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date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:33:50 -0700 (PDT),
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Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus, displayed
head to fellow passengers
Imagine what just one person with a Concealed Carry license could have
done.
Killer stabbed and decapitated victim on Canada bus
August 01, 2008
A MAN aboard a Greyhound bus travelling across Canada calmly stabbed
another man and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head
to horrified passengers.
The attacker then proceeded to disembowel his victim, witnesses told
police.
Passengers fled the bus in panic, and police said later their quick
evacuation may have kept the killer from turning on others.
A 40-year-old man, who was not identified, was arrested for the murder
on the bus, which was travelling overnight Wednesday from Edmonton,
Alberta, to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sergeant
Steve Colwell told a news conference.
Colwell said police apprehended the man when he broke a window and
tried to escape from the bus by jumping out. Authorities declined to
name the victim and provided little details about the stabbing.
Colwell said they didn't know what prompted the attack and said they
had not yet interviewed the man as of mid Thursday afternoon. He did
not explain the delay.
Passengers said the attacker did not seem to know the victim, who
appeared to be about 19 years old, and that he wore sunglasses
throughout the attack although it was the middle of the night.
Passenger Garnet Caton said the victim was sleeping with headphones on
before he was stabbed 40 or 50 times by the man sitting next to him.
"We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was
standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly, like 40 or 50 times," Caton
said from a hotel in Brandon, Manitoba, where he and other passengers
had been taken to rest.
Caton said the bus stopped and the passengers scrambled to disembark
while the suspect allegedly began methodically carving up the man's
body.
The attacker severed the man's head with a large hunting knife and
held the head up by the door for others to see.
"When he was attacking him, he was calm ... like he was at the beach,"
Caton said. "There was no rage or, or anything. He was just like a
robot stabbing the guy."
Caton said that the attacker eventually tried to get off the bus, but
that he, the driver and a passing trucker who had stopped to help,
threw their weight against the door to prevent the man from leaving.
When the attacker appeared to be attempting to start up the bus and
drive away, the bus driver went to the rear of the bus and somehow
disabled it, Caton said.
Fellow passenger Cody Olmstead said the man "dropped the head and went
back and started cutting the body back up."
Olmstead said the man later taunted police, who had surrounded the
bus, and dropped the head in front of them.
He said some of the passengers were watching the movie "Zorro" when
the attack took place.
Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said 37 passengers and one driver
were on the bus.
The victim had been on the bus since Edmonton. Caton said the attacker
boarded the bus around Brandon, Manitoba, about 130 kilometres west of
Portage La Prairie, a town in the heart of the Canadian Prairies.
The suspect had been on the bus for about an hour and didn't even sit
near his victim at first.
"He sat in the front at first, everything was normal," Caton said.
He continued: "We went to the next stop and he got off and had a smoke
with another young lady there. When he got on the bus again, he came
to the back near where I was sitting. He put his bags in the overhead
compartment. He didn't say a word to anybody. He seemed totally
normal. About a half an hour later, we heard this bloodcurdling
scream."
Colwell, the RCMP spokesman, praised the passengers for their
behaviour.
"It's not something that happens regularly on a bus," he said. "You're
sitting there enjoying your trip and then all of a sudden somebody
gets stabbed. I imagine it would be pretty traumatic ... the way they
acted was extraordinary."
Colwell added that "they reacted swiftly, calmly in exiting the bus
and, as a result, nobody else was injured."
Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day called it a "horrific" incident,
but did not discuss details of the attack, saying he did not want to
jeopardise the investigation.
"We want to make sure that the process is followed as aggressively as
possible, a full legal process, and the perpetrator is definitely
dealt with the full force of the law," he said.
Day called it bizarre and extremely rare.
"The horrific nature of it is probably one-of-a-kind in Canadian
history," Day said.
date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:33:50 -0700 (PDT)
author: St Georges Day April 23rd
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Re: Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus,
displayed head to fellow passengers
On Aug 1, 3:33 am, St Georges Day April 23rd
wrote:
> Imagine what just one person with a Concealed Carry license could have
> done.
>
> Killer stabbed and decapitated victim on Canada bus
> August 01, 2008
>
> A MAN aboard a Greyhound bus travelling across Canada calmly stabbed
> another man and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head
> to horrified passengers.
> The attacker then proceeded to disembowel his victim, witnesses told
> police.
>
> Passengers fled the bus in panic, and police said later their quick
> evacuation may have kept the killer from turning on others.
>
> A 40-year-old man, who was not identified, was arrested for the murder
> on the bus, which was travelling overnight Wednesday from Edmonton,
> Alberta, to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Royal Canadian Mounted Police Sergeant
> Steve Colwell told a news conference.
>
> Colwell said police apprehended the man when he broke a window and
> tried to escape from the bus by jumping out. Authorities declined to
> name the victim and provided little details about the stabbing.
>
> Colwell said they didn't know what prompted the attack and said they
> had not yet interviewed the man as of mid Thursday afternoon. He did
> not explain the delay.
>
> Passengers said the attacker did not seem to know the victim, who
> appeared to be about 19 years old, and that he wore sunglasses
> throughout the attack although it was the middle of the night.
>
> Passenger Garnet Caton said the victim was sleeping with headphones on
> before he was stabbed 40 or 50 times by the man sitting next to him.
>
> "We heard this bloodcurdling scream and turned around, and the guy was
> standing up, stabbing this guy repeatedly, like 40 or 50 times," Caton
> said from a hotel in Brandon, Manitoba, where he and other passengers
> had been taken to rest.
>
> Caton said the bus stopped and the passengers scrambled to disembark
> while the suspect allegedly began methodically carving up the man's
> body.
>
> The attacker severed the man's head with a large hunting knife and
> held the head up by the door for others to see.
>
> "When he was attacking him, he was calm ... like he was at the beach,"
> Caton said. "There was no rage or, or anything. He was just like a
> robot stabbing the guy."
>
> Caton said that the attacker eventually tried to get off the bus, but
> that he, the driver and a passing trucker who had stopped to help,
> threw their weight against the door to prevent the man from leaving.
> When the attacker appeared to be attempting to start up the bus and
> drive away, the bus driver went to the rear of the bus and somehow
> disabled it, Caton said.
>
> Fellow passenger Cody Olmstead said the man "dropped the head and went
> back and started cutting the body back up."
>
> Olmstead said the man later taunted police, who had surrounded the
> bus, and dropped the head in front of them.
>
> He said some of the passengers were watching the movie "Zorro" when
> the attack took place.
>
> Greyhound spokeswoman Abby Wambaugh said 37 passengers and one driver
> were on the bus.
>
> The victim had been on the bus since Edmonton. Caton said the attacker
> boarded the bus around Brandon, Manitoba, about 130 kilometres west of
> Portage La Prairie, a town in the heart of the Canadian Prairies.
>
> The suspect had been on the bus for about an hour and didn't even sit
> near his victim at first.
>
> "He sat in the front at first, everything was normal," Caton said.
>
> He continued: "We went to the next stop and he got off and had a smoke
> with another young lady there. When he got on the bus again, he came
> to the back near where I was sitting. He put his bags in the overhead
> compartment. He didn't say a word to anybody. He seemed totally
> normal. About a half an hour later, we heard this bloodcurdling
> scream."
>
> Colwell, the RCMP spokesman, praised the passengers for their
> behaviour.
>
> "It's not something that happens regularly on a bus," he said. "You're
> sitting there enjoying your trip and then all of a sudden somebody
> gets stabbed. I imagine it would be pretty traumatic ... the way they
> acted was extraordinary."
>
> Colwell added that "they reacted swiftly, calmly in exiting the bus
> and, as a result, nobody else was injured."
>
> Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day called it a "horrific" incident,
> but did not discuss details of the attack, saying he did not want to
> jeopardise the investigation.
>
> "We want to make sure that the process is followed as aggressively as
> possible, a full legal process, and the perpetrator is definitely
> dealt with the full force of the law," he said.
>
> Day called it bizarre and extremely rare.
>
> "The horrific nature of it is probably one-of-a-kind in Canadian
> history," Day said.
Down here in the lower 48 that action would be legal. George Bush
has made "preemptive strikes" legal here. Who knows what kind of
hidden weapon that sleeping guy might have had on him. Best you go
in and destroy and kill first ,rather than take the risk of being
surprised later. That is the new policy of warfare down here.
Somedays you guys up there will see the value of it. Hell you might
even want to bomb us because we have tons of WMDs.
date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:15:05 -0700 (PDT)
author: unknown
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Re: Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus, displayed head to fellow passengers
In talk.politics.guns St Georges Day April 23rd
wrote:
>Imagine what just one person with a Concealed Carry license could have
>done.
>
>Killer stabbed and decapitated victim on Canada bus
>August 01, 2008
>
>A MAN aboard a Greyhound bus travelling across Canada calmly stabbed
>another man and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head
>to horrified passengers.
>The attacker then proceeded to disembowel his victim, witnesses told
>police.
You fool! Everyone knows that if you fired a gun on a bus, you'd
depressurize the cabin and the bus would crash!
date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 05:43:08 -0700
author: Klaus Schadenfreude kschadenfreude @comcast.net
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Re: Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus,
displayed head to fellow passengers
On Aug 1, 8:43 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net>
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns St Georges Day April 23rd
>
> wrote:
> >Imagine what just one person with a Concealed Carry license could have
> >done.
>
> >Killer stabbed and decapitated victim on Canada bus
> >August 01, 2008
>
> >A MAN aboard a Greyhound bus travelling across Canada calmly stabbed
> >another man and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head
> >to horrified passengers.
> >The attacker then proceeded to disembowel his victim, witnesses told
> >police.
>
> You fool! Everyone knows that if you fired a gun on a bus, you'd
> depressurize the cabin and the bus would crash!
And if the perp had a gun instead of a knife, being at the back of the
bus, it would have been a blood bath because he'd be picking off
passengers like shooting pumpkins on a fence. Then there's the
collateral damage caused by the panicked gunfire of the passengers
who were packing.
St. Georges is clearly another mentally ill idiot who thinks life is a
Hollywood western.
date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:16:13 -0700 (PDT)
author: Brainius
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Re: Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus, displayed head to fellow passengers
In talk.politics.guns Brainius wrote:
>On Aug 1, 8:43 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net>
>wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns St Georges Day April 23rd
>>
>> wrote:
>> >Imagine what just one person with a Concealed Carry license could have
>> >done.
>>
>> >Killer stabbed and decapitated victim on Canada bus
>> >August 01, 2008
>>
>> >A MAN aboard a Greyhound bus travelling across Canada calmly stabbed
>> >another man and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head
>> >to horrified passengers.
>> >The attacker then proceeded to disembowel his victim, witnesses told
>> >police.
>>
>> You fool! Everyone knows that if you fired a gun on a bus, you'd
>> depressurize the cabin and the bus would crash!
>
>And if the perp had a gun instead of a knife, being at the back of the
>bus, it would have been a blood bath because he'd be picking off
>passengers like shooting pumpkins on a fence. Then there's the
>collateral damage caused by the panicked gunfire of the passengers
>who were packing.
So your suggestion is that we should just submit to people who cut the
heads off fellow passengers because, gash darn it, an innocent person
might get shot.
Brilliant.
>St. Georges is clearly another mentally ill idiot who thinks life is a
>Hollywood western.
Brainus is clearly another limp-wristed leftist who thinks scurrying
for cover is always the best defense against an attacker.
date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 06:35:05 -0700
author: Klaus Schadenfreude kschadenfreude @comcast.net
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American Keyboard Rambo Speaks!
On Aug 1, 9:35 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net>
wrote:
> In talk.politics.guns Brainius wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On Aug 1, 8:43 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net>
> >wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns St Georges Day April 23rd
>
> >> wrote:
> >> >Imagine what just one person with a Concealed Carry license could have
> >> >done.
>
> >> >Killer stabbed and decapitated victim on Canada bus
> >> >August 01, 2008
>
> >> >A MAN aboard a Greyhound bus travelling across Canada calmly stabbed
> >> >another man and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head
> >> >to horrified passengers.
> >> >The attacker then proceeded to disembowel his victim, witnesses told
> >> >police.
>
> >> You fool! Everyone knows that if you fired a gun on a bus, you'd
> >> depressurize the cabin and the bus would crash!
>
> >And if the perp had a gun instead of a knife, being at the back of the
> >bus, it would have been a blood bath because he'd be picking off
> >passengers like shooting pumpkins on a fence. Then there's the
> >collateral damage caused by the panicked gunfire of the passengers
> >who were packing.
>
> So your suggestion is that we should just submit to people who cut the
> heads off fellow passengers because, gash darn it, an innocent person
> might get shot.
It happens all the time in the USA. Why! Being stabbed 50 times for
no reason and then beheaded on a Greyhound Bus is as common as being
hit by a drunk driver these days.
That's why everybody carries guns and thinks that they're a big, brave
keyboard Rambo like you!
And, it always happens at a snail's pace so you have all the time in
the world to react!
Didn't you once say that if JFK, MLK, Bobby Kennedy and Lincoln had
been carrying hand guns that they would never have been shot because
they would have pulled out their trusty pistols and gunned down the
perp?
You live in a world of heroes.
date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
author: AirWorks
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Re: Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus, displayed head to fellow passengers
Brainius wrote in news:f9cf6efd-cba3-4874-a0c9-
bf8e414a574f@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
> On Aug 1, 8:43 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net>
> wrote:
>> In talk.politics.guns St Georges Day April 23rd
>>
>> wrote:
>> >Imagine what just one person with a Concealed Carry license could have
>> >done.
>>
>> >Killer stabbed and decapitated victim on Canada bus
>> >August 01, 2008
>>
>> >A MAN aboard a Greyhound bus travelling across Canada calmly stabbed
>> >another man and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head
>> >to horrified passengers.
>> >The attacker then proceeded to disembowel his victim, witnesses told
>> >police.
>>
>> You fool! Everyone knows that if you fired a gun on a bus, you'd
>> depressurize the cabin and the bus would crash!
>
> And if the perp had a gun instead of a knife, being at the back of the
> bus, it would have been a blood bath because he'd be picking off
> passengers like shooting pumpkins on a fence. Then there's the
> collateral damage caused by the panicked gunfire of the passengers
> who were packing.
>
> St. Georges is clearly another mentally ill idiot who thinks life is a
> Hollywood western.
>
>
And you are a victim waiting for an attacker.
Frank
date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:39:38 -0500
author: (Gray Ghost)
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Re: Gunloon Rambo tells us how it really happened!
AirWorks wrote:
>
> On Aug 1, 11:16 am, Fifty...@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:15:05 -0700 (PDT), "free.tun...@gmail.com"
> >
> > wrote:
> > >Down here in the lower 48 that action would be legal. George Bush
> > >has made "preemptive strikes" legal here.
> >
> > Uh extremist BDS asshole, watching someone getting STABBED 40-50 times
> > and having his head HACKED OFF and DOING something about it would NOT
> > be "preemptive".
>
> What an idiot. The guy was dead before anyone noticed that there
> even was a stabbing.
>
> I suppose that you would have rushed against the crowded evacuating
> the bus and bravely let off a half dozen rounds because to idiots like
> you, these things happen in slow motion and hindsight to a moron like
> you is always 20/20 because how it really went down to you is what
> your vivid imagination dictates in that pea sized brain of yours, not
> reality.
>
> Stupid gunloons and ther Rambo fantasies. Hilarious.
>
How do you know that the person who was armed wouldn't be in a
position to get a clear shot? How do you know the knife killer
would focus on the one victim and not others? I guess we'll have to
wait to see if there are copycat attacks as have been he case after
school and mall and other similar shootings.
--
"Bender, where did you get that bird?"
"I found it lying in the street, like all the food I cook."
Bender, "Futurama"
date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:38:30 +0100
author: Bill Bonde { ''Mr Gore, tear down this wall'')
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Re: Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus, displayed head to fellow passengers
On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:15:05 -0700 (PDT), "free.tuneup@gmail.com"
wrote:
>Down here in the lower 48 that action would be legal. George Bush
>has made "preemptive strikes" legal here.
Uh extremist BDS asshole, watching someone getting STABBED 40-50 times
and having his head HACKED OFF and DOING something about it would NOT
be "preemptive". It would not be "vigilantism". That the SHEEP in
Kanada were UNARMED and all they could do is HIDE AND WATCH is a
condition of their country. Take your "Bush derangment syndrome" and
stick it up your ass. You want to bang on PRESIDENT BUSH, don't
compare it to a savage attack that people were forced to watch. Ya,
ya, Iraq was wrong and we "can't drill our way out of this crisis",
blah blah blah. ESAD.
date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:16:17 -0500
author: unknown
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Gunloon Rambo tells us how it really happened!
On Aug 1, 11:16 am, Fifty...@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:15:05 -0700 (PDT), "free.tun...@gmail.com"
>
> wrote:
> >Down here in the lower 48 that action would be legal. George Bush
> >has made "preemptive strikes" legal here.
>
> Uh extremist BDS asshole, watching someone getting STABBED 40-50 times
> and having his head HACKED OFF and DOING something about it would NOT
> be "preemptive".
What an idiot. The guy was dead before anyone noticed that there
even was a stabbing.
I suppose that you would have rushed against the crowded evacuating
the bus and bravely let off a half dozen rounds because to idiots like
you, these things happen in slow motion and hindsight to a moron like
you is always 20/20 because how it really went down to you is what
your vivid imagination dictates in that pea sized brain of yours, not
reality.
Stupid gunloons and ther Rambo fantasies. Hilarious.
date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:58:28 -0700 (PDT)
author: AirWorks
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Re: Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus,
displayed head to fellow passengers
On Aug 1, 10:39 am, grey_ghost471-newsgro...@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost)
wrote:
> Brainius wrote in news:f9cf6efd-cba3-4874-a0c9> bf8e414a5...@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 1, 8:43 am, Klaus Schadenfreude <kschadenfreude @comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >> In talk.politics.guns St Georges Day April 23rd
>
> >> wrote:
> >> >Imagine what just one person with a Concealed Carry license could have
> >> >done.
>
> >> >Killer stabbed and decapitated victim on Canada bus
> >> >August 01, 2008
>
> >> >A MAN aboard a Greyhound bus travelling across Canada calmly stabbed
> >> >another man and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head
> >> >to horrified passengers.
> >> >The attacker then proceeded to disembowel his victim, witnesses told
> >> >police.
>
> >> You fool! Everyone knows that if you fired a gun on a bus, you'd
> >> depressurize the cabin and the bus would crash!
>
> > And if the perp had a gun instead of a knife, being at the back of the
> > bus, it would have been a blood bath because he'd be picking off
> > passengers like shooting pumpkins on a fence. Then there's the
> > collateral damage caused by the panicked gunfire of the passengers
> > who were packing.
>
> > St. Georges is clearly another mentally ill idiot who thinks life is a
> > Hollywood western.
>
> And you are a victim waiting for an attacker.
>
Looks like we have another keyboard Rambo, out fighting crime and
mindless parroting the usual NRA talking points gleaned from bumper
stickers at the meetings.
Reality is the enemy for those cowboys.
date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:48:38 -0700 (PDT)
author: AirWorks
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Re: Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus, displayed head to fellow passengers
wrote in message
news:ef4de361-9e3c-4061-90ef-f984de36b209@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> Down here in the lower 48 that action would be legal. George Bush
> has made "preemptive strikes" legal here. Who knows what kind of
> hidden weapon that sleeping guy might have had on him. Best you go
> in and destroy and kill first ,rather than take the risk of being
> surprised later. That is the new policy of warfare down here.
> Somedays you guys up there will see the value of it. Hell you might
> even want to bomb us because we have tons of WMDs.
Most people try to keep their stupidity hidden. You, on the other hand,
seem to revel in rubbing your ignorance in everybody's face.
<flush>
date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:48:26 -0700
author: Felix D. #
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Re: Passenger stabbed and decapitated victim on Greyhound bus, displayed head to fellow passengers
"St Georges Day April 23rd" wrote in
message
news:1f842c87-9670-49c6-b6a3-fd29045385c9@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> Imagine what just one person with a Concealed Carry license could have
> done.
>
> Killer stabbed and decapitated victim on Canada bus
> August 01, 2008
>
> A MAN aboard a Greyhound bus travelling across Canada calmly stabbed
> another man and decapitated him, pausing briefly to display the head
> to horrified passengers.
> The attacker then proceeded to disembowel his victim, witnesses told
> police.
>
I guess the gun ban didn't stop this dude. Incredible.
date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:52:03 GMT
author: Wayne
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