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date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:18:00 -0400,
group: uk.politics.environment
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Re: Global dimming and ice age predictions after WW2 contradict global warming theory
Steve Wallis wrote:
>I've also posted the following comment to
>http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
>(on "Solar activity & climate: is the sun causing global warming?"):
>
>
>I forgot to mention in the above comment that the whole argument that
>the sun is not to blame is based on data/graphs that may be
>fabricated.
>
>There are massive vested interests, on both sides of the global
>warming debate, so fabrication of data is to be expected.
>
>Bearing in mind that one set of data for cooling during the post-war
>boom (despite higher production of carbon dioxide than earlier in the
>20th century when temperatures were rising) is incorrect and clearly
>fabricated, the same may be true of recent solar radiance data.
Get serious, I didn't realize leftists could be politically
paranoid about conspiracy theories.
I can accept there might be some, even unconscious, manipulation
of conclusions and presentation of fact due to personal opinions and
political or commercial agendas, but data is recorded fact, and only
an idiot would attempt to publish false data.
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:18:00 -0400
author: Whata Fool
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Re: Global dimming and ice age predictions after WW2 contradict
global warming theory
Whata Fool wrote:
> Steve Wallis wrote:
>
>> I've also posted the following comment to
>> http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
>> (on "Solar activity & climate: is the sun causing global warming?"):
>>
>>
>> I forgot to mention in the above comment that the whole argument that
>> the sun is not to blame is based on data/graphs that may be
>> fabricated.
>>
>> There are massive vested interests, on both sides of the global
>> warming debate, so fabrication of data is to be expected.
>>
>> Bearing in mind that one set of data for cooling during the post-war
>> boom (despite higher production of carbon dioxide than earlier in the
>> 20th century when temperatures were rising) is incorrect and clearly
>> fabricated, the same may be true of recent solar radiance data.
>
>
> Get serious, I didn't realize leftists could be politically
> paranoid about conspiracy theories.
>
>
Right wing Cabal??????????
Republicans planted Monica's Lips on Billy Clinton's penis.
> I can accept there might be some, even unconscious, manipulation
> of conclusions and presentation of fact due to personal opinions and
> political or commercial agendas, but data is recorded fact, and only
> an idiot would attempt to publish false data.
>
>
>
>
>
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:36:35 -0400
author: Poetic Justice @http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com
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Re: Global dimming and ice age predictions after WW2 contradict global warming theory
nada wrote:
>On Aug 14, 4:18 pm, Whata Fool wrote:
>> Steve Wallis wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >I've also posted the following comment to
>> >http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warmin...
>> >(on "Solar activity & climate: is the sun causing global warming?"):
>>
>> >I forgot to mention in the above comment that the whole argument that
>> >the sun is not to blame is based on data/graphs that may be
>> >fabricated.
>>
>> >There are massive vested interests, on both sides of the global
>> >warming debate, so fabrication of data is to be expected.
>>
>> >Bearing in mind that one set of data for cooling during the post-war
>> >boom (despite higher production of carbon dioxide than earlier in the
>> >20th century when temperatures were rising) is incorrect and clearly
>> >fabricated, the same may be true of recent solar radiance data.
>>
>> Get serious, I didn't realize leftists could be politically
>> paranoid about conspiracy theories.
>>
>> I can accept there might be some, even unconscious, manipulation
>> of conclusions and presentation of fact due to personal opinions and
>> political or commercial agendas, but data is recorded fact, and only
>> an idiot would attempt to publish false data.
>
>"conspiracy theories" are just that, theories that usually have little
>evidence behind them. Socialists are concerned about class struggle
>and everything...EVERYTHING flows form this.
>
>David
I'm concerned about class struggle, and always struggling
to make enough money to buy enough diet cola and Reese Cups.
But it really doesn't matter, I have known thousands of
people in a dozen states, and only met one communist and three
socialists.
Maybe they will win in the coming election.
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:35:34 -0400
author: Whata Fool
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Re: Global dimming and ice age predictions after WW2 contradict
global warming theory
Whata Fool wrote:
> nada wrote:
>
>> On Aug 14, 4:18 pm, Whata Fool wrote:
>>> Steve Wallis wrote:
>>>
>>> I can accept there might be some, even unconscious, manipulation
>>> of conclusions and presentation of fact due to personal opinions and
>>> political or commercial agendas, but data is recorded fact, and only
>>> an idiot would attempt to publish false data.
>> "conspiracy theories" are just that, theories that usually have little
>> evidence behind them. Socialists are concerned about class struggle
>> and everything...EVERYTHING flows form this.
>>
>> David
>
>
> I'm concerned about class struggle, and always struggling
> to make enough money to buy enough diet cola and Reese Cups.
>
It's the Big Corporate Junk Food Industry getting corporiate welfare...
release the *Strategic Mini-Mart Reserves* to get the price down.
>
date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:54:09 -0400
author: Poetic Justice @http://Poetic-Justice.Talk-n-Dog.com
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