....the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
high street shops, eager to contribute their
disproportionate share to global warming, have
their front doors wide open and the heat turned
up full.

I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
27 deg C for you non-christians).

The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
(or used to?) and it's about time - considering
the oncoming problems with global warming - that
HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
system inn operation during such times'.

Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
Energy/carbon savings = substantial.

So let's get on with it and take a lead...

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:43:05 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
wrote:

>...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
>high street shops, eager to contribute their
>disproportionate share to global warming, have
>their front doors wide open and the heat turned
>up full.
>
>I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
>stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
>Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
>must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
>27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
>The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
>demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
>(or used to?) and it's about time - considering
>the oncoming problems with global warming - that
>HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
>temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND

You don't think that this will require air conditioning? 

>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>system inn operation during such times'.
>
>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
>So let's get on with it and take a lead... 
>

On Apr 10, 7:43 pm, "OlOlOl01" <nospamh...@all.thanks> wrote:
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...



What gets me is that the shop workers know that people will have coats
and hats on when it's a bit nippy out, and they still turn that
heating up so high it's unbearable.
The worst offender is BHS.
It literally makes me feel sick as soon as I walk through the doors.
I don't go in there any more.

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:bu5p13l5eiu43ecvs08s8k1r7gji5egd4g@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:43:05 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>>...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
>>high street shops, eager to contribute their
>>disproportionate share to global warming, have
>>their front doors wide open and the heat turned
>>up full.
>>
>>I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
>>stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
>>Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
>>must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
>>27 deg C for you non-christians).
>>
>>The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
>>demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
>>(or used to?) and it's about time - considering
>>the oncoming problems with global warming - that
>>HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
>>temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
>
> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>
You make a very valid point.

Second draft:
"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
or cooling system in operation during such times."

Any nearer??


>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>
>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>
>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>>

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
wrote:


>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>
>You make a very valid point.
>
>Second draft:
>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>
>Any nearer??
>

Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
solar powered.

Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
employees can sweat.

In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.


>
>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>
>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>
>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>>> 
>
-- 
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Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://wwww.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>
>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>
>>You make a very valid point.
>>
>>Second draft:
>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>
>>Any nearer??
>>
>
> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
> solar powered.
>
> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
> employees can sweat.
>
> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>
>
>>
>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>
>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>
>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...


Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you ever 
been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this carbon 
offset footprint waffle shite? It never ceases to amaze me how people like 
you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an ulterior 
motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you thinking along 
these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'. Yet i bet you 
both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air, that's the big 
picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
hook, line & sinker by idiots.
Beefheart.

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:43:05 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
wrote:

>...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
>high street shops, eager to contribute their
>disproportionate share to global warming, have
>their front doors wide open and the heat turned
>up full.
>
>I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
>stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
>Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
>must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
>27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
>The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
>demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
>(or used to?) and it's about time - considering
>the oncoming problems with global warming - that
>HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
>temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND

You don't think that this will require air conditioning? 

>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>system inn operation during such times'.
>
>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
>So let's get on with it and take a lead... 
>

On Apr 10, 7:43 pm, "OlOlOl01" <nospamh...@all.thanks> wrote:
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...



What gets me is that the shop workers know that people will have coats
and hats on when it's a bit nippy out, and they still turn that
heating up so high it's unbearable.
The worst offender is BHS.
It literally makes me feel sick as soon as I walk through the doors.
I don't go in there any more.

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:bu5p13l5eiu43ecvs08s8k1r7gji5egd4g@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:43:05 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>>...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
>>high street shops, eager to contribute their
>>disproportionate share to global warming, have
>>their front doors wide open and the heat turned
>>up full.
>>
>>I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
>>stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
>>Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
>>must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
>>27 deg C for you non-christians).
>>
>>The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
>>demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
>>(or used to?) and it's about time - considering
>>the oncoming problems with global warming - that
>>HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
>>temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
>
> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>
You make a very valid point.

Second draft:
"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
or cooling system in operation during such times."

Any nearer??


>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>
>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>
>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>>

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
wrote:


>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>
>You make a very valid point.
>
>Second draft:
>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>
>Any nearer??
>

Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
solar powered.

Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
employees can sweat.

In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.


>
>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>
>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>
>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>>> 
>
-- 
http://wwww.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://wwww.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>
>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>
>>You make a very valid point.
>>
>>Second draft:
>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>
>>Any nearer??
>>
>
> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
> solar powered.
>
> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
> employees can sweat.
>
> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>
>
>>
>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>
>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>
>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...


Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you ever 
been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this carbon 
offset footprint waffle shite? It never ceases to amaze me how people like 
you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an ulterior 
motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you thinking along 
these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'. Yet i bet you 
both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air, that's the big 
picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
hook, line & sinker by idiots.
Beefheart.

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:bu5p13l5eiu43ecvs08s8k1r7gji5egd4g@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:43:05 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>>...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
>>high street shops, eager to contribute their
>>disproportionate share to global warming, have
>>their front doors wide open and the heat turned
>>up full.
>>
>>I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
>>stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
>>Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
>>must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
>>27 deg C for you non-christians).
>>
>>The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
>>demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
>>(or used to?) and it's about time - considering
>>the oncoming problems with global warming - that
>>HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
>>temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
>
> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>
You make a very valid point.

Second draft:
"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
or cooling system in operation during such times."

Any nearer??


>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>
>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>
>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>>

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
wrote:


>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>
>You make a very valid point.
>
>Second draft:
>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>
>Any nearer??
>

Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
solar powered.

Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
employees can sweat.

In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.


>
>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>
>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>
>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>>> 
>
-- 
http://wwww.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://wwww.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>
>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>
>>You make a very valid point.
>>
>>Second draft:
>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>
>>Any nearer??
>>
>
> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
> solar powered.
>
> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
> employees can sweat.
>
> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>
>
>>
>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>
>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>
>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...


Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you ever 
been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this carbon 
offset footprint waffle shite? It never ceases to amaze me how people like 
you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an ulterior 
motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you thinking along 
these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'. Yet i bet you 
both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air, that's the big 
picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
hook, line & sinker by idiots.
Beefheart.

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:bu5p13l5eiu43ecvs08s8k1r7gji5egd4g@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 18:43:05 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>>...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
>>high street shops, eager to contribute their
>>disproportionate share to global warming, have
>>their front doors wide open and the heat turned
>>up full.
>>
>>I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
>>stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
>>Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
>>must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
>>27 deg C for you non-christians).
>>
>>The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
>>demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
>>(or used to?) and it's about time - considering
>>the oncoming problems with global warming - that
>>HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
>>temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
>
> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>
You make a very valid point.

Second draft:
"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
or cooling system in operation during such times."

Any nearer??


>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>
>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>
>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>>

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
wrote:


>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>
>You make a very valid point.
>
>Second draft:
>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>
>Any nearer??
>

Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
solar powered.

Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
employees can sweat.

In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.


>
>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>
>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>
>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>>> 
>
-- 
http://wwww.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://wwww.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>
>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>
>>You make a very valid point.
>>
>>Second draft:
>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>
>>Any nearer??
>>
>
> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
> solar powered.
>
> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
> employees can sweat.
>
> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>
>
>>
>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>
>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>
>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...


Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you ever 
been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this carbon 
offset footprint waffle shite? It never ceases to amaze me how people like 
you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an ulterior 
motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you thinking along 
these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'. Yet i bet you 
both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air, that's the big 
picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
hook, line & sinker by idiots.
Beefheart.

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
wrote:


>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>
>You make a very valid point.
>
>Second draft:
>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>
>Any nearer??
>

Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
solar powered.

Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
employees can sweat.

In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.


>
>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>
>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>
>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>>> 
>
-- 
http://wwww.orderonlinepickupinstore.co.uk
Ah fetch it yourself if you can't wait for delivery
http://wwww.freedeliveryuk.co.uk
Or get it delivered for free

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>
>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>
>>You make a very valid point.
>>
>>Second draft:
>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>
>>Any nearer??
>>
>
> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
> solar powered.
>
> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
> employees can sweat.
>
> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>
>
>>
>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>
>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>
>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...


Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you ever 
been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this carbon 
offset footprint waffle shite? It never ceases to amaze me how people like 
you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an ulterior 
motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you thinking along 
these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'. Yet i bet you 
both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air, that's the big 
picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
hook, line & sinker by idiots.
Beefheart.

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

"Mogga"  wrote in message 
news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
> wrote:
>
>
>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>
>>You make a very valid point.
>>
>>Second draft:
>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>
>>Any nearer??
>>
>
> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
> solar powered.
>
> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
> employees can sweat.
>
> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>
>
>>
>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>
>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>
>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...


Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you ever 
been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this carbon 
offset footprint waffle shite? It never ceases to amaze me how people like 
you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an ulterior 
motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you thinking along 
these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'. Yet i bet you 
both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air, that's the big 
picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
hook, line & sinker by idiots.
Beefheart.

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

"Capt. Beefheart"  wrote in message 
news:FVOTh.16771$ne6.10694@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message 
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>>You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>>Second draft:
>>>"the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>limited to 70 deg F (21 degC) OR the ambient external
>>>temperature, measured in the shade, whichever is the greater
>>>AND any premises having doors open to atnmosphere
>>>for more than 30 minutes shall not have any heating
>>>or cooling system in operation during such times."
>>>
>>>Any nearer??
>>>
>>
>> Why not just have a rule that says all air cooling machines should be
>> solar powered.
>>
>> Offices which don't have doors for the public spend lots of money on
>> keeping cool in hot weather. Having no maximum legal work temp means
>> employees can sweat.
>>
>> In Japan I believe they encouraged people to not wear a shirt and tie
>> when it was hot as this helps people be cooler.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
>>>>>doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
>>>>>30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
>>>>>system inn operation during such times'.
>>>>>
>>>>>Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
>>>>>Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>>>>>
>>>>>So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>
>
> Muppets both of you. You are talking nonsense about nonsense. Have you 
> ever been travelling & seen that most of the world is not buying this 
> carbon offset footprint waffle shite?

What carbon offset??

It never ceases to amaze me how people like
> you believe just what's put in front of you without ever seeing an 
> ulterior motive...You just swallow it don't you. Tell me..where you 
> thinking along these lines 10 years ago or just since you were 'informed'.

I read 'The Limits to Growth' and 'Mankind at the Turning Point'
more than 20 years ago, dear chap.

Yet i bet you
> both consider yourselves 'intelligent' don't you...well your not, you are 
> suckers. They are soon going to make you pay for air,

Ah, yes.
That idea first gets a mention in 'The Ragged Trousered Philantropist'
I suggest you read the complete text, and follow it with Brave New
World and Brave New World revisited.

Education is a wonderful thing - why don't you get some.


that's the big
> picture, all the fluffy bits in the middle are a con trick to be swallowed 
> hook, line & sinker by idiots.
> Beefheart.

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

Interesting.

Is there a copy of this act available online?

thanks,
Michael


"OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks> wrote in message 
news:ZUQSh.21$5T2.15@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> ...the weather has turned a little bit sunny and the
> high street shops, eager to contribute their
> disproportionate share to global warming, have
> their front doors wide open and the heat turned
> up full.
>
> I counted twenty at least (mostly national chain
> stores - notably NOT Woolworths [well done
> Woolies]) & the temperature in those I went in
> must have been well over 80 deg F (that's about
> 27 deg C for you non-christians).
>
> The Offices, Shops and Railway Premises Act
> demands a minimum temperature of 16 deg C
> (or used to?) and it's about time - considering
> the oncoming problems with global warming - that
> HMG amended this act to specify a MAXIMUM
> temperature of (say) 70 deg F (21 degC) AND
> further, a reqwuirement that any premises having
> doors open to atnmosphere for more than (say)
> 30 minutes 'shall not have any heating or cooling
> system inn operation during such times'.
>
> Cost to public/HMG = next to nothing.
> Energy/carbon savings = substantial.
>
> So let's get on with it and take a lead...
>

My name is Jeff Goatcher, I have been an activist in the peace movement in  the UK (I worked for the Bertrand Russell Peace Foundation for a number of  years) and I am currently doing research into the personality  characteristics of political activists. I would really appreciate it if you could spare 10 minutes or so [probably less] to complete a  questionnaire I have got together.

If you want to know anything more about my research you are welcome to  email me at Jeffrey.goatcher@ntu.ac.uk

The link below will take you to my questionnaire
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=622143779393

thanks very much

On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:16:21 퍝, Capt. Beefheart   wrote:

>
> "Mogga"  wrote in message
> news:92su13hfa9el7lqjhhvok7g2aea7th77o9@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 18:57:10 GMT, "OlOlOl01" <nospamhere@all.thanks>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> You don't think that this will require air conditioning?
>>>>
>>> You make a very valid point.
>>>
>>> Second draft:
>>> "the premises shall have the MAXIMUM temperature
>>>