state in
> which
> the  SS abandoned Krematorium I in January 1945"  Repeating what
> Pressac had written I told what was the nature of the
> adaptation works carried out by the Nazis and what one had to do
> to
> remove those changes in order to regain the previous appearance.
> They are all "Pipers revelations. In spite of the fact that
> such secondary restoration works had to be done there is an
> undisputable reality that the gas chamber in question is housed
> in the same
> building which has been existed from prewar times till now.
>
> 4. The fact that the Nazi murderers used gas chambers (in
> Birkenau you can see the ruins of the other 5 gas chambers) for
> mass annihilation of innocent men, women and children, mostly
> Jews, has been proved by thousands of memoires and depositions of
> eyewitnesses as well as by German official documents and plans.
> It is obvious fact for everybody who wants to approach the
> problem, to contact still living witnesses and to study
> historical
> sources.
>
> 5. I have devoted 28 years of my life to save the memory of
> the counless victims of the Nazi barbarity to warn people against
> indifference to all forms of racial, religious and national
> based hatered, which leads to injustice, suffering and killing
> of innocent people.  Because of it I take the fact my name is
> used for disseminating such kind of lies and hiding of the
> obvious
> truth as a lack of honesty and dignity.
>
>
> yours,sincerely
>
>
>
>
> Dr Franciszek Piper
>
> PS Send me please the copy ofyour magazine in which my letter
> will be
> published
>
> [transcription note: Dr. Piper's first language is Polish, not
> English, and the letter reads awkwardly. knm]
>
>
> -- 
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date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 05:40:03 GMT   author:   mose

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