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date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:56 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),    group: uk.politics.environment        back       
Have DU Will Travel (Lone Star Iconoclast)   
http://lonestaricon.com/2006/CurrentIssue/09/news03.htm

When The Iconoclast learned of a study conducted by Chris Busby and Saoirse 
Morgan that suggests that depleted uranium radiation had traveled from Iraq to 
Great Britain during “shock and awe,” we knew it was time to more fully explore 
the implications.

We decided to “lay it all on the table,” as best we could by interviewing noted 
scientists and people in the know about radiation, those who have become medical 
casualties, those who have gone through the military system, and those who 
possess an upper tier knowledge of radiation in general.

This is clear: the day that depleted uranium was introduced into the arsenal of 
doom was quite literally the day the earth stood still, with scientists 
worldwide uniting to voice concern that genocide had found a home on our planet. 
At the other extreme, militarists hailed the nuclear substance as their newest 
advantage in maximizing destruction. It became a trump card with the ability to 
destroy the masses, even those yet unborn.

On the battlefield, DU has been hailed as the best, and what country does not 
want its soldiers to be given the best of tools in a time of war? Yet the bloody 
afterglow of radiation and its dire consequences for civilization have caused 
others to describe DU as “death unlimited.”

We were told by the U.S. military in Iraq that there is no longer a need for 
depleted uranium munitions there and that, indeed, the current deployment is not 
using DU. However, this past week it was announced that the Army has placed a 
$38 million order for new DU munitions, extending the original contract for 
fiscal year 2006 up to $77 million.

DU is a controversial subject.

The Iconoclast attempted to get some answers.

We were pleased that some individuals were forthcoming when we attempted to 
interview them and we were disappointed at others who broke promises to call us 
back after they learned the subject matter was depleted uranium.

Although the quantity of text in this report tends to weigh heavier for 
individuals opposed to the use of depleted uranium, the Iconoclast spent 
considerable time attempting to obtain Q&A viewpoints that might be on the other 
side of the argument. It was in this venue that promised phone calls were not 
returned and our reporters got multiple run-arounds in reaching the “top brass.”

Nevertheless, The Iconoclast has produced this special feature which provides 
our readers a chance to listen in on some of the conversations and draw their 
own conclusions.

Among those interviewed, in the order they appear in this feature, were:

• Chris Busby, author of the study: “Did the use of Uranium weapons in Gulf War 
2 result in contamination of Europe?”

• Leuren Moret, geological scientist and international radiation expert.

• Dr. Ernest J. Sternglass, Emeritus Professor of Radiological Physics in the 
Department of Radiology, University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.

• Dr. Rosalie Bertell, PhD, GNSH, President of the International Institute of 
Concern for Public Health (IICPH), and Editor in Chief of International 
Perspectives in Public Health.

• Major Doug Rokke, Ph.D. (retired), former director of the U.S. Army Depleted 
Uranium Project, Vietnam and Gulf War Veteran.

• Major Denise Nichols (retired), Gulf War Veteran and retired U.S. Air Force 
Reserve Major,Vice Chairman of the National Vietnam Veteran and Gulf War 
Veterans Coalition.

• Ann Ham, Public Affairs, U.S. Army Center for Health Promotion and Preventive 
Medicine.

• Captain William Roberts, Multi-National Forces Iraq Spokesman.

• Tim Hix, Vietnam Veteran exposed to Agent Orange, dying of cancer.

• Karl Schwarz, presidential candidate, author, technology company founder whose 
son served in Iraq.

We lead off with the news story about the study.

http://lonestaricon.com/2006/CurrentIssue/09/news03.htm

Alan

"Nemesis, winged one that tips the scales of life,
dark-eyed goddess, daughter of Justice,
you restrain the futile pride of mortals with your unyielding bridle and,
hating hurtful vanity, destroy black envy: below your wheel,
always moving but leaving no trace, the fortune of man turns.

Unseen, you come at once to defeat arrogance;
by your hand you gauge the span of life, and, frowning,
you scrutinise the thoughts of men, you always hold the balance.
Be merciful, hallowed judge, winged Nemesis, life's force.                       

We honour you, Nemesis, immortal goddess,                                        
 
victory incarnate with wings unfurled, faultless,                                
sharing the throne of Justice; you resent human vanity 
and banish men to Tartarus below"

Nemesis Peace Centre

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date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 13:56 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)   author:   (Alan)

Re: Have DU Will Travel (Lone Star Iconoclast)   
Busby failed to demonstrate the uranium was DU as the data he used did not 
include isotope ratios.


"Alan"  wrote in message 
news:memo.20060304135652.552B@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk...
> http://lonestaricon.com/2006/CurrentIssue/09/news03.htm
>
> When The Iconoclast learned of a study conducted by Chris Busby and 
> Saoirse
> Morgan that suggests that depleted uranium radiation had traveled from 
> Iraq to
> Great Britain during "shock and awe," we knew it was time to more fully 
> explore
> the implications.
>
> We decided to "lay it all on the table," as best we could by interviewing 
> noted
> scientists and people in the know about radiation, those who have become 
> medical
> casualties, those who have gone through the military system, and those who
> possess an upper tier knowledge of radiation in general.
>
> This is clear: the day that depleted uranium was introduced into the 
> arsenal of
> doom was quite literally the day the earth stood still, with scientists
> worldwide uniting to voice concern that genocide had found a home on our 
> planet.
> At the other extreme, militarists hailed the nuclear substance as their 
> newest
> advantage in maximizing destruction. It became a trump card with the 
> ability to
> destroy the masses, even those yet unborn.
>
> On the battlefield, DU has been hailed as the best, and what country does 
> not
> want its soldiers to be given the best of tools in a time of war? Yet the 
> bloody
> afterglow of radiation and its dire consequences for civilization have 
> caused
> others to describe DU as "death unlimited."
>
> We were told by the U.S. military in Iraq that there is no longer a need 
> for
> depleted uranium munitions there and that, indeed, the current deployment 
> is not
> using DU. However, this past week it was announced that the Army has 
> placed a
> $38 million order for new DU munitions, extending the original contract 
> for
> fiscal year 2006 up to $77 million.
>
> DU is a controversial subject.
>
> The Iconoclast attempted to get some answers.
>
> We were pleased that some individuals were forthcoming when we attempted 
> to
> interview them and we were disappointed at others who broke promises to 
> call us
> back after they learned the subject matter was depleted uranium.
>
> Although the quantity of text in this report tends to weigh heavier for
> individuals opposed to the use of depleted uranium, the Iconoclast spent
> considerable time attempting to obtain Q&A viewpoints that might be on the 
> other
> side of the argument. It was in this venue that promised phone calls were 
> not
> returned and our reporters got multiple run-arounds in reaching the "top 
> brass."
>
> Nevertheless, The Iconoclast has produced this special feature which 
> provides
> our readers a chance to listen in on some of the conversations and draw 
> their
> own conclusions.
>
> Among those interviewed, in the order they appear in this feature, were:
>
> . Chris Busby, author of the study: "Did the use of Uranium weapons in 
> Gulf War
> 2 result in contamination of Europe?"
>
> . Leuren Moret, geological scientist and international radiation expert.
>
> . Dr. Ernest J. Sternglass, Emeritus Professor of Radiological Physics in 
> the
> Department of Radiology, University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.
>
> . Dr. Rosalie Bertell, PhD, GNSH, President of the International Institute 
> of
> Concern for Public Health (IICPH), and Editor in Chief of International
> Perspectives in Public Health.
>
> . Major Doug Rokke, Ph.D. (retired), former director of the U.S. Army 
> Depleted
> Uranium Project, Vietnam and Gulf War Veteran.
>
> . Major Denise Nichols (retired), Gulf War Veteran and retired U.S. Air 
> Force
> Reserve Major,Vice Chairman of the National Vietnam Veteran and Gulf War
> Veterans Coalition.
>
> . Ann Ham, Public Affairs, U.S. Army Center for Health Promotion and 
> Preventive
> Medicine.
>
> . Captain William Roberts, Multi-National Forces Iraq Spokesman.
>
> . Tim Hix, Vietnam Veteran exposed to Agent Orange, dying of cancer.
>
> . Karl Schwarz, presidential candidate, author, technology company founder 
> whose
> son served in Iraq.
>
> We lead off with the news story about the study.
>
> http://lonestaricon.com/2006/CurrentIssue/09/news03.htm
>
> Alan
>
> "Nemesis, winged one that tips the scales of life,
> dark-eyed goddess, daughter of Justice,
> you restrain the futile pride of mortals with your unyielding bridle and,
> hating hurtful vanity, destroy black envy: below your wheel,
> always moving but leaving no trace, the fortune of man turns.
>
> Unseen, you come at once to defeat arrogance;
> by your hand you gauge the span of life, and, frowning,
> you scrutinise the thoughts of men, you always hold the balance.
> Be merciful, hallowed judge, winged Nemesis, life's force.
>
> We honour you, Nemesis, immortal goddess,
>
> victory incarnate with wings unfurled, faultless,
> sharing the throne of Justice; you resent human vanity
> and banish men to Tartarus below"
>
> Nemesis Peace Centre
>
> http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html
>
> Abuse of Women and Children
>
> http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/
>
> Nemesis News
>
> http://lordcerneabbas.blogspot.com/
>
> The Fight For Freedom
>
> http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/
date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 15:47:16 GMT   author:   Fred Dawson

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