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date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:25:52 +0100,    group: uk.politics.electoral        back       
May 2010   
The PM declined to hold a general election just now as it would 'cause 
chaos'.

Presumably to hold one in May 2010 would also cause chaos, so has he a way 
of not holding an election then?

I only ask because I want to know

TTFN

Nick Russell
Herefordshire
date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:25:52 +0100   author:   Nick Russell

Re: May 2010   
In article , nicks40@gmail.com 
(Nick Russell) wrote:

> The PM declined to hold a general election just now as it would 
> 'cause chaos'.
> 
> Presumably to hold one in May 2010 would also cause chaos, so has 
> he a way of not holding an election then?
> 
> I only ask because I want to know
> 
> TTFN

Only in the sense that the actual latest legal date is June 2010. Chaos or 
no chaos.

-- 
Cllr. Colin Rosenstiel
Cambridge                    http://www.rosenstiel.co.uk/
Cambridge Liberal Democrats: http://www.cambridgelibdems.org.uk/
date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:41:37 -0500   author:   unknown

Re: June 2010   
OK, June 2010. What happens if Gordon doesn't go then? Say, an election 'is 
not in the best interests of the country'?


 wrote in message 
news:HOmdncXdrJ58CKvXnZ2dnUVZ8oednZ2d@giganews.com...
> In article , nicks40@gmail.com
> (Nick Russell) wrote:
>
>> The PM declined to hold a general election just now as it would
>> 'cause chaos'.
>>
>> Presumably to hold one in May 2010 would also cause chaos, so has
>> he a way of not holding an election then?
>>
>> I only ask because I want to know
>>
>> TTFN
>
> Only in the sense that the actual latest legal date is June 2010. Chaos or
> no chaos.
>
> -- 
> Cllr. Colin Rosenstiel
> Cambridge                    http://www.rosenstiel.co.uk/
> Cambridge Liberal Democrats: http://www.cambridgelibdems.org.uk/
date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:44:24 +0100   author:   Nick Russell

Re: June 2010   
"Nick Russell"  wrote:
> OK, June 2010. What happens if Gordon doesn't go then? Say, an election 'is
> not in the best interests of the country'?

Presumably Parliament could allow an extension via a Bill going
through the Commons and Lords.
--
Henry
date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 11:49:19 -0700 (PDT)   author:   Henry Potts

Re: May 2010   
In article ,
   Nick Russell  wrote:
> The PM declined to hold a general election just now as it would 'cause 
> chaos'.

Excuse-of-the-month...

> Presumably to hold one in May 2010 would also cause chaos, so has he a
> way of not holding an election then?

Yup: the Civil Contingies Act they brought in for that very purpose,
camouflaged as an anti-terror provision (as usual).

The thinking is that Brown and Co will generate so much unrest that there
will be rioting on the streets (a la Tehran) and invoke those emergency
measures as a kind of martial law, suspending elections 9and probably
Parliament) indefinitely.

This has been known for some time: it is not a mere theory.  It was
planned this way.

-- 
John M Ward - see http://www.horsted.john-ward.org.uk
--> In favour of returning all local decisions to local people!
date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 18:55:18 GMT   author:   John M Ward

Re: June 2010   
Nick Russell wrote:

>  wrote in message 
> news:HOmdncXdrJ58CKvXnZ2dnUVZ8oednZ2d@giganews.com...

>> In article , nicks40@gmail.com
>> (Nick Russell) wrote:

>>> The PM declined to hold a general election just now as it would
>>> 'cause chaos'.
>>> Presumably to hold one in May 2010 would also cause chaos, so has
>>> he a way of not holding an election then?
>>> I only ask because I want to know
>>> TTFN

>> Only in the sense that the actual latest legal date is June 2010. Chaos or
>> no chaos.

>> Cllr. Colin Rosenstiel
>> Cambridge                    http://www.rosenstiel.co.uk/
>> Cambridge Liberal Democrats: http://www.cambridgelibdems.org.uk/ 

 > OK, June 2010. What happens if Gordon doesn't go then? Say, an election 'is
 > not in the best interests of the country'?

The HoL used to have the right (and the duty) to get the monarch to dissolve 
the Commons after the requisite period without an election - over the head of 
the Prime Minister.

That may have (been) changed since 1997.
date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:08:32 +0100   author:   JNugent

Re: June 2010   
Henry Potts wrote:
> "Nick Russell"  wrote:
>> OK, June 2010. What happens if Gordon doesn't go then? Say, an election 'is
>> not in the best interests of the country'?
> 
> Presumably Parliament could allow an extension via a Bill going
> through the Commons and Lords.

Not on a simple majority, surely?
date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:09:01 +0100   author:   JNugent

Re: June 2010   
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:09:01 +0100
JNugent  wrote:

> Henry Potts wrote:
> > "Nick Russell"  wrote:
> >> OK, June 2010. What happens if Gordon doesn't go then? Say, an
> >> election 'is not in the best interests of the country'?
> > 
> > Presumably Parliament could allow an extension via a Bill going
> > through the Commons and Lords.
> 
> Not on a simple majority, surely?


Unfortunately yes.  

Though the parliament act does not apply.
-- 
\/ Lyn David Thomas
date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:12:04 +0100   author:   Lyn David Thomas

Re: June 2010   
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 at 11:49:19, Henry Potts 
 wrote in uk.politics.electoral :

>"Nick Russell"  wrote:
>> OK, June 2010. What happens if Gordon doesn't go then? Say, an election 'is
>> not in the best interests of the country'?
>
>Presumably Parliament could allow an extension via a Bill going
>through the Commons and Lords.

The Lords would never allow it, never mind the civil unrest any such 
attempt would engender!
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:01:45 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

Re: May 2010   
On Mon, 15 Jun 2009 at 18:55:18, John M Ward  wrote 
in uk.politics.electoral :

>In article ,
>   Nick Russell  wrote:
>> The PM declined to hold a general election just now as it would 'cause
>> chaos'.
>
>Excuse-of-the-month...
>
>> Presumably to hold one in May 2010 would also cause chaos, so has he a
>> way of not holding an election then?
>
>Yup: the Civil Contingies Act they brought in for that very purpose,
>camouflaged as an anti-terror provision (as usual).
>
>The thinking is that Brown and Co will generate so much unrest that there
>will be rioting on the streets (a la Tehran) and invoke those emergency
>measures as a kind of martial law, suspending elections 9and probably
>Parliament) indefinitely.
>
FFS - this is Britain, not some 3rd world African shithole!
-- 
Paul Hyett, Cheltenham
date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:01:45 GMT   author:   Paul Hyett lid

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