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date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:43:30 +0100,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
marxist postman says scientist should shut up....black is white claims 'new' labour   
criticising socialist 'new' labour lies is just not on....

free speech is restricted to government fools and liars...
    how else could this incompetent government operate?

another scientific advisor resigns....



http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/nov/01/drug-adviser-les-king-quits
A member of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs has resigned
in protest at the government's treatment of its head, who was forced
to step down last week after saying that cannabis was less harmful
than alcohol or nicotine.

Professor David Nutt's comments last week led the home secretary, Alan
Johnson, to call on him to resign. Today, Dr Les King told the BBC
that he had decided to step down because he felt Johnson had denied
Nutt's "freedom of expression".

Nutt also incurred the wrath of ministers when he claimed that
cannabis had been upgraded to class B against scientific evidence and
for political reasons.

Johnson said today that he respected Nutt's views but the adviser had
"crossed the line".


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8335904.stm
"The UK government has denied troops in Afghanistan are not properly
equipped after it emerged a British officer criticised supplies before
his death."
....
"Mr Rammell told the BBC that advice from the military was that troops
did have enough helicopters for the Afghan campaign."

regards

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date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:43:30 +0100   author:   abelard

Re: marxist postman says scientist should shut up....black is white claims 'new' labour   
abelard wrote:



> "Mr Rammell told the BBC that advice from the military was that troops
> did have enough helicopters for the Afghan campaign."



Rammell won't be an MP next May.
date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:00:25 +0000   author:   Blue

Re: marxist postman says scientist should shut up....black is white claims 'new' labour   
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:00:25 +0000, Blue  wrote:

>abelard wrote:

>> "Mr Rammell told the BBC that advice from the military was that troops
>> did have enough helicopters for the Afghan campaign."

>Rammell won't be an MP next May.


even a labour labour peer...and top scientist, getting pissed with
    'new' labour

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6479855/Drug-expert-quits-panel-over-sacking-of-David-Nutt.html
"Labour peer Lord Robert Winston added that said he was "disappointed"
about the treatment of Professor Nutt, claiming it showed a lack of
scientific understanding.

Lord Winston warned that the Government would be ignored if it gave
advice to the public that did not take account of scientists' opinions
and said Prof Nutt had made a "very reasonable" point about the
relative dangers of illegal and legal drugs.

He told BBC Radio 4's The World This Weekend he was "very surprised
and disappointed" by Mr Johnson's actions.



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 energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
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  all that is necessary for       []     walk quietly and carry
  the triumph of evil is that     []           a big stick.
  good people do nothing     []    trust actions not words
                    only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
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date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:08:49 +0100   author:   abelard

Re: marxist postman says scientist should shut up....black is white claims 'new' labour   
abelard wrote:
> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:00:25 +0000, Blue  wrote:
> 
>> abelard wrote:
> 
>>> "Mr Rammell told the BBC that advice from the military was that troops
>>> did have enough helicopters for the Afghan campaign."
> 
>> Rammell won't be an MP next May.
> 
> 
> even a labour labour peer...and top scientist, getting pissed with
>     'new' labour



to be quite honest I couldn't care if they banned all drugs, drink and smoking tomorrow.
I got me own problems.
date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:40:01 +0000   author:   Blue

Re: marxist postman says scientist should shut up....black is white claims 'new' labour   
On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:40:01 +0000, Blue  wrote:

>abelard wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:00:25 +0000, Blue  wrote:
>> 
>>> abelard wrote:
>> 
>>>> "Mr Rammell told the BBC that advice from the military was that troops
>>>> did have enough helicopters for the Afghan campaign."
>> 
>>> Rammell won't be an MP next May.
>> 
>> 
>> even a labour labour peer...and top scientist, getting pissed with
>>     'new' labour

>to be quite honest I couldn't care if they banned all drugs, drink and smoking tomorrow.
>I got me own problems.

you'd end up with still more druggies breaking in and
    organising gangs

-- 
web site at www.abelard.org - news comment service, logic, economics 
 energy, education, politics, etc over 1 million document calls in year past
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  all that is necessary for       []     walk quietly and carry
  the triumph of evil is that     []           a big stick.
  good people do nothing     []    trust actions not words
                    only when it's funny -- roger rabbit
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:44:52 +0100   author:   abelard

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