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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:41:58 -0700 (PDT), "fyfpoon@gmail.com"
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>On 10??31??, ????3??21??, Free Tibet  wrote:
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>> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:15:43 -0700 (PDT), "fyfp...@gmail.com"
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>>  wrote:
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>> >What makes you think that the government of a nation has to subsidize
>> >religion at all?
>>
>> I DON'T think the government of a nation has to subsidize a religion. I know in
>> some countries religions don't pay income tax. Is that subsiding? I know in some
>> countries religions don't pay land tax. Is that subsidizing? Remember that we're
>> dealing with a system in Tibet that the CCP has fucked up. The CCP thought
>> religion was getting a free ride. They failed to understand the strong religious
>> beliefs held by Tibetans, the way Tibet is built around Buddhism, the way
>> Tibetans live their religion, the way Tibetans want to practice their religion.
>> The CCP tampered with Buddhism without knowing how it worked, what it did, what
>> it meant to Tibetans. The CCP wanted Tibet to be what the CCP wanted, not what
>> the Tibetans wanted. They fucked it.
>
>There is no question CCP interferes into religious matters but the
>theocratic
>rulers in Tibet also interfered into 'pure' religious matters
>also...or if there is
>such a thing as pure religious matter...

What does that mean?
>
>
>People can worship anything in their dreams or at home but the moment
>when they ask the government for money, that is where the conditions
>come.

No one in Tibet asked the CCP for money for their religion. The CCP gave it to
make themselves look good, showing what they are doing for Buddhism in Tibet.
Maybe they felt bad having destroyed most of the monasteries in Tibet, but they
wouldn't give money because of that.  It's a sham. You know that the CCP thinks
religion is poison, so why are they giving money?
>
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>> >Do the Christian governments in the democratic West pay all Christians
>> >to do nothing except going to churches?
>>
>> Covered that.
>>
>>
>>
>> >That you talked to 'some' monks in Tibet does not in any way fully
>> >reflect the overall government expenditure in that province.
>>
>> What?? The CCP expenditure is for show. It's so they can say, 'look at what
>> we're doing for Buddhism in Tibet. Now come all you westerners with all your
>> money, travel on our fast train and look at these monks that we're supporting!
>> Aren't we good people?'  NO. They're not. They're a sham. Have you googled some
>> monasteries? No, I'll bet you haven't or you wouldn't be making such statements.
>>
>True i have not read the income and expenditure statement of the
>province
>of Tibet and this is why I am not making those generalized statements
>you are
>making.

You're just dodging the issue. It's got nothing to do with income and
expenditure. It's to do with invasion, murder, rape, disenfranchisement,
torture, sterilization, false imprisonment and genocide. That's what you're
defending. End of story. I'd like to say it's been nice, but..

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Date: Sun Nov  1 12:11:03 2009 GMT
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