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date: 23 Feb 2006 06:05:10 -0800,    group: uk.politics.environment        back       
The fallacy of the "far-right"   
A COMMON fallacy that we White Nationalists often encounter is the
notion that we are some kind of right-wingers - albeit a little more
drastic or extreme. Accordingly, whereas most right-wingers simply moan
and wring their hands about conditions or otherwise speak in measured
tones of eloquent protest, we White Nationalists are expected to behave
a bit more recklessly in the service of the Cause.
    The truth, however, is that we are not part of any right-wing
movement, anymore, than we are part of some left-wing cause.
    Whereas the so-called Right and Left are nothing more than two
sides of the same coin, White Nationalism is a different coin
altogether. It is revolutionary and it is unique.
    The role of the Right, on the other hand, is hopelessly
reactionary. It functions in perfect tandem with every initiative taken
by the Left. All the Reds have to do to get these myopic creatures to
do something is to embrace the opposite. If they want them to jump off
a cliff, all they have to do is say, "Don't jump!" - and away the
turkeys go, gobbling off into the wild blue yonder.
    Whether in matters of domestic policy or foreign affairs, the
reaction is inevitably the same. "Pollution is good because the
Socialist Workers Party are against it." "Job safety is bad, because
Arthur Scargill's SLP are for it." "Saddam Hussain is a Communist,
because the Morning Star has denounced US policy on Iraq." "Corporate
capitalism and the plastic society are a taste of the Millennium
itself, because the Reds are against free enterprise." And so it goes.
The same muddled reasoning applies to issues ranging from energy,
public health and land use to the former Soviet Union, China and the
Middle East.
    Actually, "rightwingism" isn't so much a coherent philosophy as it
is a pattern of induced Pavlovian behaviour triggered by stimuli
gratuitously supplied by the Left.
    As Racial Nationalists and National Revolutionaries, we refuse to
play this game.
    We do not take our cue from what the Left does or does not do -
let alone from what the Right does or doesn't do - but rather from a
clear-cut world view which based upon the immutable laws of Nature. And
here we recognize first of all the values of Blood, Race and Social
Justice and the necessity for their preservation at all costs.
    This is the cornerstone of White Nationalism. And all
considerations of good and bad, of right and wrong, must ultimately be
decided from that point alone - and not by the actions or notions of
either Right or Left.
    The clucking and gobbling we reserve for others. Our job is not to
convert a reactionary Right Wing or a sterile Left Wing, but to build a
new order by winning the hearts and minds of those who are alienated by
both these factions of a decadent and dying old order.

http://www.aryanunity.com/WNP/rightwingers.html
date: 23 Feb 2006 06:05:10 -0800   author:   unknown

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
wrote in message
news:1140703510.867575.92410@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> A COMMON fallacy that we White Nationalists often encounter is the
> notion that we are some kind of right-wingers - albeit a little more
> drastic or extreme. Accordingly, whereas most right-wingers simply moan
> and wring their hands about conditions or otherwise speak in measured
> tones of eloquent protest, we White Nationalists are expected to behave
> a bit more recklessly in the service of the Cause.

how do you class someone to be white?
is it birthplace, colour, how do you judge?
date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 18:31:59 -0000   author:   the idiot

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
the idiot wrote:
>
> how do you class someone to be white?
> is it birthplace, colour, how do you judge?

Try using your eyes idiot.
date: 23 Feb 2006 10:33:54 -0800   author:   Crowley

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
I think in general people who the idiot left and wooly liberals like to call 
racists, nazis etc are actually just isolationists, they simply wish to live 
in their own north european culture, following their own faith and value 
systems and they simply rightfully dont want to mix or involve with oyther 
cultures apart from trading neccessity.
date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 20:41:59 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Northern Raider

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
"Northern Raider"  wrote in message
news:dtl6mn$28e$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> I think in general people who the idiot left and wooly liberals like to
call
> racists, nazis etc are actually just isolationists, they simply wish to
live
> in their own north european culture, following their own faith and value
> systems and they simply rightfully dont want to mix or involve with oyther
> cultures apart from trading neccessity.
>
seems a bit dull. mashed potato and chips everyday.
date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:16:47 -0000   author:   the idiot

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
"the idiot"  wrote in message 
news:-eSdnerQg5qku2PeSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>
> "Northern Raider"  wrote in message
> news:dtl6mn$28e$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> I think in general people who the idiot left and wooly liberals like to
> call
>> racists, nazis etc are actually just isolationists, they simply wish to
> live
>> in their own north european culture, following their own faith and value
>> systems and they simply rightfully dont want to mix or involve with 
>> oyther
>> cultures apart from trading neccessity.
>>
> seems a bit dull. mashed potato and chips everyday.
>
Possibly but we should give the isolationists the same respect and 
consideration as the multi culturalists.
date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:33:47 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Northern Raider

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
"Northern Raider"  wrote in message
news:dtl9nr$nk$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>
> "the idiot"  wrote in message
> news:-eSdnerQg5qku2PeSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> >
> > "Northern Raider"  wrote in message
> > news:dtl6mn$28e$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> >> I think in general people who the idiot left and wooly liberals like to
> > call
> >> racists, nazis etc are actually just isolationists, they simply wish to
> > live
> >> in their own north european culture, following their own faith and
value
> >> systems and they simply rightfully dont want to mix or involve with
> >> oyther
> >> cultures apart from trading neccessity.
> >>
> > seems a bit dull. mashed potato and chips everyday.
> >
> Possibly but we should give the isolationists the same respect and
> consideration as the multi culturalists.
>

aye but where are they going to live cos im not moving anywhere?
date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:44:26 -0000   author:   the idiot

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
"the idiot"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Northern Raider"  wrote in message
> news:dtl9nr$nk$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>
>> "the idiot"  wrote in message
>> news:-eSdnerQg5qku2PeSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>> >
>> > "Northern Raider"  wrote in message
>> > news:dtl6mn$28e$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> >> I think in general people who the idiot left and wooly liberals like 
>> >> to
>> > call
>> >> racists, nazis etc are actually just isolationists, they simply wish 
>> >> to
>> > live
>> >> in their own north european culture, following their own faith and
> value
>> >> systems and they simply rightfully dont want to mix or involve with
>> >> oyther
>> >> cultures apart from trading neccessity.
>> >>
>> > seems a bit dull. mashed potato and chips everyday.
>> >
>> Possibly but we should give the isolationists the same respect and
>> consideration as the multi culturalists.
>>
>
> aye but where are they going to live cos im not moving anywhere?
>
Their point exactly, no one has bothered  to consider or consult with people 
or communities as to what sort of culture or lifestyle they want, so why 
should folks whose cultural identity and way of life be altered to 
accomodate a foreign or alien culture without due process, its simply 
pandering to the new comers with no regard to those who have lived here for 
millenia.
date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 21:46:59 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Northern Raider

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
In article , 
carsss1234567@yahoo.com () wrote:

> A COMMON fallacy that we White Nationalists often encounter is the
> notion that we are some kind of right-wingers - albeit a little more
> drastic or extreme. Accordingly, whereas most right-wingers simply moan
> and wring their hands about conditions or otherwise speak in measured
> tones of eloquent protest, we White Nationalists are expected to behave
> a bit more recklessly in the service of the Cause.
>     The truth, however, is that we are not part of any right-wing
> movement, anymore, than we are part of some left-wing cause.
>     Whereas the so-called Right and Left are nothing more than two
> sides of the same coin, White Nationalism is a different coin
> altogether. It is revolutionary and it is unique.
>     The role of the Right, on the other hand, is hopelessly
> reactionary. It functions in perfect tandem with every initiative taken
> by the Left. All the Reds have to do to get these myopic creatures to
> do something is to embrace the opposite. If they want them to jump off
> a cliff, all they have to do is say, "Don't jump!" - and away the
> turkeys go, gobbling off into the wild blue yonder.
>     Whether in matters of domestic policy or foreign affairs, the
> reaction is inevitably the same. "Pollution is good because the
> Socialist Workers Party are against it." "Job safety is bad, because
> Arthur Scargill's SLP are for it." "Saddam Hussain is a Communist,
> because the Morning Star has denounced US policy on Iraq." "Corporate
> capitalism and the plastic society are a taste of the Millennium
> itself, because the Reds are against free enterprise." And so it goes.
> The same muddled reasoning applies to issues ranging from energy,
> public health and land use to the former Soviet Union, China and the
> Middle East.
>     Actually, "rightwingism" isn't so much a coherent philosophy as it
> is a pattern of induced Pavlovian behaviour triggered by stimuli
> gratuitously supplied by the Left.
>     As Racial Nationalists and National Revolutionaries, we refuse to
> play this game.
>     We do not take our cue from what the Left does or does not do -
> let alone from what the Right does or doesn't do - but rather from a
> clear-cut world view which based upon the immutable laws of Nature. And
> here we recognize first of all the values of Blood, Race and Social
> Justice and the necessity for their preservation at all costs.
>     This is the cornerstone of White Nationalism. And all
> considerations of good and bad, of right and wrong, must ultimately be
> decided from that point alone - and not by the actions or notions of
> either Right or Left.
>     The clucking and gobbling we reserve for others. Our job is not to
> convert a reactionary Right Wing or a sterile Left Wing, but to build a
> new order by winning the hearts and minds of those who are alienated by
> both these factions of a decadent and dying old order.
> 
> http://www.aryanunity.com/WNP/rightwingers.html

Yes, but the problem with you good ole boys is that you are too dumb to 
understand what a Neo-Conservative is, or you would never trust one as far as 
you could throw him, let alone elect them to power. 

Here! Fortunately the Catholic Church does know:

What Is a Neoconservative? -- & Does It Matter?

http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=1205-editorial

And if you are still confused, you can look up Leon Trotsky here:

http://www.marxists.org.uk/archive/trotsky/works/1942-dm/index.htm

You have all been *duped* big time and you really need to WAKE-UP!



Alan

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/enigma.html

http://veloceraptor.blogspot.com/

http://www.bushflash.com/pl_lo.html
date: Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:06 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)   author:   (Alan)

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
"Northern Raider"  wrote in message
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>
> "the idiot"  wrote in message
> news:aQ2dnfOraagpsWPeSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> >
> > "Northern Raider"  wrote in message
> > news:dtl9nr$nk$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> >>
> >> "the idiot"  wrote in message
> >> news:-eSdnerQg5qku2PeSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
> >> >
> >> > "Northern Raider"  wrote in message
> >> > news:dtl6mn$28e$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> >> >> I think in general people who the idiot left and wooly liberals like
> >> >> to
> >> > call
> >> >> racists, nazis etc are actually just isolationists, they simply wish
> >> >> to
> >> > live
> >> >> in their own north european culture, following their own faith and
> > value
> >> >> systems and they simply rightfully dont want to mix or involve with
> >> >> oyther
> >> >> cultures apart from trading neccessity.
> >> >>
> >> > seems a bit dull. mashed potato and chips everyday.
> >> >
> >> Possibly but we should give the isolationists the same respect and
> >> consideration as the multi culturalists.
> >>
> >
> > aye but where are they going to live cos im not moving anywhere?
> >
> Their point exactly, no one has bothered  to consider or consult with
people
> or communities as to what sort of culture or lifestyle they want, so why
> should folks whose cultural identity and way of life be altered to
> accomodate a foreign or alien culture without due process, its simply
> pandering to the new comers with no regard to those who have lived here
for
> millenia.
>
erm this is england weve always taken on new ideas cultures lifestyles etc
our language constantly mutates  etc etc which is why we have been so
successful over the centuries...
date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 00:09:50 -0000   author:   the idiot

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
> 
> erm this is england weve always taken on new ideas cultures lifestyles etc
> our language constantly mutates  etc etc which is why we have been so
> successful over the centuries...
>  
Sad but true.  Just look at some of the shit we've had forced on us. 
McDonalds, crap US TV shows, Tony Blair (the bastard off-spring of 
Bush), Walmart, etc.

Additions to culture are not always improvements but lets try them 
before we reject them out of hand.
date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 08:20:55 +0000   author:   Your Lord and Master

Re: The fallacy of the "far-right"   
"the idiot"  wrote in message 
news:HHOdnQ9jS-9V02PeSa8jmw@karoo.co.uk...
>>
> erm this is england weve always taken on new ideas cultures lifestyles etc
> our language constantly mutates  etc etc which is why we have been so
> successful over the centuries...
>
That is very true but we have also frequently rejected aspects that did not 
suit us, Catholisism, Nazism, etc and in nearly all cases the incoming 
influence blended seamlessly into our culture / way of life to give more 
benefits than defecits, We tried slaverey did not like it and got rid of it, 
we tried many religions and belief systems and rejected all the oppressive 
or overwhelming ones, and to be pefectly honrst most things that have 
arrived here have improved our overall lives, How has Islam, mass migration 
of often hostile and anti british people benefitted us, how has the lower 
respect for the value of human life as displayed by many african types 
benefitted us,  how has our tolereance to an intolerant  culture benefitted 
us etc etc We have had in our recent past jews, poles, hugenots, chinese, 
irish,sikhs, buddists, indians, burmese, russians, nepalese  etc all who 
have improved our nation and blended seamlesssly in,  but not the majority 
of inward migration and cukltures since 1956.
date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 09:49:38 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Northern Raider

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