Breaking news is that the House of Lords have shown two fingers at New 
Liebour criminals, and defeated the 42 day detention laws that New 
Liebour brought the votes of in the Commons with £300m of taxpayers money.

Ar  wrote in
news:48f39b9a$0$29508$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk: 

> Breaking news is that the House of Lords have shown two fingers at New
> Liebour criminals, and defeated the 42 day detention laws that New 
> Liebour brought the votes of in the Commons with £300m of taxpayers
> money. 
> 





http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/oct/13/terrorism-lords


Government set to scrap 42-day detention plans after Lords defeat
Gordon Brown's proposals to detain terrorism suspects without charge for 
up to 42 days thrown out by peers


The government is tonight expected to tear up its plans to detain 
terrorism suspects for up to 42 days without charge after peers 
overwhelmingly rejected the proposal.

Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, is due to make a Commons statement at 
8.30pm when it is thought she will announce plans to drop the specific 
proposal on detention without charge but retain the substantive part of 
the government's counter-terror bill.

The move comes after the House of Lords backed an amendment to block the 
detention plans by 309 to 118, a majority of 191, during the committee 
stage of the bill.

In a face-saving measure, the government will publish separate 
legislation on 42 days that it will hold in abeyance in case it is ever 
needed.

Although a government defeat had been widely predicted, the scale of the 
rebellion will be seen as a huge victory for civil liberties campaigners 
and will have made Smith wary of trying to force the measure through the 
Commons again.

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:33:20 +0000, basho007 wrote:

> Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, is due to make a Commons statement at
> 8.30pm when it is thought she will announce plans to drop the specific
> proposal on detention without charge but retain the substantive part of
> the government's counter-terror bill.

She's introducing another bill with 42 days in it.
 
> The move comes after the House of Lords backed an amendment to block the
> detention plans by 309 to 118, a majority of 191, during the committee
> stage of the bill.

New Liebour got slaughtered in the Lords. During the day they were 
predicting 100 against, but 191 against is a slaughter of this 42 days 
bullshit bill.

Ar  wrote in news:48f3a4c4$0$24345$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk:

> On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:33:20 +0000, basho007 wrote:
> 
>> Jacqui Smith, the home secretary, is due to make a Commons statement at
>> 8.30pm when it is thought she will announce plans to drop the specific
>> proposal on detention without charge but retain the substantive part of
>> the government's counter-terror bill.
> 
> She's introducing another bill with 42 days in it.




As I understand it, the government is not going to put the bill to a vote 
any time soon.    



>  
>> The move comes after the House of Lords backed an amendment to block the
>> detention plans by 309 to 118, a majority of 191, during the committee
>> stage of the bill.
> 
> New Liebour got slaughtered in the Lords. During the day they were 
> predicting 100 against, but 191 against is a slaughter of this 42 days 
> bullshit bill.
> 


There were 309 votes against, not 191.

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 19:47:59 +0000, basho007 wrote:

> There were 309 votes against, not 191.

I meant the majority was 191 against New Liebour.