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date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:04:33 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.politics.drugs        back       
Re: Daily Mail: How just one joint could wreck your mental health   
On 2 aug, 17:47, Blah  wrote:
> The Todal wrote:
> > "Blah"  wrote in message
> >news:7dloiqF2cghm2U1@mid.individual.net...
> >> JohnR wrote:
> >>> "Blah"  wrote in message
> >>>news:7dljrmF2apl78U1@mid.individual.net...
> >>>> Svenne wrote:
> >>>>> On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 14:28:09 퍝, Blah  wrote:
>
> >>>>>> Svenne wrote:
> >>>>>>> Yes, all drugs are dangerous in themselves to varying degrees but
> >>>>>>> made
> >>>>>>> many magnitudes more dangerous by prohibition.
> >>>>>>> An old boozer like Blah can spend his days stinking of stale alcohol
> >>>>>>> and unrine and boring everyone around, but him and everyone else
> >>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>> be worse off if alcohol were made illegal. The knackered old fart
> >>>>>>> would even be better off all prohibition were ended and he turned to
> >>>>>>> something less destructive than the bottle.
> >>>>>> You seem to have an obsession with me Svenne, are the voices talking
> >>>>>> to you again?
> >>>>>> What exactly is YOUR problem, were you beaten by an alcoholic father?
> >>>>> It's the shite you write I'm commenting on, Blah. You know, the stuff
> >>>>> you are posting on usenet, or have you forgotten. I think you should
> >>>>> worry more about your own problems and lay off the booze for a while.
>
> >>>>> Svenne
>
> >>>> So, lets sum this up - I point out that an illegal drug is causing
> >>>> mental health problems, and most users are quite happy to gloss over any
> >>>> evidence of a problem.
>
> >>>> And *you* respond with a bitter rant about *my* use of alcohol?
>
> >>>> How does that work then? Fuckwit.
>
> >>>> You definitly want to see someone about your paranoia.
>
> >>> Here's the flaw in your apparent support of prohibition of some drugs> >>> presumably only the ones you don't use I might add.
> >> I have a *particular* vested interest in skunk, since it fried the missus
> >> brains (at least according to me and her shrink).
>
> > Neither you nor your shrink are qualified to say whether cannabis is capable
> > of causing brain damage. Or maybe you didn't mean brain damage. Maybe you
> > meant psychiatric illness. In which case: neither you nor your shrink are
> > qualified to say whether cannabis is capable of causing psychiatric
> > illnesses.
>
> Well, since the Royal College of Psychiatrists seem to believe it, why
> ever not?:
>
> http://www.rcpsych.ac.uk/mentalhealthinfo/problems/alcoholanddrugs/ca...
>
> Depression
>
> A study following 1600 Australian school-children, aged 14 to 15 for
> seven years, found that while children who use cannabis regularly have a
> significantly higher risk of depression, the opposite was not the case -
> children who already suffered from depression were not more likely than
> anyone else to use cannabis. However, adolescents who used cannabis
> daily were five times more likely to develop depression and anxiety in
> later life.
>
> Is there such a thing as ‘cannabis psychosis’?
>
> Recent research in Denmark suggests that yes, there is. It is a
> short-lived psychotic disorder that seems to be brought on by cannabis
> use but which subsides fairly quickly once the individual has stopped
> using it. It's quite unusual though – in the whole of Denmark they found
> only around 100 new cases per year.
>
> However, they also found that:
>
>      * Three quarters had a different psychotic disorder diagnosed
> within the next year.
>      * Nearly half still had a psychotic disorder 3 years later.
>
> Schizophrenia
>
> Three major studies followed large numbers of people over several years,
> and showed that those people who use cannabis have a higher than average
> risk of developing schizophrenia. If you start smoking it before the age
> of 15, you are 4 times more likely to develop a psychotic disorder by
> the time you are 26. They found no evidence of self-medication. It
> seemed that, the more cannabis someone used, the more likely they were
> to develop symptoms.
>
> Well there you go then.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >> And not once have I mention support of prohibition, its it wonderful when
> >> users read what they want from your message.
>
> >> I am firmly pro *"don't let users get away with telling everyone how
> >> wonderful it it"*, when it clearly *isn't*.
>
> > I never hear users telling everyone how "wonderful" skunk is.
>
> > However, those who partake of cannabis seem to find it relaxing and
> > pleasant.  A few seem to be troubled by some of the effects. But if you
> > speak to those who are on antidepressants or antipsychotic medicine and a
> > fairly high proportion will complain that these wonderful drugs, prescribed
> > by their doctors, are fucking up their lives in various unpleasant ways> "They found no evidence of self-medication. It seemed that, the more
> cannabis someone used, the more likely they were to develop symptoms."
>

This is supposed to back up your claim that cannabis fries brains?
What's the equivalent of Korsakoff's syndrom for cannabis?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korsakoff%27s_syndrome
date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 09:04:33 -0700 (PDT)   author:   sobriquet

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