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date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:39:23 -0600,    group: uk.politics.guns        back       
=> Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
Man opens fire outside California church
  a.. Shooter's intended victim was ex-girlfriend, reports KTLA

  b.. Three people wounded, one of them critically, police say

  c.. Bystanders tackle man and hold him until police arrive

  d.. The motive for the attack not immediately known, official says

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- A man with a rifle opened fire near a 
church Saturday morning in the San Fernando Valley and wounded three people, 
Los Angeles police said.

Fernando Diaz Jr., 33, was arrested on suspicion of attempted murder, said 
Los Angeles Police Officer Ana Aguirre. He was held in Van Nuys jail in lieu 
of $1.5 million bail.

"I don't really have too much to say about that. It's a personal thing 
between me and the church," Diaz said to The Associated Press before being 
taken to jail.

When asked if he has an issue with the church, Diaz responded: "The church 
has an issue with me."

Diaz is the father of a student who goes to the church school, according to 
CNN affiliate KTLA.

A second victim was in stable condition and a third was in critical 
condition, Los Angeles police spokeswoman Norma Eisenman said.

The man in critical condition was shot in the chest. He is 45. Another man, 
47, was struck in the leg and is in stable condition, reported KTLA. The 
names of the victims have not yet been released.

"We believe this is an isolated incident, a domestic-violence dispute," said 
police Capt. Steven Ruiz.

Authorities said Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a 
restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near the school, 
his son and wife.

The Rev. Robert Milbauer, the parish's pastor, told AP that about 50 people, 
mainly church volunteers and their children, were setting up food and game 
booths and carnival-style rides when the gunfire erupted.

"I was walking toward the festival area to say an opening prayer and I saw 
them," Milbauer told AP of the shooting victims.

"I heard bang, bang, bang, bang. It sounded like balloons popping," said 
Jeff Sempelsz, a church volunteer speaking to AP. "I didn't know what it was 
but I could see the rifle in his hand."

William Griffin, a security guard at the festival, was standing near the 
entrance. "I heard someone yell, 'Somebody's shooting. Somebody's shooting.' 
I turned and saw a man with a long rifle. He was very calm," Griffin told 
AP.

The guard said he herded people into the church, then began locking the 
doors. The man who had been shot in the leg calmly limped in with the 
others, Griffin told AP.

The suspect was reloading his weapon when he was tackled by several 
witnesses who were volunteers at the festival. The shooter put up a fight, 
struggling and taunting people as they were trying to subdue him. KTLA said 
the suspect and the weapon were taken into custody near the church, St. John 
Baptist de la Salle Parish in the Granada Hills area of Los Angeles.

The call about the shooting came in around 10:57 a.m. PT (1:57 p.m. ET), 
KTLA said.

The festival was shut down for the day, and Milbauer told AP that grief 
counselors were meeting with witnesses, particularly the children. The 
parish plans to go ahead with the festival on Sunday, Milbauer said, in part 
to help parishioners put the tragedy behind them.
date: Sun, 18 May 2008 10:39:23 -0600   author:   Reality_Check?

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"Reality_Check©" wrote:

< s n i p >

----------

Wrong title, Bubba!

Here's USA Today's article:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm

Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a Christian a bit more than 
your attending a dog show makes you a dog -- though some may think you are.

There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic dispute.  His wife and 
child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even say that *they* are Christians, much less 
the SOB who decided to have his 15 minutes of "fame"!

Al
date: Sun, 18 May 2008 13:20:37 -0400   author:   Al Patrick

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
news:TPCdnbJV6Yf7-K3VnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@posted.telpage...
> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
>
> < s n i p >
>
> ----------
>
> Wrong title, Bubba!
>
> Here's USA Today's article:
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
>
> Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a Christian a 
> bit more than your attending a dog show makes you a dog -- though some may 
> think you are.
>
> There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic dispute. 
> His wife and child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even say that *they* 
> are Christians, much less the SOB who decided to have his 15 minutes of 
> "fame"!

Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?

Are you denying that the Christian God had the power to stop/prevent this 
shooting?
date: Sun, 18 May 2008 18:25:53 -0600   author:   Reality_Check?

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
On Sun, 18 May 2008 13:20:37 -0400, Al Patrick  wrote:

>"Reality_Check©" wrote:
>
>< s n i p >
>
>----------
>
>Wrong title, Bubba!
>
>Here's USA Today's article:
>
>http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
>
>Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a Christian a bit more than 
>your attending a dog show makes you a dog -- though some may think you are.
>
>There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic dispute.  His wife and 
>child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even say that *they* are Christians, much less 
>the SOB who decided to have his 15 minutes of "fame"!
>
>Al

    Jonezie, under his MANY kill filter avoiding nym shifts, doesn't
allow the truth of facts to enter into anything.  Ever.

-- 

Bless me, Father, for I have committed an original sin.
I poked a badger with a spoon.
date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:44:57 -0500   author:   Kent Wills

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
On Sun, 18 May 2008 18:25:53 -0600, "Reality_Check©"
 wrote:

>
>"Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
>news:TPCdnbJV6Yf7-K3VnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@posted.telpage...
>> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
>>
>> < s n i p >
>>
>> ----------
>>
>> Wrong title, Bubba!
>>
>> Here's USA Today's article:
>>
>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
>>
>> Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a Christian a 
>> bit more than your attending a dog show makes you a dog -- though some may 
>> think you are.
>>
>> There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic dispute. 
>> His wife and child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even say that *they* 
>> are Christians, much less the SOB who decided to have his 15 minutes of 
>> "fame"!
>
>Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?

    There's nothing in the article to indicate any religious belief.
At this point, it's likely he's an atheist.

>
>Are you denying that the Christian God had the power to stop/prevent this 
>shooting?
>

     So now you're back to believing.
    Of course, you consistently prove you believe in the Christian
God, so this isn't a surprise to me.


-- 
  Aspire to inspire before you expire.
date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:46:42 -0500   author:   Kent Wills

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
Kent Wills wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2008 18:25:53 -0600, "Reality_Check©"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>> "Al Patrick"  wrote in message
>> news:TPCdnbJV6Yf7-K3VnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@posted.telpage...
>>> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
>>>
>>> < s n i p >
>>>
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> Wrong title, Bubba!
>>>
>>> Here's USA Today's article:
>>>
>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
>>>
>>> Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a
>>> Christian a bit more than your attending a dog show makes you a dog
>>> -- though some may think you are.
>>>
>>> There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic
>>> dispute. His wife and child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even
>>> say that *they* are Christians, much less the SOB who decided to
>>> have his 15 minutes of "fame"!
>>
>> Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?
>
>    There's nothing in the article to indicate any religious belief.
> At this point, it's likely he's an atheist.


You're lying again you child-molesting shiteater.
date: Sun, 18 May 2008 19:59:28 -0600   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
In article , Reality@Check.it 
says...


> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a 
> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near the school, 
> his son and wife.

Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system

-- 

"Oh Norman, listen!  The loons are calling!"
   - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:24:22 -0700   author:   tankfixer

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
In article , Reality@Check.it 
says...
> 
> "Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
> news:TPCdnbJV6Yf7-K3VnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@posted.telpage...
> > "Reality_Check©" wrote:
> >
> > < s n i p >
> >
> > ----------
> >
> > Wrong title, Bubba!
> >
> > Here's USA Today's article:
> >
> > http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
> >
> > Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a Christian a 
> > bit more than your attending a dog show makes you a dog -- though some may 
> > think you are.
> >
> > There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic dispute. 
> > His wife and child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even say that *they* 
> > are Christians, much less the SOB who decided to have his 15 minutes of 
> > "fame"!
> 
> Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?

You have presented no evidence he is.



-- 

"Oh Norman, listen!  The loons are calling!"
   - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
date: Sun, 18 May 2008 20:24:27 -0700   author:   tankfixer

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"zxcvbob"  wrote in message 
news:69bkvkF322206U1@mid.individual.net...
> Al Patrick wrote:
>> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
>>
>> < s n i p >
>>
>> ----------
>>
>> Wrong title, Bubba!
>>
>> Here's USA Today's article:
>>
>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
>>
>> Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a Christian 
>> a bit more than your attending a dog show makes you a dog -- though some 
>> may think you are.
>>
>> There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic 
>> dispute.  His wife and child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even say 
>> that *they* are Christians, much less the SOB who decided to have his 15 
>> minutes of "fame"!
>>
>> Al
>
>
> It's encouraging to see that the victims rushed and overpowered the guy.

God's will ...
date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:13:49 -0600   author:   Reality_Check?

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
tankfixer wrote:
> In article , Reality@Check.it
> says...
>>
>> "Al Patrick"  wrote in message
>> news:TPCdnbJV6Yf7-K3VnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@posted.telpage...
>>> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
>>>
>>> < s n i p >
>>>
>>> ----------
>>>
>>> Wrong title, Bubba!
>>>
>>> Here's USA Today's article:
>>>
>>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
>>>
>>> Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a
>>> Christian a bit more than your attending a dog show makes you a dog
>>> -- though some may think you are.
>>>
>>> There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic
>>> dispute. His wife and child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even
>>> say that *they* are Christians, much less the SOB who decided to
>>> have his 15 minutes of "fame"!
>>
>> Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?
>
> You have presented no evidence he is.

Find those massive stockpiles of WMD yet, asswipe?
date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:25:04 -0600   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
In article , theprof@jonez.net 
says...
> tankfixer wrote:
> > In article , Reality@Check.it
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Al Patrick"  wrote in message
> >> news:TPCdnbJV6Yf7-K3VnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@posted.telpage...
> >>> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> < s n i p >
> >>>
> >>> ----------
> >>>
> >>> Wrong title, Bubba!
> >>>
> >>> Here's USA Today's article:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
> >>>
> >>> Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a
> >>> Christian a bit more than your attending a dog show makes you a dog
> >>> -- though some may think you are.
> >>>
> >>> There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic
> >>> dispute. His wife and child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even
> >>> say that *they* are Christians, much less the SOB who decided to
> >>> have his 15 minutes of "fame"!
> >>
> >> Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?
> >
> > You have presented no evidence he is.
> 
> Find those massive stockpiles of WMD yet, asswipe?

ADHD are you ?
I've noticed you have a hard time staying on subject.

-- 

"Oh Norman, listen!  The loons are calling!"
   - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
date: Mon, 19 May 2008 20:45:41 -0700   author:   tankfixer

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"tankfixer"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.229bdeef41431205989713@nntp.earthlink.net...
In article , theprof@jonez.net
says...
> tankfixer wrote:
> > In article , Reality@Check.it
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Al Patrick"  wrote in message
> >> news:TPCdnbJV6Yf7-K3VnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@posted.telpage...
> >>> "Reality_Check©" wrote:
> >>>
> >>> < s n i p >
> >>>
> >>> ----------
> >>>
> >>> Wrong title, Bubba!
> >>>
> >>> Here's USA Today's article:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
> >>>
> >>> Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a
> >>> Christian a bit more than your attending a dog show makes you a dog
> >>> -- though some may think you are.
> >>>
> >>> There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic
> >>> dispute. His wife and child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even
> >>> say that *they* are Christians, much less the SOB who decided to
> >>> have his 15 minutes of "fame"!
> >>
> >> Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?
> >
> > You have presented no evidence he is.
>
> Find those massive stockpiles of WMD yet, asswipe?

ADHD are you ?
I've noticed you have a hard time staying on subject.

========

DateNameStatusCause of DeathPlace of Death
05/18/08Haunert, BrandenPendingHostile - hostile fire - IED attackSalah ad 
Din Province
05/15/08Daggett, John K.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - RPG 
attackHalifax, Canada
05/14/08Cota, Victor M.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaghdad (Kadamiyah)
05/11/08Ellis, Jessica A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaghdad (northwest of)
05/10/08Ford, Joseph A.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - vehicle accidentAl Asad
05/09/08Jaenichen, Mary J.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - injuryIskandariyah
05/06/08Ward, Aaron J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms 
fireAnbar Province
05/06/08Gonzalez, Alex D.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms 
fire, RPGMosul
05/02/08Hicks, Corey L.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaghdad (eastern part)
05/01/08Casanova, Casey L.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackAl Anbar Province
05/01/08Guzman, Miguel A. DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackAl Anbar Province
05/01/08Kimple, James F.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackAl Anbar Province
05/01/08Martinez, Glen E. DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackAl Anbar Province
05/01/08Nichols, Jeffrey F.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attack (VBIED)Baghdad (central)
04/30/08Caldwell, Chad A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackMosul
04/30/08Pearson, Andrew. R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaghdad (southern part)
04/30/08Tucker, Ronald J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaghdad (southern part)
04/30/08Ezell, Lawrence D.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaghdad (northern part)
04/29/08Craig, Clay A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms 
fireBaghdad (northeastern part)
04/29/08Bolander, Bryan E.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaghdad
04/28/08McCormick, David P.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - Rocket 
fireBaghdad (western part)
04/28/08Marion, Adam L.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - indirect 
fireBaghdad
04/28/08Mathes, Marcus C.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - indirect 
fireBaghdad
04/28/08Stone, Mark A. DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - indirect 
fireBaghdad
04/27/08Dix, William T.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileCamp Buehring
04/24/08Whitehead, Shaun J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED, 
small arms fireIskandariyah
04/23/08Ramirez, Guadalupe CervantesDoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - vehicle 
accidentCamp Arifjan
04/23/08Bishop, John T.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - vehicle rolloverGolden 
Hills
04/23/08Cunningham, Timothy W.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - vehicle 
rolloverGolden Hills
04/23/08Blystone, Ronald C.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small 
arms fireBaghdad (eastern part)
04/22/08Harrison, Ronald R.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostile - injuryFOB Falcon 
(nr. Baghdad)
04/22/08Haerter, Jordan C.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attack (VBIED)Ramadi (near)
04/22/08Yale, Jonathan T.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED attack 
(VBIED)Ramadi (near)
04/21/08Campos, Adrian M.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileDubai
04/21/08Vandergrift, Matthew R.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBasra
04/21/08Christofferson, Steven J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - 
IED attackBaiji
04/21/08Kohlhaas, Adam J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaiji
04/20/08Morton, Cherie L.DoD ConfirmationNon-hostileGalali, Muharraq
04/18/08Brosh, Benjamin K.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attack (VBIED)Balad
04/18/08Eakes, Lance O.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaghdad (north of)
04/17/08Brown, Jason L.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - small arms 
fire, grenadeSama Village
04/14/08Huerta-Cruz, ArturoDoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackTuz
04/14/08Richard III, Joseph A.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackBaghdad (northeastern part)
04/14/08Nelson, Richard J.DoD ConfirmationHostile - hostile fire - IED 
attackAl Anbar Province

and 4000 more suckers who died meaningless deaths for the criminal Bush 
mob's LIES ...

http://icasualties.org/oif/BY_DOD.aspx
date: Mon, 19 May 2008 21:58:42 -0600   author:   Reality_Check?

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
On Sun, 18 May 2008 20:24:27 -0700, tankfixer  wrote:

>In article , Reality@Check.it 
>says...
>> 
>> "Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
>> news:TPCdnbJV6Yf7-K3VnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@posted.telpage...
>> > "Reality_Check©" wrote:
>> >
>> > < s n i p >
>> >
>> > ----------
>> >
>> > Wrong title, Bubba!
>> >
>> > Here's USA Today's article:
>> >
>> > http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-05-17-church-shooting-socal_N.htm
>> >
>> > Because he did the shooting at a church does not mean he was a Christian a 
>> > bit more than your attending a dog show makes you a dog -- though some may 
>> > think you are.
>> >
>> > There was a restraining order against the man.  It was a domestic dispute. 
>> > His wife and child *attended* the church.  It doesn't even say that *they* 
>> > are Christians, much less the SOB who decided to have his 15 minutes of 
>> > "fame"!
>> 
>> Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?
>
>You have presented no evidence he is.

So the original poster was trolling by posting with a misleading subject line.

That's quite common with usenet trolls and kooks. One of the popular ones with
them these days is putting something in the subject line about Barack Obama
being a Muslim.


-- 
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 06:22:40 +0200   author:   Steve Hayes

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"tankfixer"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.229a9270a958cf089896cb@nntp.earthlink.net...
> In article , Reality@Check.it
> says...
>
>
>> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
>> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near the school,
>> his son and wife.
>
> Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system

Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
date: Mon, 19 May 2008 23:25:15 -0600   author:   Reality_Check?

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
Reality_Check© wrote:

> 
> and 4000 more suckers who died meaningless deaths for the criminal Bush 
> mob's LIES ...


Whoever said George W. Bush was a Christian?

A drunk Christian?  He, along with many in Washington, D.C., does have a drinking problem

According to the Bible G.W. would not even make a good deacon.  It says a deacon must rule 
his own household well, obedient exemplary children, etc.  He had two young drunk teens! 
Of course, he, like Teddy boy, set a fine example in this area.
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:30:33 -0400   author:   Al Patrick

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
On May 18, 9:59 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote:
> Kent Wills wrote:

> >> Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?
>
> >    There's nothing in the article to indicate any religious belief.
> > At this point, it's likely he's an atheist.

> You're lying again you child-molesting shiteater.

Once again "prof" Jonez dominates the argument with his incisive,
penetrating logic and overpowering intellect!
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 09:45:54 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Benj

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
Benj wrote:
> On May 18, 9:59 pm, "_ Prof. Jonez _"  wrote:
>> Kent Wills wrote:
>
>>>> Are you denying that the shooter is a Christian?
>>
>>>    There's nothing in the article to indicate any religious belief.
>>> At this point, it's likely he's an atheist.
>
>> You're lying again you child-molesting shiteater.
>
> Once again "prof" Jonez dominates the argument with his incisive,
> penetrating logic and overpowering intellect!

Oh lookie here, Benj the bigoted racist scumbag thinks he has something to say.
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:22:10 -0600   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
news:NqqdnY4HWqQBc6_VnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@internetofbeaufortcounty...
> Reality_Check© wrote:
>
>>
>> and 4000 more suckers who died meaningless deaths for the criminal Bush 
>> mob's LIES ...
>
>
> Whoever said George W. Bush was a Christian?
>
> A drunk Christian?  He, along with many in Washington, D.C., does have a 
> drinking problem
>
> According to the Bible G.W. would not even make a good deacon.  It says a 
> deacon must rule his own household well, obedient exemplary children, etc. 
> He had two young drunk teens! Of course, he, like Teddy boy, set a fine 
> example in this area.


One of these days you idiots are going to realize W isn't running for 
president this time/  Of course, its better for us all if you fools waste 
your time doing BushBash since that keeps you from meddling elsewhere.
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 11:22:48 -0700   author:   Felix D. #

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
Felix D. wrote:
> "Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
> news:NqqdnY4HWqQBc6_VnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@internetofbeaufortcounty...
>> Reality_Check© wrote:
>>
>>> and 4000 more suckers who died meaningless deaths for the criminal Bush 
>>> mob's LIES ...
>>
>> Whoever said George W. Bush was a Christian?
>>
>> A drunk Christian?  He, along with many in Washington, D.C., does have a 
>> drinking problem
>>
>> According to the Bible G.W. would not even make a good deacon.  It says a 
>> deacon must rule his own household well, obedient exemplary children, etc. 
>> He had two young drunk teens! Of course, he, like Teddy boy, set a fine 
>> example in this area.
> 
> 
> One of these days you idiots are going to realize W isn't running for 
> president this time/  Of course, its better for us all if you fools waste 
> your time doing BushBash since that keeps you from meddling elsewhere. 
> 
> 

I don't consider myself a "Bush Basher" exactly, but the truth is the truth.

Someone accused Bush of being a Christian and I attempted to explain a bit about what a 
Christian should or should not act like.

Don't take my word for what I said.   Google "Bush Twins Drunk" without the quotes and see 
what you get.  Here is only one of them.  http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=678

-----------

As to the other comment about not qualifying to be a deacon.  I hope you can take the Word 
of the Bible if you can't take mine.  1 Timothy 3:1-5 from the Amplified.

  1THE SAYING is true and irrefutable: If any man [eagerly] seeks the office of bishop 
(superintendent, overseer), he desires an excellent task (work).

     2Now a bishop (superintendent, overseer) must give no grounds for accusation but must 
be above reproach, the husband of one wife, circumspect and temperate and self-controlled; 
[he must be] sensible and well behaved and dignified and lead an orderly (disciplined) 
life; [he must be] hospitable [showing love for and being a friend to the believers, 
especially strangers or foreigners, and be] a capable and qualified teacher,

     3Not given to wine, not combative but gentle and considerate, not quarrelsome but 
forbearing and peaceable, and not a lover of money [insatiable for wealth and ready to 
obtain it by questionable means].

     4He must rule his own household well, keeping his children under control, with true 
dignity, commanding their respect in every way and keeping them respectful.

     5For if a man does not know how to rule his own household, how is he to take care of 
the church of God?

I suppose, using the same criteria you seemed to have used then, that had I said murder, 
rape, robbery or homosexuality were wrong you'd accuse me of murder bashing, rapist 
bashing, robber bashing, or homosexual bashing!

---------

As to the "Christian nation" comment.  Look up Public Law 97-280.  There are several 
places you can get info on it, but 
http://scripturesforamerica.org/PDF/congress%20declares%20biblr.pdf gives you a copy of it 
  so you can read it for yourself.

Can't figure some folks out!  :-(

Al
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 15:21:31 -0400   author:   Al Patrick

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
news:NqqdnY4HWqQBc6_VnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@internetofbeaufortcounty...
> Reality_Check© wrote:
>
>>
>> and 4000 more suckers who died meaningless deaths for the criminal Bush 
>> mob's LIES ...
>
>
> Whoever said George W. Bush was a Christian?
>
> A drunk Christian?  He, along with many in Washington, D.C., does have a 
> drinking problem
>

You are so busy responding to your BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) that you 
fail to let facts get in the way of your prejudice
Bush cleaned up his act since he's been with Laura
    But hey, your BDS can be helped. BUT ONLY if you seek medical help


> According to the Bible G.W. would not even make a good deacon.  It says a 
> deacon must rule his own household well, obedient exemplary children, etc. 
> He had two young drunk teens! Of course, he, like Teddy boy, set a fine 
> example in this area.
>

<YAWN>
Same old, same old, BDS
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 15:19:48 -0500   author:   SaPeIsMa

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
news:FbKdnSt0m5Ejua7VnZ2dnUVZ_qjinZ2d@posted.internetofbeaufortcounty...
> Felix D. wrote:
>> "Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
>> news:NqqdnY4HWqQBc6_VnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@internetofbeaufortcounty...
>>> Reality_Check© wrote:
>>>
>>>> and 4000 more suckers who died meaningless deaths for the criminal Bush 
>>>> mob's LIES ...
>>>
>>> Whoever said George W. Bush was a Christian?
>>>
>>> A drunk Christian?  He, along with many in Washington, D.C., does have a 
>>> drinking problem
>>>
>>> According to the Bible G.W. would not even make a good deacon.  It says 
>>> a deacon must rule his own household well, obedient exemplary children, 
>>> etc. He had two young drunk teens! Of course, he, like Teddy boy, set a 
>>> fine example in this area.
>>
>>
>> One of these days you idiots are going to realize W isn't running for 
>> president this time/  Of course, its better for us all if you fools waste 
>> your time doing BushBash since that keeps you from meddling elsewhere.
>
> I don't consider myself a "Bush Basher" exactly, but the truth is the 
> truth.
>

You wouldn't recognize "the truth" if it was sitting on your nose

> Someone accused Bush of being a Christian and I attempted to explain a bit 
> about what a Christian should or should not act like.
>

Yeah right
    And we believe you too..


> Don't take my word for what I said.   Google "Bush Twins Drunk" without 
> the quotes and see what you get.  Here is only one of them. 
> http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=678
>

Try again, moron

They were out of the house and on their own in college, when the wer doing 
what is just about a rite of passage for young people today
Only idiots and liars, or sufferers of BDS (Bush Derangement Syndrome) 
would be stupid enough to claim what you did


> -----------
>
> As to the other comment about not qualifying to be a deacon.  I hope you 
> can take the Word of the Bible if you can't take mine.  1 Timothy 3:1-5 
> from the Amplified.
>

Your word isn't worth shit
So your interpretation is worth about as much


Rest of the bullshit is snipped
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 15:23:02 -0500   author:   SaPeIsMa

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"Felix D." <#1Chekist@OGPU.org> wrote in message 
news:CqudnQViOINni67VnZ2dnUVZ_tvinZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "Al Patrick"  wrote in message 
> news:NqqdnY4HWqQBc6_VnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@internetofbeaufortcounty...
>> Reality_Check© wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> and 4000 more suckers who died meaningless deaths for the criminal Bush 
>>> mob's LIES ...
>>
>>
>> Whoever said George W. Bush was a Christian?
>>
>> A drunk Christian?  He, along with many in Washington, D.C., does have a 
>> drinking problem
>>
>> According to the Bible G.W. would not even make a good deacon.  It says a 
>> deacon must rule his own household well, obedient exemplary children, 
>> etc. He had two young drunk teens! Of course, he, like Teddy boy, set a 
>> fine example in this area.
>
>
> One of these days you idiots are going to realize W isn't running for 
> president this time/  Of course, its better for us all if you fools waste 
> your time doing BushBash since that keeps you from meddling elsewhere.


This from the shitsucking Repugnikkkunts who are still fixated on Clinton's 
cigar ...


>
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 15:27:25 -0600   author:   Reality_Check?

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
In article , Reality@Check.it 
says...
> 
> "tankfixer"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.229a9270a958cf089896cb@nntp.earthlink.net...
> > In article , Reality@Check.it
> > says...
> >
> >
> >> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
> >> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near the school,
> >> his son and wife.
> >
> > Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
> 
> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!

You just can't stay on subject can you ?



-- 

"Oh Norman, listen!  The loons are calling!"
   - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 17:52:11 -0700   author:   tankfixer

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"tankfixer"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.229d121951b2fd95989717@nntp.earthlink.net...
> In article , Reality@Check.it
> says...
>>
>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>> news:MPG.229a9270a958cf089896cb@nntp.earthlink.net...
>> > In article , Reality@Check.it
>> > says...
>> >
>> >
>> >> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
>> >> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near the 
>> >> school,
>> >> his son and wife.
>> >
>> > Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
>>
>> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
>
> You just can't stay on subject can you ?

You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading, eh chump?
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 19:49:31 -0600   author:   Reality_Check?

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
In article , Reality@Check.it 
says...
> 
> "tankfixer"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.229d121951b2fd95989717@nntp.earthlink.net...
> > In article , Reality@Check.it
> > says...
> >>
> >> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.229a9270a958cf089896cb@nntp.earthlink.net...
> >> > In article , Reality@Check.it
> >> > says...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
> >> >> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near the 
> >> >> school,
> >> >> his son and wife.
> >> >
> >> > Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
> >>
> >> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
> >
> > You just can't stay on subject can you ?
> 
> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading, eh chump? 


Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.



-- 

"Oh Norman, listen!  The loons are calling!"
   - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 19:15:47 -0700   author:   tankfixer

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
"tankfixer"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.229d25b3824ece1d989729@nntp.earthlink.net...
> In article , Reality@Check.it
> says...
>>
>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>> news:MPG.229d121951b2fd95989717@nntp.earthlink.net...
>> > In article , Reality@Check.it
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.229a9270a958cf089896cb@nntp.earthlink.net...
>> >> > In article , Reality@Check.it
>> >> > says...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
>> >> >> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near the
>> >> >> school,
>> >> >> his son and wife.
>> >> >
>> >> > Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
>> >>
>> >> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
>> >
>> > You just can't stay on subject can you ?
>>
>> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
>> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading, eh 
>> chump?
>
>
> Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.

Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!

OK Baghdad Bob ... whatever you say ... LOL!
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 20:39:00 -0600   author:   Reality_Check?

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
On Tue, 20 May 2008 20:39:00 -0600, "Reality_Check©" 
wrote:

>
>"tankfixer"  wrote in message 
>news:MPG.229d25b3824ece1d989729@nntp.earthlink.net...
>> In article , Reality@Check.it
>> says...
>>>
>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>> news:MPG.229d121951b2fd95989717@nntp.earthlink.net...
>>> > In article , Reality@Check.it
>>> > says...
>>> >>
>>> >> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>> >> news:MPG.229a9270a958cf089896cb@nntp.earthlink.net...
>>> >> > In article , Reality@Check.it
>>> >> > says...
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
>>> >> >> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near the
>>> >> >> school,
>>> >> >> his son and wife.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
>>> >>
>>> >> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
>>> >
>>> > You just can't stay on subject can you ?
>>>
>>> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
>>> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading, eh 
>>> chump?
>>
>>
>> Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.
>
>Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!
>
>OK Baghdad Bob ... whatever you say ... LOL!

The war was won. The occupation is what George W Bush is working on
losing.
date: Tue, 20 May 2008 21:42:12 -0500   author:   Free Lunch

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
In article , Reality@Check.it 
says...
> 
> "tankfixer"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.229d25b3824ece1d989729@nntp.earthlink.net...
> > In article , Reality@Check.it
> > says...
> >>
> >> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.229d121951b2fd95989717@nntp.earthlink.net...
> >> > In article , Reality@Check.it
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
> >> >> news:MPG.229a9270a958cf089896cb@nntp.earthlink.net...
> >> >> > In article , Reality@Check.it
> >> >> > says...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
> >> >> >> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near the
> >> >> >> school,
> >> >> >> his son and wife.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
> >> >>
> >> >> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
> >> >
> >> > You just can't stay on subject can you ?
> >>
> >> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
> >> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading, eh 
> >> chump?
> >
> >
> > Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.
> 
> Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!
> 
> OK Baghdad Bob ... whatever you say ... LOL!


He was Iraqi.
Where is he now ? 

-- 

"Oh Norman, listen!  The loons are calling!"
   - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
date: Wed, 21 May 2008 07:33:56 -0700   author:   tankfixer

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
tankfixer wrote:
> In article , Reality@Check.it
> says...
>>
>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>> news:MPG.229d25b3824ece1d989729@nntp.earthlink.net...
>>> In article , Reality@Check.it
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>> news:MPG.229d121951b2fd95989717@nntp.earthlink.net...
>>>>> In article , Reality@Check.it
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>>>> news:MPG.229a9270a958cf089896cb@nntp.earthlink.net...
>>>>>>> In article ,
>>>>>>> Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
>>>>>>>> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near
>>>>>>>> the school,
>>>>>>>> his son and wife.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> You just can't stay on subject can you ?
>>>>
>>>> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
>>>> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading, eh
>>>> chump?
>>>
>>>
>>> Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.
>>
>> Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!
>>
>> OK Baghdad Bob ... whatever you say ... LOL!
>
>
> He was Iraqi.
> Where is he now ?

Tillman was an Amerikkkan.
Where is he now?

ROTFLMAO !!!
date: Thu, 22 May 2008 08:08:59 -0600   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
In article , theprof@jonez.net 
says...
> tankfixer wrote:
> > In article , Reality@Check.it
> > says...
> >>
> >> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.229d25b3824ece1d989729@nntp.earthlink.net...
> >>> In article , Reality@Check.it
> >>> says...
> >>>>
> >>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
> >>>> news:MPG.229d121951b2fd95989717@nntp.earthlink.net...
> >>>>> In article , Reality@Check.it
> >>>>> says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
> >>>>>> news:MPG.229a9270a958cf089896cb@nntp.earthlink.net...
> >>>>>>> In article ,
> >>>>>>> Reality@Check.it says...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
> >>>>>>>> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near
> >>>>>>>> the school,
> >>>>>>>> his son and wife.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You just can't stay on subject can you ?
> >>>>
> >>>> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
> >>>> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading, eh
> >>>> chump?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.
> >>
> >> Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!
> >>
> >> OK Baghdad Bob ... whatever you say ... LOL!
> >
> >
> > He was Iraqi.
> > Where is he now ?
> 
> Tillman was an Amerikkkan.

Typical of a leftist to change the subject.

> Where is he now?
> 
> ROTFLMAO !!!


And so typical of a leftist to revel in the misery of others.
-- 

"Oh Norman, listen!  The loons are calling!"
   - Katherine Hepburn, "On Golden Pond"
date: Thu, 22 May 2008 17:49:16 -0700   author:   tankfixer

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
tankfixer wrote:
> theprof@jonez.net says...
>> tankfixer wrote:
>>> Reality@Check.it says...
>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>>> Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
>>>>>>>>>> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near
>>>>>>>>>> the school,
>>>>>>>>>> his son and wife.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You just can't stay on subject can you ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
>>>>>> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading,
>>>>>> eh chump?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.
>>>>
>>>> Bwahahahaaaaaaaaaaa!
>>>>
>>>> OK Baghdad Bob ... whatever you say ... LOL!
>>>
>>>
>>> He was Iraqi.
>>> Where is he now ?
>>
>> Tillman was an Amerikkkan.
>
> Typical of a leftist to change the subject.

Typical of the reichtards to deny their own disasters.

>
>> Where is he now?
>>
>> ROTFLMAO !!!
>
>
> And so typical of a leftist to revel in the misery of others.

So typical of the Repugnikkkunts to cause the misery and suffering of others.
date: Fri, 23 May 2008 13:03:38 -0600   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
Kevin O'Connell wrote:
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:15:47 -0700, tankfixer
>  wrote:
>> In article Reality@Check.it says...
>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>> In article , Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>>>>  Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
>>>>>>> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near
>>>>>>> the school,
>>>>>>> his son and wife.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
>>>>>
>>>>> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
>>>>
>>>> You just can't stay on subject can you ?
>>>
>>> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
>>> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading, eh
>>> chump?
>>
>>
>> Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.
>
>
> The U.S. hasn't won a war since 1945 and they were damn lucky to win
> that.  Had the Japs looked ahead just a bit further, they would have
> beaten us too.

Had the weather not turned on Hitler in Stalingrad, and Russia valiantly
sacrificed 20,000,000 lives successfully fighting off the Nazis, the incompetent
Americunts would all be wearing lederhosen and goose-stepping for inspection
to Viceroy Reichsmarschall  Schwarzenegger .
date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:27:35 -0600   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
tankfixer wrote:
> KevinO'Connell@sdsu.edu says...
>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:15:47 -0700, tankfixer
>>  wrote:
>>> In Reality@Check.it says...
>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>>> Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>>>>> Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
>>>>>>>> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near
>>>>>>>> the school,
>>>>>>>> his son and wife.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>> You just can't stay on subject can you ?
>>>>
>>>> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
>>>> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading,
>>>> eh chump?
>>>
>>>
>>> Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.
>>
>>
>> The U.S. hasn't won a war since 1945 and they were damn lucky to win
>> that.  Had the Japs looked ahead just a bit further, they would have
>> beaten us too.
>
>
> Had Japan listened to her a certain admiral she would never have
> embarked on the war in the first place.
>
> He told them in 1941 and it turns out he was very correct.

"We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our 
coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into 
a latter-day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a 
securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an 
unwinnable urban guerrilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into 
ever greater instability."
              -- George H. W. Bush 2001
date: Tue, 27 May 2008 18:29:59 -0600   author:   _ Prof. Jonez _

Re: => Christian Man Opens Fire on Church Festival <= American Gun MADNESS!   
On Tue, 27 May 2008 18:29:59 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
 wrote:

>tankfixer wrote:
>> KevinO'Connell@sdsu.edu says...
>>> On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:15:47 -0700, tankfixer
>>>  wrote:
>>>> In Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>>>> Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>>>> "tankfixer"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>> Reality@Check.it says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Diaz was on parole for an unspecified crime, and a
>>>>>>>>> restraining order was in place to prevent him from being near
>>>>>>>>> the school,
>>>>>>>>> his son and wife.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another failure of the "rehabilitation" system
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Iraq ... another failure of the U$ Military ... LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You just can't stay on subject can you ?
>>>>>
>>>>> You just can win a war, can you loser? Even when it's a far
>>>>> smaller, weaker and poorer nation you're attacking and invading,
>>>>> eh chump?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Guess you missed it but the war was won long ago.
>>>
>>>
>>> The U.S. hasn't won a war since 1945 and they were damn lucky to win
>>> that.  Had the Japs looked ahead just a bit further, they would have
>>> beaten us too.
>>
>>
>> Had Japan listened to her a certain admiral she would never have
>> embarked on the war in the first place.
>>
>> He told them in 1941 and it turns out he was very correct.
>
>"We should not march into Baghdad. To occupy Iraq would instantly shatter our 
>coalition, turning the whole Arab world against us and make a broken tyrant into 
>a latter-day Arab hero. Assigning young soldiers to a fruitless hunt for a 
>securely entrenched dictator and condemning them to fight in what would be an 
>unwinnable urban guerrilla war, it could only plunge that part of the world into 
>ever greater instability."
>              -- George H. W. Bush 2001 

Of course W has gone through life proving that he can screw anything up
worse than his dad ever could.
date: Tue, 27 May 2008 19:53:03 -0500   author:   Free Lunch

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