The French were branded "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys"
    and calls were made to ban French Fries.. (which is really
    funny as they are an American variation on Chips!  B^)

    Now the "surrender monkey" virus has crossed the channel:   ;-)

"Britain's top military commander in Afghanistan has warned
that a "decisive military victory" against the Taliban was
not possible and has called for greater measures to reach a
political settlement with the rebel group.

In an interview with the Sunday Times, Brigadier Mark
Carleton-Smith, who is in charge of the 16 Air Assault
Brigade, which is conducting operations in the volatile
province of Helmand, added it was unreasonable for the
public to expect that Afghanistan could be rid of violence.

He said: "We're not going to win this war. It's about
reducing it to a manageable level of insurgency that's
not a strategic threat and can be managed by the Afghan army."

Brigadier Carleton-Smith also said expectations that the
country could be rid of violence were "unrealistic and
probably incredible", adding that a "steady ebb of rural
insurgency" was to be expected."

     Bush took his eye off the ball by invading Iraq
     when the Taliban and Al Qaida infestation has always
     been Afghanistan and Pakistan.  Resources which could
     have made a difference were diverted to the Iraq Disaster.

   http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6285141,00.jpg


"The top soldier also called for greater efforts to negotiate
with the Taliban adding that it could be seen as a sign of
progress."

    When the senior military recommend negotiation, the politicians
    ignore it at their peril..  but how to negotiate with the Taliban?
    And who could do it..  McCain doesn't have the temperament, he's
    as bellicose as Bush, and almost as punchy as Palin!

"He told the paper: "We want to change the nature of the debate
from one where disputes are settled through the barrel of the
gun to one where it is done through negotiations.

"If the Taliban were prepared to sit on the other side of the
table and talk about a political settlement, then that’s
precisely the sort of progress that concludes insurgencies
like this. That shouldn't make people uncomfortable,”
Brigadier Smith added."

     People say they want CHANGE from the failure of the
     past eight years, this sounds like a profound change!

"In September, Brigadier Smith warned of the threat posed
by the Taliban in southern parts of the country by saying
he was in favour of sending 4,000 more troops to the country."





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         "Ohhhhh Say can you see
               By the dawns early light
          The markets in panic
              and Republicans take flight! "

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    "The Fundamentals of our Economy remain Strong"  - John McSame,
   Republican Candidate for the Presidency of the Derivative Ravaged,
   Crisis torn, Economic Basket Case, The USSA!

    http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html


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On Oct 6, 6:17 pm, fasgnadh  wrote:
>     The French were branded "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys"
>     and calls were made to ban French Fries.. (which is really
>     funny as they are an American variation on Chips!  B^)
>
>     Now the "surrender monkey" virus has crossed the channel:   ;-)
>
> "Britain's top military commander in Afghanistan has warned
> that a "decisive military victory" against the Taliban was
> not possible and has called for greater measures to reach a
> political settlement with the rebel group.
>
> In an interview with the Sunday Times, Brigadier Mark
> Carleton-Smith, who is in charge of the 16 Air Assault
> Brigade, which is conducting operations in the volatile
> province of Helmand, added it was unreasonable for the
> public to expect that Afghanistan could be rid of violence.
>
> He said: "We're not going to win this war. It's about
> reducing it to a manageable level of insurgency that's
> not a strategic threat and can be managed by the Afghan army."
>
> Brigadier Carleton-Smith also said expectations that the
> country could be rid of violence were "unrealistic and
> probably incredible", adding that a "steady ebb of rural
> insurgency" was to be expected."
>
>      Bush took his eye off the ball by invading Iraq
>      when the Taliban and Al Qaida infestation has always
>      been Afghanistan and Pakistan.  Resources which could
>      have made a difference were diverted to the Iraq Disaster.
>
>    http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6285141,00.jpg
>
> "The top soldier also called for greater efforts to negotiate
> with the Taliban adding that it could be seen as a sign of
> progress."
>
>     When the senior military recommend negotiation, the politicians
>     ignore it at their peril..  but how to negotiate with the Taliban?
>     And who could do it..  McCain doesn't have the temperament, he's
>     as bellicose as Bush, and almost as punchy as Palin!
>
> "He told the paper: "We want to change the nature of the debate
> from one where disputes are settled through the barrel of the
> gun to one where it is done through negotiations.
>
> "If the Taliban were prepared to sit on the other side of the
> table and talk about a political settlement, then that’s
> precisely the sort of progress that concludes insurgencies
> like this. That shouldn't make people uncomfortable,”
> Brigadier Smith added."
>
>      People say they want CHANGE from the failure of the
>      past eight years, this sounds like a profound change!
>
> "In September, Brigadier Smith warned of the threat posed
> by the Taliban in southern parts of the country by saying
> he was in favour of sending 4,000 more troops to the country."
>
>   -----------
>
>          "Ohhhhh Say can you see
>                By the dawns early light
>           The markets in panic
>               and Republicans take flight! "
>
>   -----------
>
>     "The Fundamentals of our Economy remain Strong"  - John McSame,
>    Republican Candidate for the Presidency of the Derivative Ravaged,
>    Crisis torn, Economic Basket Case, The USSA!
>
>    http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html
>
>   -----------

The Taliban will NEVER negotiate with terrorists OR traitors

Western taxpayers are TRAPPED and must bleed to death or hand over ALL
war criminals to face justice

kangarooistan wrote:
> On Oct 6, 6:17 pm, fasgnadh  wrote:
>>     The French were branded "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys"
>>     and calls were made to ban French Fries.. (which is really
>>     funny as they are an American variation on Chips!  B^)
>>
>>     Now the "surrender monkey" virus has crossed the channel:   ;-)
>>
>> "Britain's top military commander in Afghanistan has warned
>> that a "decisive military victory" against the Taliban was
>> not possible and has called for greater measures to reach a
>> political settlement with the rebel group.
>>
>> In an interview with the Sunday Times, Brigadier Mark
>> Carleton-Smith, who is in charge of the 16 Air Assault
>> Brigade, which is conducting operations in the volatile
>> province of Helmand, added it was unreasonable for the
>> public to expect that Afghanistan could be rid of violence.
>>
>> He said: "We're not going to win this war. It's about
>> reducing it to a manageable level of insurgency that's
>> not a strategic threat and can be managed by the Afghan army."
>>
>> Brigadier Carleton-Smith also said expectations that the
>> country could be rid of violence were "unrealistic and
>> probably incredible", adding that a "steady ebb of rural
>> insurgency" was to be expected."
>>
>>      Bush took his eye off the ball by invading Iraq
>>      when the Taliban and Al Qaida infestation has always
>>      been Afghanistan and Pakistan.  Resources which could
>>      have made a difference were diverted to the Iraq Disaster.
>>
>>    http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6285141,00.jpg
>>
>> "The top soldier also called for greater efforts to negotiate
>> with the Taliban adding that it could be seen as a sign of
>> progress."
>>
>>     When the senior military recommend negotiation, the politicians
>>     ignore it at their peril..  but how to negotiate with the Taliban?
>>     And who could do it..  McCain doesn't have the temperament, he's
>>     as bellicose as Bush, and almost as punchy as Palin!
>>
>> "He told the paper: "We want to change the nature of the debate
>> from one where disputes are settled through the barrel of the
>> gun to one where it is done through negotiations.
>>
>> "If the Taliban were prepared to sit on the other side of the
>> table and talk about a political settlement, then that’s
>> precisely the sort of progress that concludes insurgencies
>> like this. That shouldn't make people uncomfortable,”
>> Brigadier Smith added."
>>
>>      People say they want CHANGE from the failure of the
>>      past eight years, this sounds like a profound change!
>>
>> "In September, Brigadier Smith warned of the threat posed
>> by the Taliban in southern parts of the country by saying
>> he was in favour of sending 4,000 more troops to the country."
>>
>>   -----------
>>
>>          "Ohhhhh Say can you see
>>                By the dawns early light
>>           The markets in panic
>>               and Republicans take flight! "
>>
>>   -----------
>>
>>     "The Fundamentals of our Economy remain Strong"  - John McSame,
>>    Republican Candidate for the Presidency of the Derivative Ravaged,
>>    Crisis torn, Economic Basket Case, The USSA!
>>
>>    http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html
>>
>>   -----------
> 
> The Taliban will NEVER negotiate with terrorists OR traitors


The Taliban ALWAYS negotiate with terrorists and traitors,
how else could they trade with each other.


> Western taxpayers are TRAPPED and must bleed to death 

Just how long have you been with the Tax Office?

 > or hand over ALL war criminals to face justice

You can have Howard and Bush.. just come and get them.





  -----------

         "Ohhhhh Say can you see
               By the dawns early light
          The markets in panic
              and Republicans take flight! "

  -----------


    "The Fundamentals of our Economy remain Strong"  - John McSame,
   Republican Candidate for the Presidency of the Derivative Ravaged,
   Crisis torn, Economic Basket Case, The USSA!

    http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html


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On Oct 6, 8:46 pm, fasgnadh  wrote:
> kangarooistan wrote:
> > On Oct 6, 6:17 pm, fasgnadh  wrote:
> >>     The French were branded "Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys"
> >>     and calls were made to ban French Fries.. (which is really
> >>     funny as they are an American variation on Chips!  B^)
>
> >>     Now the "surrender monkey" virus has crossed the channel:   > >> "Britain's top military commander in Afghanistan has warned
> >> that a "decisive military victory" against the Taliban was
> >> not possible and has called for greater measures to reach a
> >> political settlement with the rebel group.
>
> >> In an interview with the Sunday Times, Brigadier Mark
> >> Carleton-Smith, who is in charge of the 16 Air Assault
> >> Brigade, which is conducting operations in the volatile
> >> province of Helmand, added it was unreasonable for the
> >> public to expect that Afghanistan could be rid of violence.
>
> >> He said: "We're not going to win this war. It's about
> >> reducing it to a manageable level of insurgency that's
> >> not a strategic threat and can be managed by the Afghan army."
>
> >> Brigadier Carleton-Smith also said expectations that the
> >> country could be rid of violence were "unrealistic and
> >> probably incredible", adding that a "steady ebb of rural
> >> insurgency" was to be expected."
>
> >>      Bush took his eye off the ball by invading Iraq
> >>      when the Taliban and Al Qaida infestation has always
> >>      been Afghanistan and Pakistan.  Resources which could
> >>      have made a difference were diverted to the Iraq Disaster.
>
> >>    http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6285141,00.jpg
>
> >> "The top soldier also called for greater efforts to negotiate
> >> with the Taliban adding that it could be seen as a sign of
> >> progress."
>
> >>     When the senior military recommend negotiation, the politicians
> >>     ignore it at their peril..  but how to negotiate with the Taliban?
> >>     And who could do it..  McCain doesn't have the temperament, he's
> >>     as bellicose as Bush, and almost as punchy as Palin!
>
> >> "He told the paper: "We want to change the nature of the debate
> >> from one where disputes are settled through the barrel of the
> >> gun to one where it is done through negotiations.
>
> >> "If the Taliban were prepared to sit on the other side of the
> >> table and talk about a political settlement, then that’s
> >> precisely the sort of progress that concludes insurgencies
> >> like this. That shouldn't make people uncomfortable,”
> >> Brigadier Smith added."
>
> >>      People say they want CHANGE from the failure of the
> >>      past eight years, this sounds like a profound change!
>
> >> "In September, Brigadier Smith warned of the threat posed
> >> by the Taliban in southern parts of the country by saying
> >> he was in favour of sending 4,000 more troops to the country."
>
> >>   -----------
>
> >>          "Ohhhhh Say can you see
> >>                By the dawns early light
> >>           The markets in panic
> >>               and Republicans take flight! "
>
> >>   -----------
>
> >>     "The Fundamentals of our Economy remain Strong"  - John McSame,
> >>    Republican Candidate for the Presidency of the Derivative Ravaged,
> >>    Crisis torn, Economic Basket Case, The USSA!
>
> >>    http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html
>
> >>   -----------
>
> > The Taliban will NEVER negotiate with terrorists OR traitors
>
> The Taliban ALWAYS negotiate with terrorists and traitors,
> how else could they trade with each other.
>
> > Western taxpayers are TRAPPED and must bleed to death
>
> Just how long have you been with the Tax Office?
>
>  > or hand over ALL war criminals to face justice
>
> You can have Howard and Bush.. just come and get them.
>
>   -----------
>
>          "Ohhhhh Say can you see
>                By the dawns early light
>           The markets in panic
>               and Republicans take flight! "
>
>   -----------
>
>     "The Fundamentals of our Economy remain Strong"  - John McSame,
>    Republican Candidate for the Presidency of the Derivative Ravaged,
>    Crisis torn, Economic Basket Case, The USSA!
>
>    http://www.geocities.com/townsville_taliban/endoscope.html
>
>   -----------
Both posters  certifiable     ignore the clowns

Bush promises to tell Americans before he departs how many years and
how many lives is the U.S. prepared to donate as it has a go at
Afghanistan.