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date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
Getting a Halal loan.   
Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
under Islamic law.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT)   author:   NotMe

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
"NotMe"  wrote in message 
news:9bd832ea-18b8-4e97-8ae2-e1b5e329c948@t39g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
> My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
> under Islamic law.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_banking

-- 
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:30:30 +0100   author:   William Black

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
NotMe wrote:
> Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
> My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
> under Islamic law.
> 
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm

Islamic Bank of Britain. You will be pleasantly suprised.

http://www.islamic-bank.com/islamicbanklive/TermsConditions1/1/Home/1/Home.jsp
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:41:44 +0100   author:   Humpty Eggy

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:41:44 +0100, Humpty Eggy  wrote:

>NotMe wrote:
>> Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
>> My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
>> under Islamic law.
>> 
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm
>
>Islamic Bank of Britain. You will be pleasantly suprised.
>
>http://www.islamic-bank.com/islamicbanklive/TermsConditions1/1/Home/1/Home.jsp

I thought was paying Interest that was not allowed ( or should that be
Allahowed ?)
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:00:08 +0100   author:   unknown

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
NOSPAMnet@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:41:44 +0100, Humpty Eggy  wrote:
> 
>> NotMe wrote:
>>> Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
>>> My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
>>> under Islamic law.
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm
>> Islamic Bank of Britain. You will be pleasantly suprised.
>>
>> http://www.islamic-bank.com/islamicbanklive/TermsConditions1/1/Home/1/Home.jsp
> 
> I thought was paying Interest that was not allowed ( or should that be
> Allahowed ?) 

That is correct. a Profit (prophet?) is allowed but charging interest is 
not. Maybe not all that different from Jesus and the money changers?

The taste of the pudding however is in the eating. Western banks are in 
deep shit because of this greed and something for nothing pyramid 
banking while Middle Eastern Islamic banks are untouched.
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:31:36 +0100   author:   Humpty Eggy

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
"Humpty Eggy"  wrote in message news:gd2i4f$57u$1@aioe.org...
> NotMe wrote:
>> Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
>> My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
>> under Islamic law.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm
>
> Islamic Bank of Britain. You will be pleasantly suprised.
>
> http://www.islamic-bank.com/islamicbanklive/TermsConditions1/1/Home/1/Home.jsp

It is the payment of interest (usury) that is not allowed.

Quite a common way around this is that rich Muslims finance property 
development and receive a share of the rent for their money.

Probably similar for a house loan - you pay rent and pay off the principle 
at the same time.  The Treasury changed the rules so that stamp duty was 
only payable once.
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 18:54:36 +0100   author:   R. Mark Clayton

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
>
> Quite a common way around this is that rich Muslims finance property
> development and receive a share of the rent for their money.
>

So much of this so called pious Islamic banking system is really
mostly, as with so many things in the Islamic world, just a cover for
hypocrisy.

In order to satisfy the tenants of their faith they put in place so
many hoops and jumps to negotiate but in many ways these result in a
well oiled pathway to the green light of getting rich, corruption and
shagging around with women (girls) far too young for you.
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:02:25 -0700 (PDT)   author:   allan tracy

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
On Oct 14, 6:54 pm, "R. Mark Clayton" 
wrote:
> "Humpty Eggy"  wrote in messagenews:gd2i4f$57u$1@aioe.org.> > NotMe wrote:
> >> Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
> >> My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
> >> under Islamic law.
>
> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm
>
> > Islamic Bank of Britain. You will be pleasantly suprised.
>
> >http://www.islamic-bank.com/islamicbanklive/TermsConditions1/1/Home/1...
>
> It is the payment of interest (usury) that is not allowed.
>
> Quite a common way around this is that rich Muslims finance property
> development and receive a share of the rent for their money.
>
> Probably similar for a house loan - you pay rent and pay off the principle
> at the same time.  The Treasury changed the rules so that stamp duty was
> only payable once.

http://www.hsbc.co.uk/1/2/personal/travel-international/hsbc-amanah/amanah-home-finance;jsessionid=0000deWJbbn9S-aZZfoZM2z8nAR:12ntf2618

http://tinyurl.com/4whrw5
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:03:49 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Mel Rowing

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> "Humpty Eggy"  wrote in message news:gd2i4f$57u$1@aioe.org...
>> NotMe wrote:
>>> Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
>>> My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
>>> under Islamic law.
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm
>> Islamic Bank of Britain. You will be pleasantly suprised.
>>
>> http://www.islamic-bank.com/islamicbanklive/TermsConditions1/1/Home/1/Home.jsp
> 
> It is the payment of interest (usury) that is not allowed.
> 
> Quite a common way around this is that rich Muslims finance property 
> development and receive a share of the rent for their money.
> 
> Probably similar for a house loan - you pay rent and pay off the principle 
> at the same time.  The Treasury changed the rules so that stamp duty was 
> only payable once. 
> 
> 

  A bit like the old Hire Purchase game.
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:12:40 +0100   author:   Paul Davies

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
allan tracy wrote:
>> Quite a common way around this is that rich Muslims finance property
>> development and receive a share of the rent for their money.
>>
> 
> So much of this so called pious Islamic banking system is really
> mostly, as with so many things in the Islamic world, just a cover for
> hypocrisy.

<racist rantings snipped>

So why haven't the ME nbanks gone down?
date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:14:42 +0100   author:   Paul Davies

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
"Humpty Eggy"  wrote in message news:gd2i4f$57u$1@aioe.org...
> NotMe wrote:
>> Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
>> My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
>> under Islamic law.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm
>

I don't think it is the taking out of the loan.  AFAIA, the Koran prohibits 
the charging of interest, but I am open to being educated in the matter.
date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:48:13 +0100   author:   M.I.5?

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
On 14 Oct, 19:14, Paul Davies  wrote:
> allan tracy wrote:
> >> Quite a common way around this is that rich Muslims finance property
> >> development and receive a share of the rent for their money.
>
> > So much of this so called pious Islamic banking system is really
> > mostly, as with so many things in the Islamic world, just a cover for
> > hypocrisy.
>
> <racist rantings snipped>
>
> So why haven't the ME nbanks gone down?

Probably because they don't have idealistic democratic regimes with
one eye on the opinion polls that feel the need to put the World to
rights and end the cycle of boom and bust.
date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:59:42 -0700 (PDT)   author:   allan tracy

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:14:42 +0100, Paul Davies
 wrote:

>allan tracy wrote:
>>> Quite a common way around this is that rich Muslims finance property
>>> development and receive a share of the rent for their money.
>>>
>> 
>> So much of this so called pious Islamic banking system is really
>> mostly, as with so many things in the Islamic world, just a cover for
>> hypocrisy.
>
><racist rantings snipped>
>
>So why haven't the ME nbanks gone down?

Because they sent all their staff to buy homes in the land of infidels
with dodgy loans.

The middle east and all the fuckwit religions worldwide will always be
problem.  They should be eliminated.


--
date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:51:01 +0100   author:   Mike

Re: Getting a Halal loan.   
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 10:48:13 +0100, "M.I.5¾"
 wrote:

>
>"Humpty Eggy"  wrote in message news:gd2i4f$57u$1@aioe.org...
>> NotMe wrote:
>>> Could anyone here advise me how to get a Halal loan?
>>> My interpretation of the Koran says that taking out a loan is illegal
>>> under Islamic law.
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/rss/-/1/hi/uk/7669741.stm
>>
>
>I don't think it is the taking out of the loan.  AFAIA, the Koran prohibits 
>the charging of interest, but I am open to being educated in the matter.

It also says live in peace and don't kick the fuck out of your
neighbour, chop their heads off, or blow yourself to bits in a public
place just because your pretend person is a bit different to someone
elses. 

All religion without exception is evil and Islam is right at the
bottom of the heap along with Scientology, the fuckwit Catholics, the
Hare Krishnas and tits who watch the X-Factor.

Time to nuke Mecca followed by Rome and Simon Cowell.

--
date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:51:25 +0100   author:   Mike

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