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date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:43:13 -0800,
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Re: Gun Control: Gun crime soars in the U.K
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:02:02 GMT, "Blinky Bill"
wrote:
>
>"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:Xns9A366EE29647ASandman@216.196.97.136...
>> Gunner wrote in
>> news:sep0q39jiqg0k1lulkln6nbt52lrqnamcv@4ax.com:
>>
>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:53:24 GMT, "Blinky Bill"
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please provide citations to back up your claim that crime didnt drop
>>>>> in CCW states.
>>>>
>>>>Alabama - introduced CCW 1977. In 1976 violent crime rate was 388.8.
>>>>The rate has never been below 400 in the 30 years since CCW - it
>>>>peaked at 871.7 in 1992 (FBI UCR)
>>>
>>> Please provide links
>>> Gunner
>>
>> Here is the UCR on Alabama from
>>
>>
>> Violent crime
>> Violent Crime rate Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter rate Forcible
>> rape rate Robbery rate Aggravated assault rate
>>
>> Violent Murder Aggravated
>> Crime Non Neg Rape Robbery Assault
>> Year Pop Rate Manslau Rate Rate Rate
>>
>> 1960 3,266,740 186.6 12.4 8.6 27.5 138.1
>> 1961 3,302,000 168.5 12.9 7.6 19.1 128.9
>> 1962 3,358,000 157.3 9.4 6.5 22.5 119.0
>> 1963 3,347,000 182.7 10.2 5.7 24.7 142.1
>> 1964 3,407,000 213.1 9.3 11.7 29.1 163.0
>> 1965 3,462,000 199.8 11.4 10.6 28.7 149.1
>> 1966 3,517,000 230.3 10.9 9.7 32.0 177.7
>> 1967 3,540,000 238.6 11.7 10.5 33.0 183.5
>> 1968 3,566,000 232.4 11.8 11.1 41.0 168.5
>> 1969 3,531,000 250.4 13.7 14.0 41.0 181.7
>> 1970 3,444,165 295.7 11.7 18.5 50.3 215.2
>> 1971 3,479,000 311.4 15.1 19.0 57.6 219.7
>> 1972 3,510,000 313.2 14.1 18.8 68.6 211.7
>> 1973 3,539,000 350.1 13.2 21.2 79.4 236.3
>> 1974 3,577,000 372.9 15.0 22.7 99.6 235.6
>> 1975 3,614,000 392.9 16.0 20.4 123.0 233.5
>> 1976 3,665,000 388.8 15.1 21.7 96.0 256.0
>> 1977 3,690,000 414.4 14.2 25.2 96.8 278.3
>> 1978 3,742,000 419.1 13.3 25.5 99.1 281.2
>> 1979 3,769,000 413.3 13.2 27.5 109.5 263.1
>> 1980 3,861,466 448.5 13.2 30.0 132.1 273.2
>> 1981 3,916,000 470.5 11.9 26.1 126.5 306.1
>> 1982 3,943,000 447.7 10.6 26.0 112.0 299.1
>> 1983 3,959,000 416.0 9.2 23.5 98.4 284.9
>> 1984 3,990,000 431.2 9.4 25.1 96.1 300.6
>> 1985 4,021,000 457.5 9.8 26.8 105.4 315.5
>> 1986 4,053,000 558.0 10.1 28.4 111.6 407.9
>> 1987 4,083,000 559.2 9.3 27.8 112.2 409.9
>> 1988 4,127,000 558.6 9.9 29.8 117.8 401.2
>> 1989 4,118,000 590.8 10.2 31.0 133.9 415.7
>> 1990 4,040,587 708.6 11.6 32.6 143.7 520.7
>> 1991 4,089,000 844.2 11.5 35.6 152.8 644.4
>> 1992 4,136,000 871.7 11.0 41.2 164.9 654.6
>> 1993 4,187,000 780.4 11.6 35.1 159.5 574.3
>> 1994 4,219,000 683.7 11.9 35.2 171.2 465.3
>> 1995 4,253,000 632.4 11.2 31.7 185.8 403.7
>> 1996 4,273,000 565.4 10.0 33.0 167.0 356.0
>> 1997 4,319,000 564.5 9.9 32.3 160.5 361.8
>> 1998 4,352,000 512.1 8.1 33.2 130.9 339.9
>> 1999 4,370,000 490.2 7.9 34.6 121.2 326.5
>> 2000 4,447,100 486.2 7.4 33.3 128.2 317.2
>> 2001 4,464,356 438.6 8.5 30.7 125.1 274.4
>> 2002 4,478,896 445.0 6.8 37.2 133.1 268.0
>> 2003 4,503,726 429.2 6.6 36.8 134.1 251.7
>> 2004 4,525,375 427.0 5.6 38.5 133.5 249.4
>> 2005 4,557,808 431.7 8.2 34.3 141.4 247.8
>> 2006 4,599,030 425.2 8.3 35.9 153.5 227.6
>
>I rely on Lott and Mustard for the date CCW was introduced. The numbers
>support my claim and totally disprove the lie from shitlips Gunner that
>violent crime fell in every state that introduced CCW.
>
So you are claiming that the population remained the same size?
Gunner
date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:43:13 -0800
author: Gunner
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Re: Gun Control: Gun crime soars in the U.K
"Gunner" wrote in message
news:mp85q3dkqikattuvhb9mdmc0aqvj2b4b15@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:02:02 GMT, "Blinky Bill"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"RD (The Sandman)" <rdsandman(spamlock)@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:Xns9A366EE29647ASandman@216.196.97.136...
>>> Gunner wrote in
>>> news:sep0q39jiqg0k1lulkln6nbt52lrqnamcv@4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 00:53:24 GMT, "Blinky Bill"
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please provide citations to back up your claim that crime didnt drop
>>>>>> in CCW states.
>>>>>
>>>>>Alabama - introduced CCW 1977. In 1976 violent crime rate was 388.8.
>>>>>The rate has never been below 400 in the 30 years since CCW - it
>>>>>peaked at 871.7 in 1992 (FBI UCR)
>>>>
>>>> Please provide links
>>>> Gunner
>>>
>>> Here is the UCR on Alabama from
>>>
>>>
>>> Violent crime
>>> Violent Crime rate Murder and nonnegligent manslaughter rate Forcible
>>> rape rate Robbery rate Aggravated assault rate
>>>
>>> Violent Murder Aggravated
>>> Crime Non Neg Rape Robbery Assault
>>> Year Pop Rate Manslau Rate Rate Rate
>>>
>>> 1960 3,266,740 186.6 12.4 8.6 27.5 138.1
>>> 1961 3,302,000 168.5 12.9 7.6 19.1 128.9
>>> 1962 3,358,000 157.3 9.4 6.5 22.5 119.0
>>> 1963 3,347,000 182.7 10.2 5.7 24.7 142.1
>>> 1964 3,407,000 213.1 9.3 11.7 29.1 163.0
>>> 1965 3,462,000 199.8 11.4 10.6 28.7 149.1
>>> 1966 3,517,000 230.3 10.9 9.7 32.0 177.7
>>> 1967 3,540,000 238.6 11.7 10.5 33.0 183.5
>>> 1968 3,566,000 232.4 11.8 11.1 41.0 168.5
>>> 1969 3,531,000 250.4 13.7 14.0 41.0 181.7
>>> 1970 3,444,165 295.7 11.7 18.5 50.3 215.2
>>> 1971 3,479,000 311.4 15.1 19.0 57.6 219.7
>>> 1972 3,510,000 313.2 14.1 18.8 68.6 211.7
>>> 1973 3,539,000 350.1 13.2 21.2 79.4 236.3
>>> 1974 3,577,000 372.9 15.0 22.7 99.6 235.6
>>> 1975 3,614,000 392.9 16.0 20.4 123.0 233.5
>>> 1976 3,665,000 388.8 15.1 21.7 96.0 256.0
>>> 1977 3,690,000 414.4 14.2 25.2 96.8 278.3
>>> 1978 3,742,000 419.1 13.3 25.5 99.1 281.2
>>> 1979 3,769,000 413.3 13.2 27.5 109.5 263.1
>>> 1980 3,861,466 448.5 13.2 30.0 132.1 273.2
>>> 1981 3,916,000 470.5 11.9 26.1 126.5 306.1
>>> 1982 3,943,000 447.7 10.6 26.0 112.0 299.1
>>> 1983 3,959,000 416.0 9.2 23.5 98.4 284.9
>>> 1984 3,990,000 431.2 9.4 25.1 96.1 300.6
>>> 1985 4,021,000 457.5 9.8 26.8 105.4 315.5
>>> 1986 4,053,000 558.0 10.1 28.4 111.6 407.9
>>> 1987 4,083,000 559.2 9.3 27.8 112.2 409.9
>>> 1988 4,127,000 558.6 9.9 29.8 117.8 401.2
>>> 1989 4,118,000 590.8 10.2 31.0 133.9 415.7
>>> 1990 4,040,587 708.6 11.6 32.6 143.7 520.7
>>> 1991 4,089,000 844.2 11.5 35.6 152.8 644.4
>>> 1992 4,136,000 871.7 11.0 41.2 164.9 654.6
>>> 1993 4,187,000 780.4 11.6 35.1 159.5 574.3
>>> 1994 4,219,000 683.7 11.9 35.2 171.2 465.3
>>> 1995 4,253,000 632.4 11.2 31.7 185.8 403.7
>>> 1996 4,273,000 565.4 10.0 33.0 167.0 356.0
>>> 1997 4,319,000 564.5 9.9 32.3 160.5 361.8
>>> 1998 4,352,000 512.1 8.1 33.2 130.9 339.9
>>> 1999 4,370,000 490.2 7.9 34.6 121.2 326.5
>>> 2000 4,447,100 486.2 7.4 33.3 128.2 317.2
>>> 2001 4,464,356 438.6 8.5 30.7 125.1 274.4
>>> 2002 4,478,896 445.0 6.8 37.2 133.1 268.0
>>> 2003 4,503,726 429.2 6.6 36.8 134.1 251.7
>>> 2004 4,525,375 427.0 5.6 38.5 133.5 249.4
>>> 2005 4,557,808 431.7 8.2 34.3 141.4 247.8
>>> 2006 4,599,030 425.2 8.3 35.9 153.5 227.6
>>
>>I rely on Lott and Mustard for the date CCW was introduced. The numbers
>>support my claim and totally disprove the lie from shitlips Gunner that
>>violent crime fell in every state that introduced CCW.
>>
> So you are claiming that the population remained the same size?
Don't be stupid - what do you think the crime rate is?
>
> Gunner
date: Sat, 02 Feb 2008 01:06:40 GMT
author: Blinky Bill
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