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date: Sat, 10 May 2008 09:22:51 -0700,
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
wrote:
>
>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>news:gthb2457ulichurej3pqnsh8cu1c3thtam@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>news:7egb24tjmu9b20a4log6bvdp6cm461qik4@4ax.com...
>>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>>>news:c6db24hips4bq1md8uj4hqbtj5j586lc43@4ax.com...
>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com (XXX) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Buck Mulligan wrote:
>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com (XXX) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >Bama Brian wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> XXX wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> > "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:
>>>>>>>> >> >> Boy, 5, Shoots Little Sister After Fight
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> May 9, 2008, 1:55 PM PDT
>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>> >> >> Indianapolis -- A man whose 5-year-old son accidentally shot
>>>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>>>> >> >> killed his sister was arrested at the cemetery before the
>>>>>>>> >> >> little
>>>>>>>> >> >> girl's burial.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This child did NOT accidentally 'shoot and kill his sister'. He
>>>>>purposefully retrieved the gun *to* shoot his sister after a
>>>>>*disagreement*.
>>>>>I'd say this child is very troubled to say the least, and will continue
>>>>>to
>>>>>be a danger to others as he grows. Especially if he is returned to the
>>>>>envirnoment in which he was raised.
>>>>
>>>> Funny how you know exactly what took place. Were you there? I'm going
>>>> by the news article quoted above. Note the word "accidentally."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>IMO, an *accident* is when a gun goes off, without purpose or intent.
>>>When
>>>someone retrieves a firearm, aims and shoots it at another with purposeful
>>>*intent*, I'd hardly call that an *accident*. Would you?
>>
>>
>> It doesn't really matter what you think. The police investigated the
>> incident, and said "accident."
>>
>> You can wish it to be murder if it makes you feel better, though. And
>> strangely enough, I'll bet it does make you feel better.
>
>
>If you are arguing from a pro gun ownership stance, are you too dim to
>realize calling this an *accident* hurts your position?
Um, if you will recall, the police said it was an accident. I don't
have access to any more information about it that you do. So I have no
reason to believe it's anything but an accident.
>I should preface this by saying I own guns, I can put six shots through the
>heart with my .357 at 25 ft. I am not a 'gun nut' nor the opposite.
Yeah, uh-huh, sure. That has *SO* much bearing on this discussion.
> But I
>do find it highly offensive to be lumped into a group with irresponsible
>owners such as this father and the drunken pot-head who mistook his 8 yr.
>old child for a turkey.
You can fight reality all you want. Believe what you want to believe.
I'll stick with the facts on hand.
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 09:22:51 -0700
author: Buck Mulligan
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
news:hqib24pqenp7cbsh8nfq1aiplcl4kjmg9e@4ax.com...
> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>news:gthb2457ulichurej3pqnsh8cu1c3thtam@4ax.com...
>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>>news:7egb24tjmu9b20a4log6bvdp6cm461qik4@4ax.com...
>>>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:c6db24hips4bq1md8uj4hqbtj5j586lc43@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com (XXX) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Buck Mulligan wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com (XXX) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >Bama Brian wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> XXX wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> > "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >> >> Boy, 5, Shoots Little Sister After Fight
>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> May 9, 2008, 1:55 PM PDT
>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>> >> >> Indianapolis -- A man whose 5-year-old son accidentally
>>>>>>>>> >> >> shot
>>>>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>>>>> >> >> killed his sister was arrested at the cemetery before the
>>>>>>>>> >> >> little
>>>>>>>>> >> >> girl's burial.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This child did NOT accidentally 'shoot and kill his sister'. He
>>>>>>purposefully retrieved the gun *to* shoot his sister after a
>>>>>>*disagreement*.
>>>>>>I'd say this child is very troubled to say the least, and will
>>>>>>continue
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>be a danger to others as he grows. Especially if he is returned to
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>envirnoment in which he was raised.
>>>>>
>>>>> Funny how you know exactly what took place. Were you there? I'm going
>>>>> by the news article quoted above. Note the word "accidentally."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>IMO, an *accident* is when a gun goes off, without purpose or intent.
>>>>When
>>>>someone retrieves a firearm, aims and shoots it at another with
>>>>purposeful
>>>>*intent*, I'd hardly call that an *accident*. Would you?
>>>
>>>
>>> It doesn't really matter what you think. The police investigated the
>>> incident, and said "accident."
>>>
>>> You can wish it to be murder if it makes you feel better, though. And
>>> strangely enough, I'll bet it does make you feel better.
>>
>>
>>If you are arguing from a pro gun ownership stance, are you too dim to
>>realize calling this an *accident* hurts your position?
>
> Um, if you will recall, the police said it was an accident. I don't
> have access to any more information about it that you do. So I have no
> reason to believe it's anything but an accident.
>
>>I should preface this by saying I own guns, I can put six shots through
>>the
>>heart with my .357 at 25 ft. I am not a 'gun nut' nor the opposite.
>
> Yeah, uh-huh, sure. That has *SO* much bearing on this discussion.
>
>> But I
>>do find it highly offensive to be lumped into a group with irresponsible
>>owners such as this father and the drunken pot-head who mistook his 8 yr.
>>old child for a turkey.
>
> You can fight reality all you want. Believe what you want to believe.
> I'll stick with the facts on hand.
Yup, as I thought, too dim.
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:25:24 -0400
author: tiny dancer
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
wrote:
>
>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>news:hqib24pqenp7cbsh8nfq1aiplcl4kjmg9e@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>news:gthb2457ulichurej3pqnsh8cu1c3thtam@4ax.com...
>>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>>>news:7egb24tjmu9b20a4log6bvdp6cm461qik4@4ax.com...
>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:c6db24hips4bq1md8uj4hqbtj5j586lc43@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com (XXX) wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Buck Mulligan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com (XXX) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> >Bama Brian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> XXX wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> > "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Boy, 5, Shoots Little Sister After Fight
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> May 9, 2008, 1:55 PM PDT
>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Indianapolis -- A man whose 5-year-old son accidentally
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> shot
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> killed his sister was arrested at the cemetery before the
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> little
>>>>>>>>>> >> >> girl's burial.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This child did NOT accidentally 'shoot and kill his sister'. He
>>>>>>>purposefully retrieved the gun *to* shoot his sister after a
>>>>>>>*disagreement*.
>>>>>>>I'd say this child is very troubled to say the least, and will
>>>>>>>continue
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>be a danger to others as he grows. Especially if he is returned to
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>envirnoment in which he was raised.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny how you know exactly what took place. Were you there? I'm going
>>>>>> by the news article quoted above. Note the word "accidentally."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>IMO, an *accident* is when a gun goes off, without purpose or intent.
>>>>>When
>>>>>someone retrieves a firearm, aims and shoots it at another with
>>>>>purposeful
>>>>>*intent*, I'd hardly call that an *accident*. Would you?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It doesn't really matter what you think. The police investigated the
>>>> incident, and said "accident."
>>>>
>>>> You can wish it to be murder if it makes you feel better, though. And
>>>> strangely enough, I'll bet it does make you feel better.
>>>
>>>
>>>If you are arguing from a pro gun ownership stance, are you too dim to
>>>realize calling this an *accident* hurts your position?
>>
>> Um, if you will recall, the police said it was an accident. I don't
>> have access to any more information about it that you do. So I have no
>> reason to believe it's anything but an accident.
>>
>>>I should preface this by saying I own guns, I can put six shots through
>>>the
>>>heart with my .357 at 25 ft. I am not a 'gun nut' nor the opposite.
>>
>> Yeah, uh-huh, sure. That has *SO* much bearing on this discussion.
>>
>>> But I
>>>do find it highly offensive to be lumped into a group with irresponsible
>>>owners such as this father and the drunken pot-head who mistook his 8 yr.
>>>old child for a turkey.
>>
>> You can fight reality all you want. Believe what you want to believe.
>> I'll stick with the facts on hand.
>
>Yup, as I thought, too dim.
>
Explain: You're too dim to realize that the police- with access to
more information than you'll ever possibly have- have made an educated
and informed decision, or you're too dim to realize that you've made a
fool of yourself by making a decision based on what the neighbors
think?
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 09:31:07 -0700
author: Buck Mulligan
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
news:v8jb24pmg1ue869i0fej4lbkv1i96n3a09@4ax.com...
> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>news:hqib24pqenp7cbsh8nfq1aiplcl4kjmg9e@4ax.com...
>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>>news:gthb2457ulichurej3pqnsh8cu1c3thtam@4ax.com...
>>>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>>>>news:7egb24tjmu9b20a4log6bvdp6cm461qik4@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:c6db24hips4bq1md8uj4hqbtj5j586lc43@4ax.com...
>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com (XXX) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Buck Mulligan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In talk.politics.guns xxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com (XXX) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> >Bama Brian wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> XXX wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> > "_ Prof. Jonez _" wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Boy, 5, Shoots Little Sister After Fight
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> May 9, 2008, 1:55 PM PDT
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> Indianapolis -- A man whose 5-year-old son accidentally
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> shot
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> and
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> killed his sister was arrested at the cemetery before the
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> little
>>>>>>>>>>> >> >> girl's burial.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>This child did NOT accidentally 'shoot and kill his sister'. He
>>>>>>>>purposefully retrieved the gun *to* shoot his sister after a
>>>>>>>>*disagreement*.
>>>>>>>>I'd say this child is very troubled to say the least, and will
>>>>>>>>continue
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>be a danger to others as he grows. Especially if he is returned to
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>envirnoment in which he was raised.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Funny how you know exactly what took place. Were you there? I'm
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> by the news article quoted above. Note the word "accidentally."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>IMO, an *accident* is when a gun goes off, without purpose or intent.
>>>>>>When
>>>>>>someone retrieves a firearm, aims and shoots it at another with
>>>>>>purposeful
>>>>>>*intent*, I'd hardly call that an *accident*. Would you?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't really matter what you think. The police investigated the
>>>>> incident, and said "accident."
>>>>>
>>>>> You can wish it to be murder if it makes you feel better, though. And
>>>>> strangely enough, I'll bet it does make you feel better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>If you are arguing from a pro gun ownership stance, are you too dim to
>>>>realize calling this an *accident* hurts your position?
>>>
>>> Um, if you will recall, the police said it was an accident. I don't
>>> have access to any more information about it that you do. So I have no
>>> reason to believe it's anything but an accident.
>>>
>>>>I should preface this by saying I own guns, I can put six shots through
>>>>the
>>>>heart with my .357 at 25 ft. I am not a 'gun nut' nor the opposite.
>>>
>>> Yeah, uh-huh, sure. That has *SO* much bearing on this discussion.
>>>
>>>> But I
>>>>do find it highly offensive to be lumped into a group with irresponsible
>>>>owners such as this father and the drunken pot-head who mistook his 8
>>>>yr.
>>>>old child for a turkey.
>>>
>>> You can fight reality all you want. Believe what you want to believe.
>>> I'll stick with the facts on hand.
>>
>>Yup, as I thought, too dim.
>>
>
> Explain: You're too dim to realize that the police- with access to
> more information than you'll ever possibly have- have made an educated
> and informed decision, or you're too dim to realize that you've made a
> fool of yourself by making a decision based on what the neighbors
> think?
If I'm not mistaken, this was the same *rant* used about the turkey hunter
who shot his own child.
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:40:41 -0400
author: tiny dancer
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
wrote:
>If I'm not mistaken, this was the same *rant* used about the turkey hunter
>who shot his own child.
>
Can't deal with the discussion at hand, eh?
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 11:43:13 -0700
author: Buck Mulligan
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
news:b5rb245kr99v1cdpon3fsvs36j6onn8k21@4ax.com...
> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
> wrote:
>
>>If I'm not mistaken, this was the same *rant* used about the turkey hunter
>>who shot his own child.
>>
>
> Can't deal with the discussion at hand, eh?
this really passes for *discussion* on your group. If so, I'd say 'gun
loons' is an apt description then.
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 14:48:19 -0400
author: tiny dancer
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
wrote:
>
>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>news:b5rb245kr99v1cdpon3fsvs36j6onn8k21@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>If I'm not mistaken, this was the same *rant* used about the turkey hunter
>>>who shot his own child.
>>>
>>
>> Can't deal with the discussion at hand, eh?
>
>
>this really passes for *discussion* on your group.
Whatever you want to call it, it's plain you can't deal with it.
[chuckle] Why are you here, then? Just to get slapped around?
> If so, I'd say 'gun
>loons' is an apt description then.
Your hate speech doesn't bother me.
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 12:31:27 -0700
author: Buck Mulligan
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
news:uutb2457dgkkivpac1sjikhtmgur0ef7kv@4ax.com...
> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>news:b5rb245kr99v1cdpon3fsvs36j6onn8k21@4ax.com...
>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If I'm not mistaken, this was the same *rant* used about the turkey
>>>>hunter
>>>>who shot his own child.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can't deal with the discussion at hand, eh?
>>
>>
>>this really passes for *discussion* on your group.
>
> Whatever you want to call it, it's plain you can't deal with it.
LOL. Name calling and ranting. What the average age of posters over there,
junior high?
> [chuckle] Why are you here, then?
Here where? You crossed posted to HERE. Can't deal with logic, 'eh? Gun
loons is right.
Just to get slapped around?
This passes for slapping around? Pikers.
>
>> If so, I'd say 'gun
>>loons' is an apt description then.
>
> Your hate speech doesn't bother me.
Hate speech? I haven't come close to 'hate speech'.
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 15:51:10 -0400
author: tiny dancer
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
wrote:
>
>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>news:uutb2457dgkkivpac1sjikhtmgur0ef7kv@4ax.com...
>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>>news:b5rb245kr99v1cdpon3fsvs36j6onn8k21@4ax.com...
>>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>If I'm not mistaken, this was the same *rant* used about the turkey
>>>>>hunter
>>>>>who shot his own child.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can't deal with the discussion at hand, eh?
>>>
>>>
>>>this really passes for *discussion* on your group.
>>
>> Whatever you want to call it, it's plain you can't deal with it.
>
>
>LOL. Name calling and ranting.
Your just pegged my hypocrisy meter.
>What the average age of posters over there,
>junior high?
I'm sure yours drops the average considerably.
>> [chuckle] Why are you here, then?
>
>
>Here where? You crossed posted to HERE.
Uh, I'm talking about usenet, "loon." Just get your free AOL disk?
> Just to get slapped around?
>This passes for slapping around? Pikers.
You didn't put much effort into your logic, either.
>>> If so, I'd say 'gun
>>>loons' is an apt description then.
>>
>> Your hate speech doesn't bother me.
>Hate speech? I haven't come close to 'hate speech'.
Of course not. LOL You people can _always_ find a way to justify it.
date: Sat, 10 May 2008 13:02:45 -0700
author: Buck Mulligan
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Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots, Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!
On , , Sat, 10 May 2008 12:31:27 -0700, Re: => Boy, 5, Shoots,
Kills Little Sister After Fight <= American Gun MADNESS!!, Buck
Mulligan wrote:
>In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Buck Mulligan" wrote in message
>>news:b5rb245kr99v1cdpon3fsvs36j6onn8k21@4ax.com...
>>> In talk.politics.guns "tiny dancer"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If I'm not mistaken, this was the same *rant* used about the turkey hunter
>>>>who shot his own child.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can't deal with the discussion at hand, eh?
>>
>>
>>this really passes for *discussion* on your group.
>
>Whatever you want to call it, it's plain you can't deal with it.
>[chuckle] Why are you here, then? Just to get slapped around?
Some microcephalic (the list of suspects includes you)
crossposted it to alt.true-crime. That's why we are forced to put
up with clowns and cretins who have nothing new to say.
>
>> If so, I'd say 'gun
>>loons' is an apt description then.
>
>Your hate speech doesn't bother me.
"Hate speech"? You must have lived your entire life wrapped in
cotton wool behind the couch if you consider that to be hate
speech.
--
"Wait now, leixlip! I scent eggoarchicism. I will take
you to task. I don't follow you that far in your otherwise
accurate account. Was it esox lucius or salmo ferax? You
are taxing us into the driven future, are you not, with
this ruttymaid fishery?"
FW
date: Tue, 13 May 2008 16:26:25 +1200
author: H.C.E
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