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date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:51:22 +0200,    group: uk.politics.misc        back       
the outcome of the clown's energy 'policy'   
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/utilities/article4888149.ece
British companies are being forced to pay over four times more for
their electricity this winter than competitors in France and in excess
of 70 per cent more than in Germany.
....
On Friday, the forward price of power for November reached more than
£130 per megawatt hour. In France, it was about €40 (£31) per megawatt
hour, according to Spectron, a supplier of energy market data. In
Germany, the price stood at around €97 per megawatt hour. 


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date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 02:51:22 +0200   author:   abelard

Re: the outcome of the clown's energy 'policy'   
abelard wrote:
> 
> http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/utilities/article4888149.ece
> British companies are being forced to pay over four times more for
> their electricity this winter than competitors in France and in excess
> of 70 per cent more than in Germany.
> ....
> On Friday, the forward price of power for November reached more than
> £130 per megawatt hour. In France, it was about €40 (£31) per megawatt
> hour, according to Spectron, a supplier of energy market data. In
> Germany, the price stood at around €97 per megawatt hour. 
> 
> 
> regards
> 
And:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/power-cuts-feared-in-uk-nuclear-plants-crisis-951810.html
"The meltdown of Britain's nuclear capacity is largely responsible for 
an alarming tightening of electricity supplies that is forecast to start 
at the beginning of November, as demand rises sharply for the winter, 
and to continue until at least the end of the month.

An independent nuclear analyst, John Large, said last night: "It's all 
in a pretty sad state. The reactors are starting to break up; they are 
becoming knackered. There comes a point when you simply have to turn the 
things off.

"We have been lucky for two years with mild winters, but if we have a 
cold snap then I can see the lights blinking off."

The National Grid insists there should be enough power even if there is 
a harsh winter, though it admits to "a lot of uncertainty" in its 
projections. But independent analysts warn of a real danger of 
shortages, saying the nuclear crisis is largely to blame.

Ed Mayo, the chief executive of Consumer Focus – the new official 
consumer body, which started work last week – said that supplies would 
be "tighter over the coming period than they have ever been".

David Hunter, an analyst with the independent energy consultants 
McKinnon & Clarke, which advises companies on how to minimise their 
energy costs, added: "Not very much has to go wrong to turn the 
situation towards brownouts and blackouts."

He pointed out that Britain has a maximum of 70-75 gigawatts (gW) of 
electricity available from its own sources. Last week, he added, 18gW of 
that was out of action – partly because of the nuclear crisis (which he 
called "very serious"), partly because of lesser problems with coal- and 
oil-fired plants, and partly through routine maintenance, bringing the 
total down to 52-57gW. Yet in a cold snap demand could rise to 60-62gW."

James
date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:53:43 +0100   author:   James Hammerton

Re: the outcome of the clown's energy 'policy'   
On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 17:53:43 +0100, James Hammerton scrievit this wi a
finger in the stour:

> abelard wrote:
>> 
>> http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/
utilities/article4888149.ece
>> British companies are being forced to pay over four times more for
>> their electricity this winter than competitors in France and in excess
>> of 70 per cent more than in Germany.
>> ....
>> On Friday, the forward price of power for November reached more than
>> £130 per megawatt hour. In France, it was about €40 (£31) per megawatt
>> hour, according to Spectron, a supplier of energy market data. In
>> Germany, the price stood at around €97 per megawatt hour.
>> 
>> 
>> regards
>> 
> And:
> 
> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/power-cuts-feared-in-uk-
nuclear-plants-crisis-951810.html
> "The meltdown of Britain's nuclear capacity is largely responsible for
> an alarming tightening of electricity supplies that is forecast to start
> at the beginning of November, as demand rises sharply for the winter,
> and to continue until at least the end of the month.
> 
> An independent nuclear analyst, John Large, said last night: "It's all
> in a pretty sad state. The reactors are starting to break up; they are
> becoming knackered. There comes a point when you simply have to turn the
> things off.
> 
> "We have been lucky for two years with mild winters, but if we have a
> cold snap then I can see the lights blinking off."
> 
> The National Grid insists there should be enough power even if there is
> a harsh winter, though it admits to "a lot of uncertainty" in its
> projections. But independent analysts warn of a real danger of
> shortages, saying the nuclear crisis is largely to blame.
> 
> Ed Mayo, the chief executive of Consumer Focus – the new official
> consumer body, which started work last week – said that supplies would
> be "tighter over the coming period than they have ever been".
> 
> David Hunter, an analyst with the independent energy consultants
> McKinnon & Clarke, which advises companies on how to minimise their
> energy costs, added: "Not very much has to go wrong to turn the
> situation towards brownouts and blackouts."
> 
> He pointed out that Britain has a maximum of 70-75 gigawatts (gW) of
> electricity available from its own sources. Last week, he added, 18gW of
> that was out of action – partly because of the nuclear crisis (which he
> called "very serious"), partly because of lesser problems with coal- and
> oil-fired plants, and partly through routine maintenance, bringing the
> total down to 52-57gW. Yet in a cold snap demand could rise to 60-62gW."
> 
> James

Looks like those church candles will come in handy.
date: 06 Oct 2008 18:56:30 GMT   author:   Ian Smith

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