I didn't notice David Walters' messages asking me to stop posting to
alt.politics.socialism.trotsky until after I sent the last message. I
think he was getting particularly exasperated with me due to me
undermining global warming theory, which could (if such theories are
accurate enough) put the future of the world at risk. With such a lot
at stake, the irritation crossposting another message could cause him
is surely outweighed by balancing out my earlier comments with the
following (in reply to a message on sci.phyiscs et al):

On 16 Aug, 22:30, "Mike Jr."  wrote:
> On Aug 16, 9:44 am, Steve Wallis wrote:
> > On 15 Aug, 01:17, "Mike Jr."  wrote:
> > >http://www.weatherquestions.com/Roy-Spencer-on-global-warming.htm
>
> > That's a very interesting and persuasive page giving counter-arguments
> > to global warming theory.
>
>  > Have advocates of that theory critiqued Roy Spencer's arguments?
>
> Yes.  For example, see here:http://tamino.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/spencers-folly/
>
> I have read through this but I don't find their arguments persuasive.
>
> The relative humidity of the atmosphere is not 100%.  Yet the oceans
> are a vast reservoir of water.  Why isn't the atmosphere saturated?

I have to confess that I am out of my depth with all those equations.
Maybe I should bow out of this debate and leave the discussion to
those who understand the physics. On the other hand, scientists have
got to justify their arguments in ways that the general public can
understand. With last week's New Scientist main story being about
scientists predicting cooling over some if not all of the next ten
years (see http://www.revolutionaryplatform.net/forum/index.php?topic=10244),
it is going to be particularly difficult for those who agree with
global warming theory to persuade the rest of us that massive action
on CO2 emissions is vital for the future of humanity. And without mass
pressure from the general public, politicians are likely to take
little if no action.

As I've stated in previous messages, I differ from most sceptics of
global warming theory in being a strong advocate of renewable forms of
energy - and would even welcome nuclear power if a cheap safe non-
polluting version was possible (as those using thorium may perhaps
be). The earth's resources are running out (including uranium) and, if
such forms of power can be used at a similar cost, it makes sense to
adopt them. I cannot be completely sure that catastrophic global
warming wouldn't happen, and even if I was sure, persuading most
fellow environmentalists and socialists of that would be well nigh
impossible.

I do have something to offer scientists on both sides of the global
warming debate, however. I was the main designer and sole developer of
an AI/simulation language SDML (which stands for Strictly Declarative
Modelling Language) based on logic - without exceptions that break the
logic, unlike with the main logic programming language Prolog. I
intend to publish a new version of it soon, as open source Smalltalk
code so others are more likely to trust it, on the website www.sdml.org.uk.
For more information in the meantime, visit www.socialiststeve.me.uk/sdml.htm.

As I've pointed out, there are conflicting graphs showing temperatures
between 1950 and the 1970s showing temperatures falling a lot, falling
moderately, staying much the same or rising. If the code used to
produce such graphs from the raw data was written in a logical
language and published so that others can have more faith in the
accuracy of such graphs, then it could help us come to some sort of
consensus. In an earlier message, Mike Jr said "Note that only the UAH
scientists calibrated their satellite data to data collected by
weather balloons." I'd like to set the ball rolling (which means "get
us started" for those who don't understand that English slang
phrase!), by comparing the data of those scientists (including Roy
Spencer) with the weather balloon data - if anybody can direct me to
it (if it can be explained to me in terms I understand). [Mike
directed me to a website with a lot of public data on (go to
http://tamino.wordpress.com/climate-data-links) but weather balloon
data doesn't seem to be there]. It might be asking a lot to expect
climate modellers to recode their models (or develop new models) in
SDML, then that would be ideal (if my language is fast enough)...

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